Paint Branch High Fights

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Anonymous wrote:Look at neighboring Prince William County Schools evaluating a screening solution that doesn't rely on metal detectors. It's high-volume and doesn't require a ton of personnel to run and maintain it. It's called Evolv: https://wjla.com/news/local/prince-william-co-schools-consider-new-security-screening-system-evolv-technology-community-meetings-gainesville-high-school-freedom-high-school-woodbridge-vernon-bock-manassas-osbourn-alexandria-city-schools-latanya-mcdade#

Why isn't MCPS doing a similar kind of evaluation and assessment with the community?

That looks perfect.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

Some people are under this mistaken impression that schools are magical places where the rule of law is suspended. Society already imposes consequences for both illegal drug use and violence. MCPS has no place dispensing justice.

Not when the kids are not caught. If there is nobody available to enforce the rules, the kids can break them without consequence. Which is exactly what is going on in our schools currently.

Kids can smoke weed (illegally) at school or distribute Percoset at school and know they won't get caught. So, yes, the rule of law is pretty much suspended.

Exactly. And now we have fentanyl.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

Some people are under this mistaken impression that schools are magical places where the rule of law is suspended. Society already imposes consequences for both illegal drug use and violence. MCPS has no place dispensing justice.

Not when the kids are not caught. If there is nobody available to enforce the rules, the kids can break them without consequence. Which is exactly what is going on in our schools currently.

Kids can smoke weed (illegally) at school or distribute Percoset at school and know they won't get caught. So, yes, the rule of law is pretty much suspended.

Exactly. And now we have fentanyl.

Is MCPD not enforcing the laws at our schools?

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Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

Trust me, there are more incidents that are not making the news. A kid just died at a nearby high school this week.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

Trust me, there are more incidents that are not making the news. A kid just died at a nearby high school this week.

Died from what? Another overdose?

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

Trust me, there are more incidents that are not making the news. A kid just died at a nearby high school this week.

Died from what? Another overdose?

Yes. The cause is not being publicized.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

Trust me, there are more incidents that are not making the news. A kid just died at a nearby high school this week.

Died from what? Another overdose?

Yes. The cause is not being publicized.

Whistleblowers like yourself who clearly have inside knowledge should break the code of silence so MCPS can't keep doing this! This is an anonymous forum and you can spread the word here.

Are the parents complicit in keeping this quiet? Ashley Edwards' mom, the Kennedy student who overdosed and died, did not sweep her daughter's death under the rug and MCPS had to hold a press conference to address it.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

The only reason why some incidents make the news is because things spread like wildfire. The two girls in the BCC bathroom would never make the news if some crappy student didn't take a pic of them passed out and spread it everywhere and the mommies all "had to know immediately" what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

Trust me, there are more incidents that are not making the news. A kid just died at a nearby high school this week.

And clearly it wasn't covered up since you know about it

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Anonymous wrote:Alexandria City Public Schools are installing metal detectors: https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/alexandria-school-board-oks-metal-detector-pilot-program/3305166/

Charles County is installing weapons detectors: https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/maryland/charles-co-public-schools-add-ai-weapon-detectors/65-e9285d08-9ad4-4a33-aae5-39633f7d05d5

Vape detectors being installed at Stafford County schools: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/vape-detectors-being-installed-stafford-223505412.html

MCPS, when will you make a move or investment like this in the name of security? As the biggest school district in Maryland, it's a travesty that the school is not doing more than installing latches on bathroom doors in its efforts to improve school safety and security while other districts consider, evaluate and implement new tools and solutions.

MCPS is trying to hide its problems. Not deal with them

Looks like they aren't hiding these issues at all since they're all over the news. Have to wonder why our laws aren't being enforced.

The only reason why some incidents make the news is because things spread like wildfire. The two girls in the BCC bathroom would never make the news if some crappy student didn't take a pic of them passed out and spread it everywhere and the mommies all "had to know immediately" what happened.

