Arl Dems Caucus Endorsement - School Board - In the Candidates' Words

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

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Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Goldstein's endorsement isn't going to move the needle, but no one knows or cares who Stockton is either. So, it's a wash.

What do you mean? Know one in ACDC knows who he is? I agree with that and they are the most likely voters. But I think any involved APS parent or staff knows who Stockton is and they are also likely voters (staff who live in Arlington, that is). I've already heard from people who were surprised by it. Otherwise I agree with you on ACDC. It's telling that Miranda has lined up alot of supporters who carry weight in ACDC and AC doesn't even seem to have support from Young Dems.

I'm a "very involved" parent/voter and I've never heard of him.

Reid's endorsement may not influence much, but it's more relevant than some random staff's endorsement.

Reid saw the impact of Miranda's group on the community.

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With Reid’s endorsement more parents and others will take Angelo seriously. I’d say he has decent odds, despite his youth, inexperience, and cockiness. Let’s not forget that both FCPS and MCPS have voting student school board members. Angelo can bring a unique perspective to the board.

OK, I really don't get this. He is qualified *JUST* because he is young? I have older teens, doesn't that also give me a unique perspective? Just being young is not a qualification. This is madness. I want a real grown-up for this job please.

And for the record, I was a GREAT 22-yr old. I remember being 22. I was early in my career and doing well, but I was still largely a complete idiot with no perspective on the world and how it worked. He's not even from here and has lived her for a half second. Why is that useful? You could pull any rando off the street if that's all the quals you want.

He's a) young and b) politically active. That's not enough.

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Give me anyone who just graduated from APS then, and still has family and younger siblings here.

Angelo comes off as extremely narrow minded and narrow focused, only drawing from his own school experience which was elsewhere and is irrelevant for APS.

He showed up at our school’s PTA meeting. Not only was that inappropriate but he made my skin crawl. Dude is so phony and acts like he’s channeling joe Biden. Seriously weird guy to interact and speaks in platitudes.

His campaign manager probably recommended the outreach to the PTA’s. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this stupid caucus set up has led to people trying to convince us that Angelo is actually a qualified candidate due to existing on this earth for exactly 22 years. Lol. There’s no other positive angle to take, which is hilarious.

He also hasn’t lead a group of disgruntled, abusive parents. So that’s a plus.

Has he ever actually sat through a school board meeting? Submitted feedback on an action item? Shown any indication that he gives a rip about APS?

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

+1

Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Goldstein's endorsement isn't going to move the needle, but no one knows or cares who Stockton is either. So, it's a wash.

What do you mean? Know one in ACDC knows who he is? I agree with that and they are the most likely voters. But I think any involved APS parent or staff knows who Stockton is and they are also likely voters (staff who live in Arlington, that is). I've already heard from people who were surprised by it. Otherwise I agree with you on ACDC. It's telling that Miranda has lined up alot of supporters who carry weight in ACDC and AC doesn't even seem to have support from Young Dems.

I'm a "very involved" parent/voter and I've never heard of him.

Reid's endorsement may not influence much, but it's more relevant than some random staff's endorsement.

Reid saw the impact of Miranda's group on the community.

+1000

With Reid’s endorsement more parents and others will take Angelo seriously. I’d say he has decent odds, despite his youth, inexperience, and cockiness. Let’s not forget that both FCPS and MCPS have voting student school board members. Angelo can bring a unique perspective to the board.

OK, I really don't get this. He is qualified *JUST* because he is young? I have older teens, doesn't that also give me a unique perspective? Just being young is not a qualification. This is madness. I want a real grown-up for this job please.

And for the record, I was a GREAT 22-yr old. I remember being 22. I was early in my career and doing well, but I was still largely a complete idiot with no perspective on the world and how it worked. He's not even from here and has lived her for a half second. Why is that useful? You could pull any rando off the street if that's all the quals you want.

He's a) young and b) politically active. That's not enough.

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Give me anyone who just graduated from APS then, and still has family and younger siblings here.

Angelo comes off as extremely narrow minded and narrow focused, only drawing from his own school experience which was elsewhere and is irrelevant for APS.

He showed up at our school’s PTA meeting. Not only was that inappropriate but he made my skin crawl. Dude is so phony and acts like he’s channeling joe Biden. Seriously weird guy to interact and speaks in platitudes.

Very weird guy. A 22 year old in a tight suit trying to sound folksy while also throwing out red meat to an audience that is not looking for that. It’s so weird.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

+1

Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Goldstein's endorsement isn't going to move the needle, but no one knows or cares who Stockton is either. So, it's a wash.

What do you mean? Know one in ACDC knows who he is? I agree with that and they are the most likely voters. But I think any involved APS parent or staff knows who Stockton is and they are also likely voters (staff who live in Arlington, that is). I've already heard from people who were surprised by it. Otherwise I agree with you on ACDC. It's telling that Miranda has lined up alot of supporters who carry weight in ACDC and AC doesn't even seem to have support from Young Dems.

I'm a "very involved" parent/voter and I've never heard of him.

Reid's endorsement may not influence much, but it's more relevant than some random staff's endorsement.

