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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates.  Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UN[b]C, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.  [/quote][/b

UVA was built in 1819.  It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it.  So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics.  Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.[/quote]

It’s too bad that [b]UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville[/b]. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need. [/quote]

But they did.  They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based.  They situated research in new developments.  They have acquired a lot of land over time.[/quote]
As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.[/quote]

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students.  UVA has land.  That isn't it.  However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.[/quote]

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their [b]$92000 OOS[/b] cost of attendance. [/quote]

False.  You are thinking of USC, a private in So California[/quote]

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

[b]Non-Virginian:      91662 to 93022
[/quote][/b]

Cute.  No link found to what you quote.  Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences.  https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0[/quote]

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

[b]Virginian	Non-Virginian
Tuition	27,570	66,130
Fees	3,716	4,398
Subtotal	31,286	70,528

Additional Categories	21,134	21,134 to 22,494
Total	52,4[/b]20	91,662 to 93,022
[/quote]

Right.  and you just want to bash.  That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA.  So you cherry-picked.  We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state.  And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools.  I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia.  Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K.  You didn't disclose that in your post.  You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.[/quote]

NP.  PP wasn't cherry picking.  Look at engineering.  public policy, and others at $90K and above.  B[b]ut whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public schoo[/b]l.  Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.  [/quote]

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0.  Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school[/quote]
No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.[/quote]

That is true. UCLA and UCB are much cheaper for OOS.  But they only have 10% seats for OOS kids. nearly impossible to get into. [/quote]

Not much cheaper. Berkeley is almost $80k for standard OOS not including airfare from the east coast[/quote]

That is true. Depending on when and where to fly, the airfare and hotel costs could go up to 10K if you visit California twice a year with family members. Well, there is no free lunch. No exception to sunny California.  [/quote]

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