Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state?

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

That might make sense if any preschool or kindergarten teachers were actually talking with kids about those topics. They aren't and weren't, not even in Florida. Just another example of a crisis created to panic those who aren't aware of reality but are gullible enough to believe such crap.

But they are. Not all teachers and not everywhere, but it does happen. The bill was to pre-empt that happening in Florida. If parents want to cover that, then fine. But it didn’t belong in schools for little kids coming from a position of authority/teaching.

One Massachusetts kindergarten teacher gives children lessons on pronouns, including gender-neutral pronouns “they” and “ze,” and introduces them to concepts including trans identities and “gender queer,” he told The Washington Post. He doesn’t fully define the terms because it would be “too much” for kindergarteners.
“We don’t say a penis belongs to a man,” he told The Washington Post. He instead teaches that a penis belongs to a human, and that doctors sometimes get it wrong when determining a newborn baby’s gender.
Kara Haug, a sex-ed teacher in the Sacramento area, claimed she didn’t bring up gender identity in her classes but would simply answer students’ questions when they arose, she told The Washington Post. When one student asked her if she could stop her period if she felt like a boy, for example, she explained how hormones work.
Several states require that school curricula include LGBT topics, and multiple curriculum plans addressing transgender and gender ideology have come into use in schools, according to The Washington Post.
One of these lessons, titled “Pink, Blue and Purple,” instructs teachers to ask first graders how they know what gender they are and then explain that gender identity is a feeling and is not based on one’s body parts. It was developed by Advocates for Youth, a youth-oriented sexual health group.

Good for those teachers. I am so happy to hear we are familiarizing our youngest children with these concepts so they are accepting and inclusive when they get older. It’s useful antidote to the indoctrination some of them receive on Sundays in buildings where they are taught about a man from 2,000 years ago being a zombie.

In other words, you are happy your religious mystical beliefs are being taught instead of another group’s religious mystical beliefs.

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Anonymous wrote:For as many of you who loathe DeSantis, there are two more who love him.

Apparently not in Iowa. But ok.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

This is the college forum. Quit off tracking. And no, I do not support Don’t Say Gay, when the students discussing homosexuality are legally adults.

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Anonymous wrote:For as many of you who loathe DeSantis, there are two more who love him.

Yep. They’ll never get it tho. They think they’re so enlightened and everyone else sucks. Too bad they’re in the minority!

Fact free assertion. As MAGA tends to be. Please cite the 2 out of 3 love him. Maybe in Florida. IDK. Or care. Nationally, his approval rating is 30.8%. Actual, not alternative fact.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/ron-desantis/

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are worried about abortions should get your daughters on birth control.

Tell me you don’t understand women’s health without telling me you don’t understand women’s health.

Misogyny is one of many reasons why normal people avoid FL.

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Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

Maybe PP and I know the same people, but this describes exactly what I'm seeing among our DMV friends. Southern schools, yes, but not in Florida.

Also hearing of reluctance by girls to apply to schools in states with draconian abortion policies.

What high school girls take abortion policy into account when they’re applying to college? If it’s that much in the fore front of their mind, teach them about birth control. Further, these out of staters would just come home if they needed an abortion. So, it’s mostly just political. People in this area look down upon Florida and these are the people who come up with these silly reasons why not to go to college in Florida - as if they were even considering it in the first place.

You know that birth control is not foolproof, right? For me, I would not want to give my money to a state that doesn't care about my DD's health.

I also look down on FL because the weather is awful, IMO. The humidity and mosquitos. Awful. And it's not just in the summer.

-dp

Now you’re criticizing Florida “the Sunshine State” for weather? LOL Never stop DCUM

no, I've always felt that way.

-former Californian

What does your weather preference have to do with anything?

my kids feel the same way about the weather.

Thank you for adding this completely irrelevant and obvious information on page 10. Really adds to the discussion!

"Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state? " -- my kids are avoiding the state, in part due to the weather.

+1

My kids want to avoid living in a swamp with a bunch of MAGA idiots. DC is bad enough.

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Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

Maybe PP and I know the same people, but this describes exactly what I'm seeing among our DMV friends. Southern schools, yes, but not in Florida.

Also hearing of reluctance by girls to apply to schools in states with draconian abortion policies.

What high school girls take abortion policy into account when they’re applying to college? If it’s that much in the fore front of their mind, teach them about birth control. Further, these out of staters would just come home if they needed an abortion. So, it’s mostly just political. People in this area look down upon Florida and these are the people who come up with these silly reasons why not to go to college in Florida - as if they were even considering it in the first place.

You know that birth control is not foolproof, right? For me, I would not want to give my money to a state that doesn't care about my DD's health.

I also look down on FL because the weather is awful, IMO. The humidity and mosquitos. Awful. And it's not just in the summer.

-dp

Now you’re criticizing Florida “the Sunshine State” for weather? LOL Never stop DCUM

no, I've always felt that way.

-former Californian

What does your weather preference have to do with anything?

my kids feel the same way about the weather.

Thank you for adding this completely irrelevant and obvious information on page 10. Really adds to the discussion!

"Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state? " -- my kids are avoiding the state, in part due to the weather.

The weather in Florida has been relatively stable for many years. It’s not had any influence on changing admissions the past couple years or any tie to being liberal or not. Completely irrelevant.

Are you a climate change denier?

