Official US news 2023 thread

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Anonymous wrote:So it came out nicely for two divisions

T25 and T50 make sesnse by looking at the list.

You can still take pride in HYPMS, T10 or T20, but for the practical purpose in general
T25 and T20 is logical

I don't know about making sense. Once you hit 55 list is looney tunes. Florida State, Georgia, and Rutgers ranked higher than AU, GW, Syracuse, Pitt, and VA Tech? Insane. And all those second rate Cal schools in the mid thirties? Should be like in the 50s. Couple that with Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins (this one especially), and Chicago being so high. There is gamesmanship going on for sure. Columbia won't be the only one that gets caught. Employers and Grad schools know the prestigious schools.

totally agree on this - why are the 2nd rate UCs up there??
Maybe bcause they don't have many good shools in the West Coast, they get the benefit of affirmative action?

The uc schools like San Diego and Santa Barbara benefit from having a very qualified pool of both in state and out of state students. They also do well with research money.

SAT scores and accpetance rate doesn't agree with that.

All the UC schools are test blind.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it came out nicely for two divisions

T25 and T50 make sesnse by looking at the list.

You can still take pride in HYPMS, T10 or T20, but for the practical purpose in general
T25 and T20 is logical

I don't know about making sense. Once you hit 55 list is looney tunes. Florida State, Georgia, and Rutgers ranked higher than AU, GW, Syracuse, Pitt, and VA Tech? Insane. And all those second rate Cal schools in the mid thirties? Should be like in the 50s. Couple that with Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins (this one especially), and Chicago being so high. There is gamesmanship going on for sure. Columbia won't be the only one that gets caught. Employers and Grad schools know the prestigious schools.

totally agree on this - why are the 2nd rate UCs up there??
Maybe bcause they don't have many good shools in the West Coast, they get the benefit of affirmative action?

The uc schools like San Diego and Santa Barbara benefit from having a very qualified pool of both in state and out of state students. They also do well with research money.

SAT scores and accpetance rate doesn't agree with that.

All the UC schools are test blind.

Not for the current ranking.
#32 ranked UCSB - SAT 1230-1480, acceptance rate 29%

Much less than some of the lower ranked schools like BU BC NU GT CW W&M Tulane, etc.
Seems severly overranked.

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Anonymous wrote:U of Florida at 29. And Top 5 Public University! Go Gators!

Yes!!!!

Go Gators! I love how all the DC snobs gonna be like “where? Florida!?!?”

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Anonymous wrote:U of Florida at 29. And Top 5 Public University! Go Gators!

Yes!!!!

Go Gators! I love how all the DC snobs gonna be like “where? Florida!?!?”

I dont think I've seen a derogatory word on this thread about UF. Think you're trying to pick a fight when there isn't one.

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SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

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I disagree about ties. They reinforce the idea that a few places one way or the other don't really matter that much.

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Anonymous wrote:SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

SLACs are boring

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Anonymous wrote:SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

SLACs are boring

Not the CTCLs!

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Anonymous wrote:SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

Of course they aren't entirely clear!!! There is a wide swath of colleges that are very similar and ranking within a particular tier of schools is really quite arbitrary and meaningless. And you want those fine gradations to be even finer. Stop focusing on rankings!

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Anonymous wrote:They just came out. The other thread was a guessing game. This is the real one. A few notes.

UVA 25, tied with Michigan and NYU

William & Mary at 42

UMD at 55

VT at 62

VT engineering ranked 16, above UMD’s 22

UVA undergrad business ranked 8

If you're going to touch on MD/ DC / VA schools:

JHU at 7

W&L at 11 ( LAC)

Georgetown at 22

Richmond at 18

Oh, and Georgetown at 22 for three times the price of UVA in state at 25 (and with the 8th ranked B-school)? Settles that argument.

Go Spiders

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Anonymous wrote:SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

SLACs are boring

SLACs rock!

Especially the top 25 or so.

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I still don't get why the service academies are grouped with the liberal arts schools.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo

Neither UVA nor UMich has a downward trend on US News. UVA has been holding very steady and UMich has generally been on an upswing. Idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:And the rise of the state schools? Some are legitimate like cal, UVA, Michigan and the like. But Georgia and Florida State are better than GW in anything other than football? What gives?

Totally disagree. Both Georgia and Florida State ARE better than GW academically.

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Anonymous wrote:SOOOOOO many "ties" in the SLAC category. I think its weird if 11 schools are tied for 30 that the next school is 41. Maybe they should shoot for fewer ties. It just seems to make the rankings not entirely clear.

Sure, make the distances between colleges seem much greater than they actually are so high school kids can be even more misinformed and anxious about admissions. USNWR has been doing this for years, so why not exacerbate the situation even more?

/s