I didn't grow up with my birth family because of the Baptists

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Anonymous wrote:how did you get your mom’s letters?

op? who gave you your mom’s letters?

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I did one of those popular DNA tests, and matched with people, who were like, "Who on Earth are you and how I am I related to you??" I was a big surprise. DNA tests are kind of ranked by how much DNA you share, and it was clear I was no distant relative. They shared the news among the cousins and and an aunt. Word got to the person who helped my mom and loaned her the money for the unwed mother's prison, I mean home.

That's where I got the letters. The person -- I am lucky she is still alive -- always wondered if I'd come looking, especially once she saw all the DNA testing services in the news.

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Anonymous wrote:I had one of my children fostered for a time. If I became pregnant then, I planned to give the baby up for adoption. I was unable to care for another person, and was too mentally ill to even trust myself with another child.

I am doing much better now, but no one would have been forcing me. I would have been the one insisting on it. My last child was conceived with an IUD in place, and I was terrified it might happen again.

It's true that sometimes mothers are forced to give up children, but sometimes a mother will choose to do this as well. I feel it would have been a valid choice. At this point, I would be able to take care of another child, but I would never feel comfortable with abortion, personally. I would rather give up a child.

I feel that some posters in this thread are the same people who were horrified when my child was fostered. They told me I was abandoning my child. They did not know I was suicidal and knew deeply that this has to happen for us to have any chance at a future.

How is your story relevant to this post? The OPs birth mother was not mentally ill. Did religious beliefs affect your choice?

I think it is extremely relevant. There are many reasons a woman may choose adoption. Just because you don't agree with that choice doesn't give you the right to berate someone for it.

Yes. I am not proud of what I did. But I feel it was the right thing to do at the time. It gave me time to recover.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were adopted, you grew up with a family, no? I think you need therapy to deal with your immature anger. Your fantasy will not result in a revamp of the culture, you know that right?

I did nothing wrong. I WAS wronged.

Why do you defend these idiots?

I grew up without my siblings and cousins, aunts and uncles.

You were not wronged. In fact you were helped. You grew up with what you grew up with. Nothing was taken from you.

You need to get over this victim mentality. You live the life you are dealt. Deal with it.

This is not OP, but I gotta ask you this.. how did you come to the conclusion that nothing was taken from her?

Her MOTHER was taken from her. Her MOTHER. And this child was taken from the MOTHER.

Are you the beagle poster, you know, the one supporting the Catholic mom who kept having kids but could afford them so she gave a bunch away, like a dog? And, somehow that was just fine? Are you that poster? Good Lord.

NP. I agree that the PP above you and the beagle poster are horrifying. They speak of parent-child relationships as if the child was a puppy who was rescued. It is abjectly horrifying.

And there are several here, but one who is rather relentless. You hit it on the nail regarding the total lack of understanding regarding adoption.

But it's so entertaining disparaging them -- thinking - hoping even - that they are listening in. It's almost like being back in junior high.

We already know you’re a troll.

+1

Troll

Details don’t make sense, then tying made up story to current Roe vs Wade drama.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

I don’t know if OP is a troll, but there have been a string of recent threads along the lines of “the church abused me.” And moderation in this forum is practically non-existent. It’s hard not to wonder whether this is the “Christians answer me this” poster, or another bigot type, with a new line of attack.

meaning the moderator doesn't automatically defend Christian ideology. Disagreements about religion are not automatically from bigots with a line of attack. People have been disagreeing about religion for eons. That's why there are so many religions and so many sects within the same religion.

No, the moderator has said he rarely visits this forum. And lots of us don’t want to go running to him over every little thing.

Are you the poster who keeps claiming that all atheists do here is gently challenge Christianity (always Christianity)? Because that’s BS and you know it, some of you are on the warpath 24/7 and others are trolls.

In other words, pp is acquainted with the moderator and has gone running to him to no avail.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were adopted, you grew up with a family, no? I think you need therapy to deal with your immature anger. Your fantasy will not result in a revamp of the culture, you know that right?

I did nothing wrong. I WAS wronged.

Why do you defend these idiots?

I grew up without my siblings and cousins, aunts and uncles.

You were not wronged. In fact you were helped. You grew up with what you grew up with. Nothing was taken from you.

You need to get over this victim mentality. You live the life you are dealt. Deal with it.

This is not OP, but I gotta ask you this.. how did you come to the conclusion that nothing was taken from her?

Her MOTHER was taken from her. Her MOTHER. And this child was taken from the MOTHER.

Are you the beagle poster, you know, the one supporting the Catholic mom who kept having kids but could afford them so she gave a bunch away, like a dog? And, somehow that was just fine? Are you that poster? Good Lord.

NP. I agree that the PP above you and the beagle poster are horrifying. They speak of parent-child relationships as if the child was a puppy who was rescued. It is abjectly horrifying.

And there are several here, but one who is rather relentless. You hit it on the nail regarding the total lack of understanding regarding adoption.

