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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Just ask all those people who die at the hands of police.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Just ask all those people who die at the hands of police.

Each death is a tragedy but there are so very few compared to how many calls police respond to. And when you whittle it down to unjustified deaths, it's even smaller.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Unfortunately it isn't true. In fact, the studies have indicated they only make kids less safe.

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What studies? Another study is sayingthe opposite

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Anonymous wrote:What studies? Another study is sayingthe opposite

MCPS never did their study because removing SROs was a done deal.

But the studies that they looked at showed students felt safer with SROs.

https://www.boarddocs.com/mabe/mcpsmd/Board.nsf/files/C2S2RR727C3F/$file/SRO%20Program%20210511.pdf

The study also showed that SROs lead to increase criminal arrests and higher reporting of crimes, which shows that SRO presence does catch more criminal behavior.

It's not like having an SRO leads kids to commit more crimes. More likely, it increases reporting.

Progressive liberals would rather follow the strategy of "if you don't report then the numbers are lower", like how red states were with covid deaths. MCPS doesn't want to report fights, drug use, particularly among certain groups because it would make the numbers for equity look bad.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Unfortunately it isn't true. In fact, the studies have indicated they only make kids less safe.

Kids who behave feel safer; kids who don't behave and do drugs feel less safe.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

They can’t come if the school doesn’t call them and MANY times they do not. The schools don’t want the cases on their record. They like hush hush.

Look at the NJ case. Girl was hit twice with full bottle water and beaten up by 3 girls. Not only was the police not called, but they sent her to the nurse and she went home. It’s clear from the video she could have had a concussion. She has bruises everywhere too.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Unfortunately it isn't true. In fact, the studies have indicated they only make kids less safe.

83% of PG county parents wanted SRO in school and had positive interactions with their kids.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Citation needed.

See SF and Portland.

More locally, neighborhoods here have had a rash of car breakins. What did the neighborhood do? Asked for more police presence.

If there was criminal activity in your neighborhood, what would you do? Would you call the social just warriors to implement Restorative Justice in your neighborhood? Want Elrich and Jawando to defund the police even more?

Your "citation needed" is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Citation needed.

See SF and Portland.

More locally, neighborhoods here have had a rash of car breakins. What did the neighborhood do? Asked for more police presence.

If there was criminal activity in your neighborhood, what would you do? Would you call the social just warriors to implement Restorative Justice in your neighborhood? Want Elrich and Jawando to defund the police even more?

Your "citation needed" is ridiculous.

This is hardly an MCPS issue involving children.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

They can’t come if the school doesn’t call them and MANY times they do not. The schools don’t want the cases on their record. They like hush hush.

Look at the NJ case. Girl was hit twice with full bottle water and beaten up by 3 girls. Not only was the police not called, but they sent her to the nurse and she went home. It’s clear from the video she could have had a concussion. She has bruises everywhere too.

Agree. Most of the time it is the victims of incidents in the school that have to call the police and it is so hard to get information from the school regarding the incident, even for police. And MANY times the victims are the ones that end up leaving the school, not the person who did the assault. Because the school just says, sorry we have to teach them. It's ridiculous.

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From watching the videos, it's clear to me that MoCo needs to ban the wearing of Hoodies in school.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Citation needed.

See SF and Portland.

More locally, neighborhoods here have had a rash of car breakins. What did the neighborhood do? Asked for more police presence.

If there was criminal activity in your neighborhood, what would you do? Would you call the social just warriors to implement Restorative Justice in your neighborhood? Want Elrich and Jawando to defund the police even more?

Your "citation needed" is ridiculous.

This is hardly an MCPS issue involving children.

? the same rule applies. Kids doing drugs and dealing is not a joke. These kids aren't afraid of teachers, security guards or admin. At worst, they'll be forced to go through the BS RJ. That won't stop them.

When there is criminal activity, you call the cops. Heck, even Elrich has admitted that we need more cops in high crime areas.

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Look at neighboring Prince William County Schools evaluating a screening solution that doesn't rely on metal detectors. It's high-volume and doesn't require a ton of personnel to run and maintain it. It's called Evolv: https://wjla.com/news/local/prince-william-co-schools-consider-new-security-screening-system-evolv-technology-community-meetings-gainesville-high-school-freedom-high-school-woodbridge-vernon-bock-manassas-osbourn-alexandria-city-schools-latanya-mcdade#

Why isn't MCPS doing a similar kind of evaluation and assessment with the community?

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

The people of Montgomery County do not want police officers in schools. Voters have made that clear. Our County Exec has made that clear.

The police are not welcome at our schools. How can they enforce drug laws AT schools if they are not allowed to be AT schools?

^ person who mistakenly believes rule of laws is suspended at magical school boundary ... news flash they aren't

Police aren't stationed at your home either but if you commit a crime there they come.

+1 Criminal activity less likely to happen with police presence. Remove police presence, crime goes up. Look at what is happening in those cities where they "defunded the police". If you want to live in a crime infested area, have at it. But I don't want my kids to go to school where there is rampant drug use and violent behavior. My kids feel safer with cops around.

Why does my kids' wants and feelings get disregarded? Because the progressive liberals have taken the stance that "to make things more equitable, you have to apply rules unequally". Also, some PoC kids may feel unsafe with cops around, but do they feel any safer without cops and with violent kids around? Seriously? Wouldn't it make more sense for those kids to get to know cops in a safe place rather than out in the streets? Do progressive liberals not want cops at all in their cities? If not, who's going to come when there are thieves and rapists in your home? Will your kids call the cops if there is an intruder if they are afraid of cops? Progressive liberal' logic makes no sense here. Why are you making those kids more afraid of cops?

Just ask all those people who die at the hands of police.

And, how many lives are saved daily due to police?