Reid saw the impact of Miranda's group on the community.

+1000

With Reid’s endorsement more parents and others will take Angelo seriously. I’d say he has decent odds, despite his youth, inexperience, and cockiness. Let’s not forget that both FCPS and MCPS have voting student school board members. Angelo can bring a unique perspective to the board.

OK, I really don't get this. He is qualified *JUST* because he is young? I have older teens, doesn't that also give me a unique perspective? Just being young is not a qualification. This is madness. I want a real grown-up for this job please.

And for the record, I was a GREAT 22-yr old. I remember being 22. I was early in my career and doing well, but I was still largely a complete idiot with no perspective on the world and how it worked. He's not even from here and has lived her for a half second. Why is that useful? You could pull any rando off the street if that's all the quals you want.

He's a) young and b) politically active. That's not enough.

+1

Give me anyone who just graduated from APS then, and still has family and younger siblings here.

Angelo comes off as extremely narrow minded and narrow focused, only drawing from his own school experience which was elsewhere and is irrelevant for APS.

He showed up at our school’s PTA meeting. Not only was that inappropriate but he made my skin crawl. Dude is so phony and acts like he’s channeling joe Biden. Seriously weird guy to interact and speaks in platitudes.

His campaign manager probably recommended the outreach to the PTA’s. I wouldn’t read too much into it.

Is there any evidence that he has one? Real question.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

+1

Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Goldstein's endorsement isn't going to move the needle, but no one knows or cares who Stockton is either. So, it's a wash.

What do you mean? Know one in ACDC knows who he is? I agree with that and they are the most likely voters. But I think any involved APS parent or staff knows who Stockton is and they are also likely voters (staff who live in Arlington, that is). I've already heard from people who were surprised by it. Otherwise I agree with you on ACDC. It's telling that Miranda has lined up alot of supporters who carry weight in ACDC and AC doesn't even seem to have support from Young Dems.

I'm a "very involved" parent/voter and I've never heard of him.

Reid's endorsement may not influence much, but it's more relevant than some random staff's endorsement.

Reid saw the impact of Miranda's group on the community.

+1000

With Reid’s endorsement more parents and others will take Angelo seriously. I’d say he has decent odds, despite his youth, inexperience, and cockiness. Let’s not forget that both FCPS and MCPS have voting student school board members. Angelo can bring a unique perspective to the board.

A positive, fresh perspective is a plus.

Exactly how fresh is that perspective when the outgoing chair endorses it? And when the ACDC big wigs specifically intervene to keep him from quitting the race? When the powers-that-be do everything they can to keep a failing campaign on life support, I don't think it's because that person is offering a "fresh perspective." It's because they view that person as safe and controllable.

Which isn't to say that Angelo is a puppet. He may be quite sincere. In the words of Noam Chomsky: "I'm sure you believe everything you're saying. But what I'm saying is that if you believed something different you wouldn't be sitting where you're sitting."

If he believes that teachers, staff, and parents should be treated with respect and is capable of constructive conversations, then he gets my vote.

MOVE. ON!

That is exactly what we are trying to do - bring on fresh perspective.

Indeed! Miranda's perspective will be a welcomed relief from the mind-hive that has and is the SB now.
Your little Angelo is not a fresh perspective - he's the same perspective inside a more youthful shell. And I do mean "shell." If he were a little smarter, I'd be convinced he's actually an AI-generated being.

Oh look. The sheet slingers are already slinging sheet.

This is exactly what we don't want anymore. Stop trying to foist your leader on the rest of us.

I have no leader. Never been part of APE, never will be. I get that it's impossible for your narrow mind to understand that people who weren't part of APE can support Miranda as a candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this stupid caucus set up has led to people trying to convince us that Angelo is actually a qualified candidate due to existing on this earth for exactly 22 years. Lol. There’s no other positive angle to take, which is hilarious.

He also hasn’t lead a group of disgruntled, abusive parents. So that’s a plus.

Has he led anything?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this stupid caucus set up has led to people trying to convince us that Angelo is actually a qualified candidate due to existing on this earth for exactly 22 years. Lol. There’s no other positive angle to take, which is hilarious.

He also hasn’t lead a group of disgruntled, abusive parents. So that’s a plus.

Has he led anything?

He rose up from poverty against all the odds. No one I know can say that.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this stupid caucus set up has led to people trying to convince us that Angelo is actually a qualified candidate due to existing on this earth for exactly 22 years. Lol. There’s no other positive angle to take, which is hilarious.

He also hasn’t lead a group of disgruntled, abusive parents. So that’s a plus.

Has he led anything?

He rose up from poverty against all the odds. No one I know can say that.

Then you live in quite a bubble. My DH, his six brothers and sisters can say that, as can my dad whose parents immigrated here with 4th and 6th grade educations to see their son graduate from medical school. And I could go on but I won’t. Good for AC but that hardly qualifies him for SB.

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

+1

Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Are you kidding? No one knows who Stockton is, or cares about a rando from Maryland.

But keep trying to pretend it's a bigger deal than an endorsement from the current board chair. When are you people going to start taking Angelo seriously?

