UVA EA out Friday!

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Anonymous wrote:When people are listing GPA's, is that only the GPA through 11th grade, or is it the projected GPA accounting for senior year?

Probably through 11th since that’s what you use for the application.

If you are referring to the SCHEV statistics, that is what the students and school report to the state after enrollement, so senior year.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates. Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UNC, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.

UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

WM is one of the 6 public Ivies. 1693 —way before UVA

If you are going to post like this, learn your history. UVA was one of the first public ivies - here - not W&M! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy.

W&M gets added in by other comers long after the intitial list was created and published.

Both were included in the original public ivy list.

Ironic that in obnoxiously trying to correct PP you made an error. W&M was on the first list of public ivies.

That's not what PP said. They cited the age of W&M and said it was a public ivy and not UVA. Both were on the original list. W&M's age is irrelevant. If you are going to post, post not irrelevant info and omissions.

Why are people arguing over something that doesn't really exist? And, why are they citing Wikipedia in a higher ed forum? This is the hill y'all want to die on? So many questions.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates. Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UNC, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.

UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

It’s too bad that UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need.

But they did. They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based. They situated research in new developments. They have acquired a lot of land over time.

As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students. UVA has land. That isn't it. However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their $92000 OOS cost of attendance.

False. You are thinking of USC, a private in So California

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

Non-Virginian: 91662 to 93022

Cute. No link found to what you quote. Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

Virginian Non-Virginian
Tuition 27,570 66,130
Fees 3,716 4,398
Subtotal 31,286 70,528

Additional Categories 21,134 21,134 to 22,494
Total 52,420 91,662 to 93,022

Right. and you just want to bash. That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA. So you cherry-picked. We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state. And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools. I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia. Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K. You didn't disclose that in your post. You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.

NP. PP wasn't cherry picking. Look at engineering. public policy, and others at $90K and above. But whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public school. Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0. Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school

No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.

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In!

3.98 / 4.82 1520, regular ECs/sports - DC public

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Anonymous wrote:PSA for new posters - seven pages of complaining before people actually posted results.

My niece was accepted. 4.3W and 1500 SAT. NOVA public.

4.0uw/4.39w; 35 ACT; 5 all AP exams; good ECs. VA resident; private DC HS

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates. Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UNC, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.

UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

It’s too bad that UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need.

But they did. They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based. They situated research in new developments. They have acquired a lot of land over time.

As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students. UVA has land. That isn't it. However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their $92000 OOS cost of attendance.

False. You are thinking of USC, a private in So California

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

Non-Virginian: 91662 to 93022

Cute. No link found to what you quote. Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

Virginian Non-Virginian
Tuition 27,570 66,130
Fees 3,716 4,398
Subtotal 31,286 70,528

Additional Categories 21,134 21,134 to 22,494
Total 52,420 91,662 to 93,022

Right. and you just want to bash. That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA. So you cherry-picked. We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state. And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools. I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia. Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K. You didn't disclose that in your post. You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.

NP. PP wasn't cherry picking. Look at engineering. public policy, and others at $90K and above. But whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public school. Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0. Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school

No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.

That is true. UCLA and UCB are much cheaper for OOS. But they only have 10% seats for OOS kids. nearly impossible to get into.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s too bad that the flagship of a state with 8.75 million people in it only educates 17.6 thousand undergraduates. Only 2/3 of them are Virginians. Citizens should demand that UVA have 82% from instate, like UNC, since the cannot or won’t increase its overall size.

UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

It’s too bad that UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need.

But they did. They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based. They situated research in new developments. They have acquired a lot of land over time.

As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students. UVA has land. That isn't it. However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their $92000 OOS cost of attendance.

False. You are thinking of USC, a private in So California

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

Non-Virginian: 91662 to 93022

Cute. No link found to what you quote. Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

Virginian Non-Virginian
Tuition 27,570 66,130
Fees 3,716 4,398
Subtotal 31,286 70,528

Additional Categories 21,134 21,134 to 22,494
Total 52,420 91,662 to 93,022

Right. and you just want to bash. That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA. So you cherry-picked. We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state. And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools. I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia. Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K. You didn't disclose that in your post. You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.

NP. PP wasn't cherry picking. Look at engineering. public policy, and others at $90K and above. But whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public school. Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0. Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school

No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.

That is true. UCLA and UCB are much cheaper for OOS. But they only have 10% seats for OOS kids. nearly impossible to get into.

