? this has nothing to do with msm news coverage. Can you prove that the vast majority of those shootings apparently not covered by msm were committed with illegally purchased guns? |
They probably can because the definition of school shooting is so broad that a gang related shooting at 2:00 am on a Saturday outside of a school qualifies |
9mm handgun. Shot went through her hand and then into her upper chest. |
They prove it with a link or citation. Don’t just make stuff up to fit your political narrative that the vast majority of school shootings aren’t covered by the media. Prove it. |
The GOP was fine with 20 6 year olds getting shot at Sandy Hook and 19 at Uvalde - I’m sure they’d have been fine with a teacher preemptively shooting a student (as long as the student met, uh, certain factors). |
Has there been any mention of punishment for the parents beyond the anemic statement I read about how they're looking into it?
I realize a 6 y.o. can't be tried but something really needs to be done with the kid. He is dangerous. I do not care what anyone says. Is it true that the teacher was threatened by the student & the school looked the other way? Time to sue the school system. |
Kids say things, even 6 year olds. Treating a threat from a 6 year old the same as a threat from a high school or middle school student is not the solution. Do you have kids? |
Not the previous poster, but the kid brought bullets to school the previous week. That seems like a credible threat to me. Where there are accessible bullets, there is probably an accessible gun. |
NP. Ignoring or downplaying the threat also isn’t a solution. |
Yes, 6 year olds sometimes say things that can be terrifying. No, you don't treat a threat from a 6 year old the same as you would a 16 year old. At the same time, you don't ignore what 6 year olds say. You take them seriously. Kids of any age who threaten a teacher or bring in bullets need a psych eval, a behavior plan, a full time 1:1 aide and their backpacks searched daily. Kids who bring bullets to school have zero place in a gen ed setting. There are therapeutic schools where kids have to pass through metal detectors. Yes, even 5 and 6 year olds have to pass through metal detectors. For good reason. |
That's crazy and not supported by anyone knowledgeable about child development. But a child with bullets in his backpack should result in an immediate call to DCF and a visit home. Kids put things in their backpacks. But kids should not have access to ammunition. Was the mother called about the bullets in the backpack? And she still didn't have the gun locked away safely? There is someone to blame here, but it's not a 6 year old. And I think there's blame to spread around -- not just to the mom but to every gun manufacturer and legislator that resists technological fixes that would make it more difficult for a 6 year old to fire someone's gun. My guess is that there's a lot of things going wrong in this kid's life. He may need a therapeutic school, but the fact that he put something in his backpack that he found in his home is not evidence of that. |
- rage fueled by social media and violent “first person shooter” video games. |
When I was young, we had lots of guns around. Even brought them to school with us, for the daily Varsity rifle team.
Difference is: we did not use them on each other. The so called “availability of guns”is NOT the problem. The problem is the rage and mental illness of kids today (like the teen girls who planned to stab a homeless man to death in Totronto. Then they met, and killed him). |
To your first question; I read a long article of other cases, and yes, the owner of the gun that was used in a shooting where the shooter was a very young minor (several cases of 6 to 10 year olds in the recent years in the US) does usually get prosecuted in some way, but the punishments are usually very lenient, "misdemeanors", little more than a slap on the wrist, considering the outcome of either one other child dead or permanently disabled and the shooter often also damaged for life, especially if the victim was a sibling or a friend. I have seen prison sentences of around 6 months for the adult owners. There was one case in D.C. where the owner left his gun accessible and loaded, and one child shot another (everyone ages 4-9) and he walked callously past the child who was awake, but bleeding out to retrieve the dropped gun and dispose of it (never to be found!), never returned to the child, never called 911. Prior armed offense. He is getting out of jail this Spring after serving 9 months or so - and he is only serving this time because of illegal (repeated) possession, not because of his conduct before and after the shooting! The child in this case survived (permanently severely disabled) due to heroic efforts by EMS and top notch medical care in the nick of time. Lots of problems with the justice system, imo. |