Brian Stockton was with APS. He's not a rando MoCo guy.

The people I know who are most keyed in definitely know who stockton is, had relationships with him and are definitely shocked about this endorsement. Good for her for getting it.

Agreed! I'm glad to see he wasn't really part of the closed-school cabal that Duran spearheaded. This is an important endorsement for Miranda showing that Stockton is in favor of a fresh approach that puts learning excellence back at the center of education and gets us away from all COVID-fear and fluffy diversity and inclusion initiatives.

So Miranda is going to fight against diversity and inclusion initiatives?

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Anonymous wrote:Lol, seriously? Reid Goldstein endorsed the child. Wow.

There are people that see him as the only viable option. And being on a school board in this day and age is a thankless job, so the competition is light.

+1

Based on what I've seen in posted videos, Reid's endorsement isn't going to age well. But the Stockton endorsement is a real coup for MT.

Goldstein's endorsement isn't going to move the needle, but no one knows or cares who Stockton is either. So, it's a wash.

What do you mean? Know one in ACDC knows who he is? I agree with that and they are the most likely voters. But I think any involved APS parent or staff knows who Stockton is and they are also likely voters (staff who live in Arlington, that is). I've already heard from people who were surprised by it. Otherwise I agree with you on ACDC. It's telling that Miranda has lined up alot of supporters who carry weight in ACDC and AC doesn't even seem to have support from Young Dems.

I pay attention to APS, and I don't know the current chief of staff, Brian Stockton or any other former chief of staffs. Do you really think most "involved" parents know? I do not. I bet it's less than 1%. I'm sure I've seen the current one/Brian Stockton at SB meetings, which I watch sometimes, but I never pay any attention to to them and so it's not remotely relevant. I don't care about Reid's endorsement at all as he's totally irrelevant, but I at least know who he is.

That's because "chief of staff" didn't exist before Duran.
If you follow APS closely, you should realize the Duran has greatly expanded and reorganized central office administration staff and he has done so, for the most part, with people who don't do anything. I suspect that's one reason Stockton left - he wasn't doing anything and thought he could be more useful in Montg Co.

You're completely wrong. Murphy had a CoS too. Clearly you don't follow APS as closely as you think you do, or else you would know this basic fact. You just like to bash Duran.

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Anonymous wrote:I love how this stupid caucus set up has led to people trying to convince us that Angelo is actually a qualified candidate due to existing on this earth for exactly 22 years. Lol. There’s no other positive angle to take, which is hilarious.

He also hasn’t lead a group of disgruntled, abusive parents. So that’s a plus.

Has he led anything?

He rose up from poverty against all the odds. No one I know can say that.

Then you live in quite a bubble. My DH, his six brothers and sisters can say that, as can my dad whose parents immigrated here with 4th and 6th grade educations to see their son graduate from medical school. And I could go on but I won’t. Good for AC but that hardly qualifies him for SB.

+1. Also you probably do know people like that and have no idea.

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Angelo has only lived here less than 1 year. He donated to Ebbin in May 2022 and has Washington, DC as his address.

I understand a few people have such a grudge that they'll vote for him as a protest vote, but would you really want to trust this 22 year old with $800M of our tax revenue and our kids' education?

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Anonymous wrote:Angelo has only lived here less than 1 year. He donated to Ebbin in May 2022 and has Washington, DC as his address.

I understand a few people have such a grudge that they'll vote for him as a protest vote, but would you really want to trust this 22 year old with $800M of our tax revenue and our kids' education?

Better than someone who thought that abusing teachers, Duran, and other parents was acceptable behavior.

That shows, at best, poor judgment. At worst…

Either way, not someone who should be on the SB.

So, yes, he is the more trustworthy candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:Angelo has only lived here less than 1 year. He donated to Ebbin in May 2022 and has Washington, DC as his address.

I understand a few people have such a grudge that they'll vote for him as a protest vote, but would you really want to trust this 22 year old with $800M of our tax revenue and our kids' education?

Better than someone who thought that abusing teachers, Duran, and other parents was acceptable behavior.

That shows, at best, poor judgment. At worst…

Either way, not someone who should be on the SB.

So, yes, he is the more trustworthy candidate.

+1. I don't trust Miranda's judgment at all based on her already having shown us her values. Easy choice for me. Apparently for Reid as well. His endorsement of Angelo is very telling. Pay attention -- or don't at your peril.

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Anonymous wrote:Angelo has only lived here less than 1 year. He donated to Ebbin in May 2022 and has Washington, DC as his address.

I understand a few people have such a grudge that they'll vote for him as a protest vote, but would you really want to trust this 22 year old with $800M of our tax revenue and our kids' education?

Better than someone who thought that abusing teachers, Duran, and other parents was acceptable behavior.

That shows, at best, poor judgment. At worst…

Either way, not someone who should be on the SB.

So, yes, he is the more trustworthy candidate.

I know this has been pointed out to you repeatedly, but Miranda Turner never abused and teachers, Duran, or other parents. You're holding onto that grudge as hard as you, but your positions were wrong. We know that now but you just can't let it go.