Not at all but Florida has been humid for a long time, wouldn’t you agree? UF is known as “the swamp”. This didn’t happen in the last couple of years.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

This is the college forum. Quit off tracking. And no, I do not support Don’t Say Gay, when the students discussing homosexuality are legally adults.

The focus of his law was young children, not adults, having sexual instruction in school. 3rd grade and below.

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Anonymous wrote:Those of you who are worried about abortions should get your daughters on birth control.

Tell me you don’t understand women’s health without telling me you don’t understand women’s health.

Misogyny is one of many reasons why normal people avoid FL.

Yeah, its population is basically doubled with an influx from the Midwest and the north east. I’d hardly call that people avoiding it. You’ll just make this stuff up. It’s just insane.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t Say Gay is ludicrous.

A Don’t Say Gay law at the college level? Come on.

So you support pre-school and kindergarten teachers talking with their kids about the kids gender identity and sexual orientation? Interestingly, when the actual content of the law is described to people, over 70% approve.

This is the college forum. Quit off tracking. And no, I do not support Don’t Say Gay, when the students discussing homosexuality are legally adults.

The focus of his law was young children, not adults, having sexual instruction in school. 3rd grade and below.

They can’t argue with that. It’s telling thst they feel the need to lie about what the law does.

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UF received 67,000 applications in 2023, an increase over 2022. The acceptance rate was under 30%. The acceptance rate for OOS students was 19%. I think they’re doing fine.

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Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

Florida has a 28% acceptance rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

Florida has a 28% acceptance rate.

It’s a top 30 school nationally and a top 10 of public universities. But you can talk to your blue in the face and these lunatics will never put their feelings aside for facts.

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Anonymous wrote:Never a hard admit. Now easier. Most intelligent kids prefer to go to schools in states where alternative facts are shunned and true science and reason reign.

Florida has a 28% acceptance rate.

It’s a top 30 school nationally and a top 10 of public universities. But you can talk to your blue in the face and these lunatics will never put their feelings aside for facts.

Sigh. Correcting for witnesses.

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Anonymous wrote:The peer group one year behind DD is applying for college now. Between DD’s year and this year, there are several kids I know from moderately liberal families who are attending or are applying to SEC/Southern ACC schools for sun and fun, sports and Greek, good academics, reasonable cost. Alabama and UGA seem very popular, plus GT, NC State and Clemson engineering and CS. (UNC also, but it’s an almost impossible admit). App State in NC is fun without the sun and also popular. Red states (or purple for NC) per se aren’t scaring them away.

But, these families are steering clear of FL state colleges (and would normally have considered U of FL/ Miami a few years ago) because of concerns over what DeSantis did at New College and because he is acively directing policy, eliminating tenure, limiting what can be taught Etc. And faculty are starting to leave U of FL over DeSantis’s policies.

But, the big concern is not only what things look like in 2024, but where U if FL will be 3-5 years from now if DeSantis keeps interfering with the FL State college system or if Matt Gaetz runs for governor. And what the ROI will look like in 5-10 years if he continues to make social and academic policy at U FL and Miami.

These are parents who are pretty savvy about college admissions.

My kids looked at smaller schools. But FL state schools would concern me. My personal opinion is that governors should be more hands off with state colleges and let the Board of Governors do their jobs. State colleges should have stability and make decisions are free from politics and the culture wars as possible. It isn’t good for a college to have big policy changes every 4 years as administrations come and go. Not a Youngkin fan, but I’m very glad he hasn’t pulled a DeSantis with VA state colleges. VA has excellent state colleges and I will begrudgingly give him credit for not fixing what isn’t broken. DeSantis is actively breaking things. Maybe you like the direction he’s going. But if DeSantis can make huge changes on things like majors and classes feared and tenure, so can the next Governor.

Maybe PP and I know the same people, but this describes exactly what I'm seeing among our DMV friends. Southern schools, yes, but not in Florida.

Also hearing of reluctance by girls to apply to schools in states with draconian abortion policies.

What high school girls take abortion policy into account when they’re applying to college? If it’s that much in the fore front of their mind, teach them about birth control. Further, these out of staters would just come home if they needed an abortion. So, it’s mostly just political. People in this area look down upon Florida and these are the people who come up with these silly reasons why not to go to college in Florida - as if they were even considering it in the first place.

You know that birth control is not foolproof, right? For me, I would not want to give my money to a state that doesn't care about my DD's health.

I also look down on FL because the weather is awful, IMO. The humidity and mosquitos. Awful. And it's not just in the summer.

-dp

Now you’re criticizing Florida “the Sunshine State” for weather? LOL Never stop DCUM

no, I've always felt that way.

-former Californian

What does your weather preference have to do with anything?

my kids feel the same way about the weather.

Thank you for adding this completely irrelevant and obvious information on page 10. Really adds to the discussion!

"Are FL admissions easier now bc liberals are avoiding the state? " -- my kids are avoiding the state, in part due to the weather.

The weather in Florida has been relatively stable for many years. It’s not had any influence on changing admissions the past couple years or any tie to being liberal or not. Completely irrelevant.

Are you a climate change denier?

Not at all but Florida has been humid for a long time, wouldn’t you agree? UF is known as “the swamp”. This didn’t happen in the last couple of years.

Hurricanes have gotten stronger in the last couple of years, not to mention that the rate of FL falling into the ocean is increasing.