Official US news 2023 thread

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I don't care about the aggregated methodology rankings. Am I missing something bc isn't it some dude on reddit? If anything, it makes more sense to pay attention to the list that prioritizes what matters to your family (Ie. cost is a factor, look at lists about value).

I look at USNWR generally to see where schools fall but a school moving up or down a few spots isn't going to change where my kid applies. Nor is it going to make me love my alma mater more or less or think differently about my experience there.

In fact, my senior was joking that he hoped his school fell a few spots in the rankings so perhaps fewer kids would apply.

+1 I never understand why people get so tied up about small variations in rank which can swing wildly depending on how one weights different factors. There are so many colleges in the country, I figure just being in the top 100 generally = here are some solid colleges. For the most part, you get out of college what you put into it.

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Anonymous wrote:My takeaways from reading the list:

Winners
-- Princeton (always lovely to be #1 by oneself)
-- JHU - all Bloomberg's $$ is paying off for them
-- Wake Forest is higher than I expected (plus having a great football season). Feels "hot"
-- Rice and Wash U above Cornell, Columbia and Notre Dame

Losers
-- Columbia, but they made their bed...
-- UNC and UVA downward trend, upward trend Michigan and Florida (even though still ranked lower than UNC)
-- Expected UT Austin to be higher
-- Tufts on a downward trajectory

Everything else kind of washed with previous years, imo

+1

Good high level take on this.

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Ouch, Temple went from #103 to #121. Kid seriously considering. She loved it and will probably go there. They had a ton of spirit; best tour yet. And not gonna lie, we like the Amtrak convenience.

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Anonymous wrote:looks like miami of ohio is out of the T100s again (#105)

Wasn’t that school a “thing” in 1989?

Maybe but your "thing" is obv being a douche. And that stat is current.

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Anonymous wrote:They just came out. The other thread was a guessing game. This is the real one. A few notes.

UVA 25, tied with Michigan and NYU

William & Mary at 42

UMD at 55

VT at 62

VT engineering ranked 16, above UMD’s 22

UVA undergrad business ranked 8

If you're going to touch on MD/ DC / VA schools:

JHU at 7

W&L at 11 ( LAC)

Georgetown at 22

Richmond at 18

Oh, and Georgetown at 22 for three times the price of UVA in state at 25 (and with the 8th ranked B-school)? Settles that argument.

Go Spiders!

Nice college.

Richmond is 18 in national liberal arts colleges, not on the national universities list that Georgetown and JHU are one. You are comparing apples to oranges.

Nope.

Response was to referencing "local" DC- VA- MD schools on both the National AND Liberal Arts rankings.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I don't care about the aggregated methodology rankings. Am I missing something bc isn't it some dude on reddit? If anything, it makes more sense to pay attention to the list that prioritizes what matters to your family (Ie. cost is a factor, look at lists about value).

I look at USNWR generally to see where schools fall but a school moving up or down a few spots isn't going to change where my kid applies. Nor is it going to make me love my alma mater more or less or think differently about my experience there.

In fact, my senior was joking that he hoped his school fell a few spots in the rankings so perhaps fewer kids would apply.

"I look at USNWR generally to see where schools fall"
Yes most people do

"In fact, my senior was joking that he hoped his school fell a few spots in the rankings so perhaps fewer kids would apply.
Yes buy the dip

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Anonymous wrote:They just came out. The other thread was a guessing game. This is the real one. A few notes.

UVA 25, tied with Michigan and NYU

William & Mary at 42

UMD at 55

VT at 62

VT engineering ranked 16, above UMD’s 22

UVA undergrad business ranked 8

If you're going to touch on MD/ DC / VA schools:

JHU at 7

W&L at 11 ( LAC)

Georgetown at 22

Richmond at 18

Oh, and Georgetown at 22 for three times the price of UVA in state at 25 (and with the 8th ranked B-school)? Settles that argument.

Richmond is not ranked above Georgetown. Georgetown is in the National university rankings and Richmond is in the liberal arts rankings.

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where was Northeastern last year? Am I correct in thinking they fell.

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Anonymous wrote:So it came out nicely for two divisions

T25 and T50 make sesnse by looking at the list.

