AP: Biden will not stop override of DC crime laws

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who gets to vote in that referendum?

Looks like the DC Council celebrated prematurely and the Senate still has time to strike down their second bill too. I just can’t with the incompetence and arrogance.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dcs-noncitizen-voting-bill-might-not-become-law-after-all/3289043/

Is there a word for the kind of zealous magic thinking Mendo is displaying? I get that the Council and DC Justice Lab are a hive mind, but there is seemingly no awareness that top of the ticket Ds were not going to tank their own careers for a trifling city council. Do they not grasp how many city councils there are?

That they passed the Cuba resolution instead of pulling the bill before the House vote and after the Congresswoman had been mugged was astonishing and telling. It is as though they are kids larping as a Model UN rather than legislators responsible for a city, budgets, etc. We had a control board not long ago and they seem to be actively courting the conditions that led to it. So cringe.

[Anonymous]

Any other city, and someone would have to resign. In DC we tolerate all sorts of crime and assault on our residents and visitors including the Councilpersons causing the national embarrassment and political peril from DC all the way to the sitting President. By the way these Councilpersons still refuse to utter the word crime. Note how Nadeau speaks “public safety” “violence” but no “crime” outside of the poorly written legislation (legal scholars the authors ain’t).

Resign! Call the new elections for the DC Council.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who gets to vote in that referendum?

Looks like the DC Council celebrated prematurely and the Senate still has time to strike down their second bill too. I just can’t with the incompetence and arrogance.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dcs-noncitizen-voting-bill-might-not-become-law-after-all/3289043/

Is there a word for the kind of zealous magic thinking Mendo is displaying? I get that the Council and DC Justice Lab are a hive mind, but there is seemingly no awareness that top of the ticket Ds were not going to tank their own careers for a trifling city council. Do they not grasp how many city councils there are?

That they passed the Cuba resolution instead of pulling the bill before the House vote and after the Congresswoman had been mugged was astonishing and telling. It is as though they are kids larping as a Model UN rather than legislators responsible for a city, budgets, etc. We had a control board not long ago and they seem to be actively courting the conditions that led to it. So cringe.

+1

I’ve reached the conclusion that the DC Councik must be abolished in favor of a more professional city management.

By the way, should we make any progress to the Statehood, the only way I’d vote for it is if like VT and WY, our representatives only get paid for the sitting time (4 months not a year). Of course that would mean they would be even more open to corruption so is a no go.

Given all that, we are small enough to practice a Swiss-style democracy, put it all to the people. Provided the idiotic law that allow you to bus and house your own constituents is also rejected. Which it think it hopefully will be — what a laughingstock!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any other city, and someone would have to resign. In DC we tolerate all sorts of crime and assault on our residents and visitors including the Councilpersons causing the national embarrassment and political peril from DC all the way to the sitting President. By the way these Councilpersons still refuse to utter the word crime. Note how Nadeau speaks “public safety” “violence” but no “crime” outside of the poorly written legislation (legal scholars the authors ain’t).

Resign! Call the new elections for the DC Council.

Not a huge fan of the DC council but at this point this just makes Shumer look bad. He is cowtowing to the performative republican narrative about the crime bill. At this point DC residents are just being used as pawns for dems to run stupid "we are not soft on crime" ads. The dems lets the republicans set the messaging here- they are ALWAYS on the defense.

[Anonymous]

“Performative” was the dead give away that you do love the current Council.

Chuck is right and isn’t a coward.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

But WE ARE CONFIDENT we can pay $2 BILLION per year for DC Statehood. Mkay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

And the Council only wants to make the bad worse.

I guess we deserve it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

The current penalty for carjacking is 40 years. Under the new guidelines it would be 24 years. Do you really think a carjacker is thinking, oh, I will do more of it after the new law is passed because reasons? And to compare, the new and old DC guidelines are harsher than most GOP districts around the country. So this whole thing is just gaslighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

The current penalty for carjacking is 40 years. Under the new guidelines it would be 24 years. Do you really think a carjacker is thinking, oh, I will do more of it after the new law is passed because reasons? And to compare, the new and old DC guidelines are harsher than most GOP districts around the country. So this whole thing is just gaslighting.

If it's gaslighting, why are they trying to lower the max?

The reason to lower the max is to lower the actual sentences that are pleaded to. This will absolultely increase crime.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

The current penalty for carjacking is 40 years. Under the new guidelines it would be 24 years. Do you really think a carjacker is thinking, oh, I will do more of it after the new law is passed because reasons? And to compare, the new and old DC guidelines are harsher than most GOP districts around the country. So this whole thing is just gaslighting.

It had nothing to do w maximums. For me a max shouldn’t exceed 20 for anything. It’s about no minimums and deliberate flooding of the judicial system
so there’s no incentive nor possibility to ever prosecute convict and lock up anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

This selective data reporting has been dispelled many times.

Murders are up.
Carjackings are up.
Quality of life is down.
Crime is ruining lives in the neighborhoods all over the city.

It’s called Crime. Say its name.

This. Some aspects are down, others are up. Car jacking and murders. And the people committing them are not being prosecuted because they’re underage and the city is soft on crime because essentially the attitude is “we deserve to be flooded with crime because of historical wrongs and incarceration is not fair.”

The current penalty for carjacking is 40 years. Under the new guidelines it would be 24 years. Do you really think a carjacker is thinking, oh, I will do more of it after the new law is passed because reasons? And to compare, the new and old DC guidelines are harsher than most GOP districts around the country. So this whole thing is just gaslighting.

It’s not just gaslighting. And this city, with its existing approach to prosecuting crimes (not great) and already overburdened court system, and even with new funding for staff, would defacto legalize quality of life crimes, as the bill would allow criminals to receive jury trials for misdemeanors. I mean you’ll simply have cases tossed out. So package theft (not ever caught anyway), theft, assault, CVS robberies, all this stuff will just increase without punishment. I am from DC. Are you? You ever tried to get a permit for a house? Ever dealt with DCRA? This city is filled with incompetence. It’s filled with crime. It’s filled with idealistic, urbanist yuppies who think they should just allow themselves to be punched in the face because “that’s what they deserve” for buying a $1M row house in a rough area. It’s a weird place. I hate trump and his acolytes. I don’t like social conservatism, but I also don’t like virtue signaling, weak on crime folks on the city council who propose “alternative” criminal justice solutions like useless violence interruptors and crime bills that lower penalties for violent crime and let criminals out earlier. I wish we had a socially liberal city, but with a strict policy on tackling crime. We can’t just sit back and be thankful for the Fenty’s, who came before and allowed for the development of this city to help increase its quality of life. There are too many weak on crime folks who put being woke above public safety.

[Anonymous]

Agree. I would just add that violence interrupters and similar initiatives are not merely do-gooder things gone useless or bad. They are a major source of funding for a whole bunch of people. Follow that consulting $$$ and a disturbing picture of special interests emerges. We’ll only get more fiascos like the national embarrassment of a crime bill if this continues unchecked