I know! Kids keep posting this stuff to TikTok and Instagram. If only MCPD could monitor these things.

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

Some people are under this mistaken impression that schools are magical places where the rule of law is suspended. Society already imposes consequences for both illegal drug use and violence. MCPS has no place dispensing justice.

Not when the kids are not caught. If there is nobody available to enforce the rules, the kids can break them without consequence. Which is exactly what is going on in our schools currently.

Kids can smoke weed (illegally) at school or distribute Percoset at school and know they won't get caught. So, yes, the rule of law is pretty much suspended.

Exactly. And now we have fentanyl.

Is MCPD not enforcing the laws at our schools?

No, Elrich won't let them. SJW MoCo council also doesn't want cops enforcing traffic laws on our roads.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/03/montgomery-co-bill-would-prohibit-police-from-stopping-drivers-for-some-minor-traffic-offenses/

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Anonymous wrote:It is going to take something truly terrible to get MCPS to ban phones. Something involving major lawsuits.

This was the 1st generation that had to grow up with the possibility of kids having cell phones/social media. We've done an abysmal job of managing it. We should have demanded parental features (that kids can't by pass) on all phones so phones could be set to "call only" mode during school hours, at least. The school districts won't champion this, only the phone manufacturers can.

Man, I definitely like that idea. And you're so right, we definitely let them get away with everything and handed these unlocked devices to our kids without a second thought.

Don't need the phone companies. I posted up thread. We need phone pouches.

https://aleteia.org/2022/09/26/the-15-gadget-thats-eliminating-cell-phone-use-at-schools-and-concerts/

Some schools have already started using them.

You guys are completely focused on the wrong thing. That NJ story is horrifying. But, the problem is not phones. The HUGE problem in that case, and in these MCPS fights is that our kids are being ASSAULTED AT SCHOOL. Truly, that is the problem. The poor girl in NJ should never have been beaten up like that IN a school building.

Fights outside of school have gone on since the beginning of time. But the proliferation of fights in school should be a huge issue for all parents. It's not just the kid being beaten up who is in danger. Teachers or staff who try to break up the fight are in danger. Innocent kids who are standing around at their lockers are in danger.

Again, the issues is the violence in schools, not the phones.

Agree and the solution is 0 tolerance for violent behavior.

What does zero tolerance look like? Prison?

Expulsion. If that's not permitted, then they should make a law permitting it.

Expulsion of kids leading to what sort of outcome? More crime on the street? That doesn't help any of us.

What happens outside of school is not schools responsibility, it's not other students responsibility. Students who want to learn at school have the right to feel SAFE at school. At freaking school people!! This should be the safest place for a child to be.

THIS.

The drug use AT school is out of control. MCPS needs to do better for all our kids.

Sounds like a failing of the police department since it's their job to enforce drug laws.

Some people are under this mistaken impression that schools are magical places where the rule of law is suspended. Society already imposes consequences for both illegal drug use and violence. MCPS has no place dispensing justice.

Not when the kids are not caught. If there is nobody available to enforce the rules, the kids can break them without consequence. Which is exactly what is going on in our schools currently.

Kids can smoke weed (illegally) at school or distribute Percoset at school and know they won't get caught. So, yes, the rule of law is pretty much suspended.

Exactly. And now we have fentanyl.

Is MCPD not enforcing the laws at our schools?

No, Elrich won't let them. SJW MoCo council also doesn't want cops enforcing traffic laws on our roads.

https://wtop.com/montgomery-county/2023/03/montgomery-co-bill-would-prohibit-police-from-stopping-drivers-for-some-minor-traffic-offenses/

So you're saying schools are magical zones where laws aren't enforced? If someone hypothetically committed a major felony at MCPS, they can expect to walk? Elrich doesn't have the authority to do anything like this. MCPD is still responsible for enforcing laws throughout the county.