You can still take pride in HYPMS, T10 or T20, but for the practical purpose in general
T25 and T20 is logical

I don't know about making sense. Once you hit 55 list is looney tunes. Florida State, Georgia, and Rutgers ranked higher than AU, GW, Syracuse, Pitt, and VA Tech? Insane. And all those second rate Cal schools in the mid thirties? Should be like in the 50s. Couple that with Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins (this one especially), and Chicago being so high. There is gamesmanship going on for sure. Columbia won't be the only one that gets caught. Employers and Grad schools know the prestigious schools.

totally agree on this - why are the 2nd rate UCs up there??
Maybe bcause they don't have many good shools in the West Coast, they get the benefit of affirmative action?

The uc schools like San Diego and Santa Barbara benefit from having a very qualified pool of both in state and out of state students. They also do well with research money.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally, I don't care about the aggregated methodology rankings. Am I missing something bc isn't it some dude on reddit? If anything, it makes more sense to pay attention to the list that prioritizes what matters to your family (Ie. cost is a factor, look at lists about value).

I look at USNWR generally to see where schools fall but a school moving up or down a few spots isn't going to change where my kid applies. Nor is it going to make me love my alma mater more or less or think differently about my experience there.

In fact, my senior was joking that he hoped his school fell a few spots in the rankings so perhaps fewer kids would apply.

+1 I never understand why people get so tied up about small variations in rank which can swing wildly depending on how one weights different factors. There are so many colleges in the country, I figure just being in the top 100 generally = here are some solid colleges. For the most part, you get out of college what you put into it.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:So it came out nicely for two divisions

T25 and T50 make sesnse by looking at the list.

You can still take pride in HYPMS, T10 or T20, but for the practical purpose in general
T25 and T20 is logical

I don't know about making sense. Once you hit 55 list is looney tunes. Florida State, Georgia, and Rutgers ranked higher than AU, GW, Syracuse, Pitt, and VA Tech? Insane. And all those second rate Cal schools in the mid thirties? Should be like in the 50s. Couple that with Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins (this one especially), and Chicago being so high. There is gamesmanship going on for sure. Columbia won't be the only one that gets caught. Employers and Grad schools know the prestigious schools.

totally agree on this - why are the 2nd rate UCs up there??
Maybe bcause they don't have many good shools in the West Coast, they get the benefit of affirmative action?

The uc schools like San Diego and Santa Barbara benefit from having a very qualified pool of both in state and out of state students. They also do well with research money.

SAT scores and accpetance rate doesn't agree with that.

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Anonymous wrote:JMU debuts as a national university at 151. Go Dukes!

Below GMU and well below other school’s first ranking when making the same transition.

I’ve always thought JMU is better than GMU. Maybe I’m too old!

GMU is on a growth tear and climbing fast. It now has five campuses and one of the best cyber security majors in the US. Also, computer science, engineering and econ are well-known.

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Anonymous wrote:where was Northeastern last year? Am I correct in thinking they fell.

It was #49 last year pretty underranked. So actually moved up 5 steps.

Here's last a few years
42 47 39 40 44 40 49 49 avg: 43.75

So #44 is about the usual place.
I can see in the mid 30's within the ext decade.

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U.S. NEWS & WORLD REPORT TOP HBCU's
1. Spelman College
2. Howard University
3. Tuskegee University
4. Morehouse College
5. Xavier University of Louisiana
6. Hampton University
7. Florida A&M University
8. Delaware State University
9. Claflin University
10.North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So it came out nicely for two divisions

T25 and T50 make sesnse by looking at the list.

You can still take pride in HYPMS, T10 or T20, but for the practical purpose in general
T25 and T20 is logical

I don't know about making sense. Once you hit 55 list is looney tunes. Florida State, Georgia, and Rutgers ranked higher than AU, GW, Syracuse, Pitt, and VA Tech? Insane. And all those second rate Cal schools in the mid thirties? Should be like in the 50s. Couple that with Duke, Northwestern, Hopkins (this one especially), and Chicago being so high. There is gamesmanship going on for sure. Columbia won't be the only one that gets caught. Employers and Grad schools know the prestigious schools.

Here, the list of where Employers and Grad School like to get their talent: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1081806.page