UVA cost-wise is really competing with privates, which is why its oos yield is not so good.

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UVA was built in 1819. It is completely landlocked by the town that grew up around it. So it cannot expand further unlike the huge California publics. Nevertheless, there is an entity called the UVA Foundation whose mission it is to buy up real estate when available.

It’s too bad that [b]UVA never developed an additional campus in Charlottesville. Michigan did that many years ago when they realized they needed more land to grow the school since there was a need.

But they did. They have the North Grounds, where Law and Graduate Business relocated and are based. They situated research in new developments. They have acquired a lot of land over time.

As an example, UVa bought the former Cavalier Inn, bulldozed it, and now is building a School of Data Science on that land.

UVA's campus (grounds) is larger than that of UT Austin, which has 2X as many students. UVA has land. That isn't it. However, if UVA was the size of UT Austin, it would 1) have a major detrimental impact on Charlottesville and town/gown relations 2) force UVA to essentially reengineer the campus to add density and 3) lower selectivity and ultimately the reputation.

I heard UVA tends to admit fewer students to keep its selectivity. Well, they need something to justify their $92000 OOS cost of attendance.

False. You are thinking of USC, a private in So California

What are you talking about?

Go to https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0, click on School of Commerce (McIntire),

Non-Virginian: 91662 to 93022

Cute. No link found to what you quote. Right here for this year: $81-83K for OOS College of Arts and Sciences. https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0

Same page as you quoted:

School of Commerce, Third- and Fourth-Year

Virginian Non-Virginian
Tuition 27,570 66,130
Fees 3,716 4,398
Subtotal 31,286 70,528

Additional Categories 21,134 21,134 to 22,494
Total 52,420 91,662 to 93,022

Right. and you just want to bash. That's the ONLY school at UVA that is that expensive at UVA. So you cherry-picked. We were thrilled that our DD went to UVA instate for then only $12,000 a year in-state. And DS went to GMU, also in-state. I thank the Lord every day for Virginia in=state schools. I am grateful for the options we have in Virginia. Yes, OOS is higher, but usually $83K. You didn't disclose that in your post. You went for the most expensive small OOS program. That is an unfair post.

NP. PP wasn't cherry picking. Look at engineering. public policy, and others at $90K and above. But whether it is $80K or 90K, it is very expensive for a public school. Close to $50K for some of those colleges in state is crazy.

At $81-83K for OOS UVA College of ARts & Sciences (the largest UVA college), it is the same or LESS than UCLA and Berkeley!!!!!!!!! https://sfs.virginia.edu/financial-aid-new-applicants/financial-aid-basics/estimated-undergraduate-cost-attendance-2024-0. Stop citing some obscure cite for the tiny commerce school

No, UCLA and Berkeley are cheaper. The only state school remotely as expensive oos as Virginia is Michigan.

That is true. UCLA and UCB are much cheaper for OOS. But they only have 10% seats for OOS kids. nearly impossible to get into.

Not much cheaper. Berkeley is almost $80k for standard OOS not including airfare from the east coast

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Unhooked, non-legacy
Public school Northern VA
1520, 4.0 UW
APs, differential equations
In - College of Engineering

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How do all these kids have a 4.0 UW? I am actually shocked. Not one A- or B+ in 4 years? Are these kids all super geniuses?

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^^^ Yeah I wonder how there have been so many 4.0s at public schools. It’s difficult to fathom. /s

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Son waitlisted for chem engineering.

4.39 wGPA, 1500 SAT (770 math), 8 APs.

He won’t submit mid-years as he had already decided VT was what he wanted, and I put the deposit down for it last month. I think he’s right that VT is the best place for him, but I was selfishly a little excited about the possibility of the drive to uva vs vt.

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Anonymous wrote:How do all these kids have a 4.0 UW? I am actually shocked. Not one A- or B+ in 4 years? Are these kids all super geniuses?

If you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

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Anonymous wrote:^^^ Yeah I wonder how there have been so many 4.0s at public schools. It’s difficult to fathom. /s

At my DC’s school, a few minor errors on the midterm or finals would lead to a lower score (20% of grade) and it could drop your grade from an A to A- so easily. How can these kids, so many, not make ONE single error in 4 years? NONE in 4 years? Is this because schools allow re-testing? Or are midterms not 20% of grades at these schools?