But it's so entertaining disparaging them -- thinking - hoping even - that they are listening in. It's almost like being back in junior high.

We already know you’re a troll.

+1

Troll

Details don’t make sense, then tying made up story to current Roe vs Wade drama.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

I don’t know if OP is a troll, but there have been a string of recent threads along the lines of “the church abused me.” And moderation in this forum is practically non-existent. It’s hard not to wonder whether this is the “Christians answer me this” poster, or another bigot type, with a new line of attack.

meaning the moderator doesn't automatically defend Christian ideology. Disagreements about religion are not automatically from bigots with a line of attack. People have been disagreeing about religion for eons. That's why there are so many religions and so many sects within the same religion.

No, the moderator has said he rarely visits this forum. And lots of us don’t want to go running to him over every little thing.

Are you the poster who keeps claiming that all atheists do here is gently challenge Christianity (always Christianity)? Because that’s BS and you know it, some of you are on the warpath 24/7 and others are trolls.

In other words, pp is acquainted with the moderator and has gone running to him to no avail.

You’re sad to be obsessing about this sort of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were adopted, you grew up with a family, no? I think you need therapy to deal with your immature anger. Your fantasy will not result in a revamp of the culture, you know that right?

I did nothing wrong. I WAS wronged.

Why do you defend these idiots?

I grew up without my siblings and cousins, aunts and uncles.

You were not wronged. In fact you were helped. You grew up with what you grew up with. Nothing was taken from you.

You need to get over this victim mentality. You live the life you are dealt. Deal with it.

This is not OP, but I gotta ask you this.. how did you come to the conclusion that nothing was taken from her?

Her MOTHER was taken from her. Her MOTHER. And this child was taken from the MOTHER.

Are you the beagle poster, you know, the one supporting the Catholic mom who kept having kids but could afford them so she gave a bunch away, like a dog? And, somehow that was just fine? Are you that poster? Good Lord.

NP. I agree that the PP above you and the beagle poster are horrifying. They speak of parent-child relationships as if the child was a puppy who was rescued. It is abjectly horrifying.

And there are several here, but one who is rather relentless. You hit it on the nail regarding the total lack of understanding regarding adoption.

But it's so entertaining disparaging them -- thinking - hoping even - that they are listening in. It's almost like being back in junior high.

We already know you’re a troll.

+1

Troll

Details don’t make sense, then tying made up story to current Roe vs Wade drama.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

I don’t know if OP is a troll, but there have been a string of recent threads along the lines of “the church abused me.” And moderation in this forum is practically non-existent. It’s hard not to wonder whether this is the “Christians answer me this” poster, or another bigot type, with a new line of attack.

meaning the moderator doesn't automatically defend Christian ideology. Disagreements about religion are not automatically from bigots with a line of attack. People have been disagreeing about religion for eons. That's why there are so many religions and so many sects within the same religion.

No, the moderator has said he rarely visits this forum. And lots of us don’t want to go running to him over every little thing.

Are you the poster who keeps claiming that all atheists do here is gently challenge Christianity (always Christianity)? Because that’s BS and you know it, some of you are on the warpath 24/7 and others are trolls.

In other words, pp is acquainted with the moderator and has gone running to him to no avail.

You’re sad to be obsessing about this sort of thing.

no need to obsess -- it's perfectly obvious.

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Anonymous wrote:If you were adopted, you grew up with a family, no? I think you need therapy to deal with your immature anger. Your fantasy will not result in a revamp of the culture, you know that right?

I did nothing wrong. I WAS wronged.

Why do you defend these idiots?

I grew up without my siblings and cousins, aunts and uncles.

You were not wronged. In fact you were helped. You grew up with what you grew up with. Nothing was taken from you.

You need to get over this victim mentality. You live the life you are dealt. Deal with it.

This is not OP, but I gotta ask you this.. how did you come to the conclusion that nothing was taken from her?

Her MOTHER was taken from her. Her MOTHER. And this child was taken from the MOTHER.

Are you the beagle poster, you know, the one supporting the Catholic mom who kept having kids but could afford them so she gave a bunch away, like a dog? And, somehow that was just fine? Are you that poster? Good Lord.

NP. I agree that the PP above you and the beagle poster are horrifying. They speak of parent-child relationships as if the child was a puppy who was rescued. It is abjectly horrifying.

And there are several here, but one who is rather relentless. You hit it on the nail regarding the total lack of understanding regarding adoption.

But it's so entertaining disparaging them -- thinking - hoping even - that they are listening in. It's almost like being back in junior high.

We already know you’re a troll.

+1

Troll

Details don’t make sense, then tying made up story to current Roe vs Wade drama.

Some people have too much time on their hands.

I don’t know if OP is a troll, but there have been a string of recent threads along the lines of “the church abused me.” And moderation in this forum is practically non-existent. It’s hard not to wonder whether this is the “Christians answer me this” poster, or another bigot type, with a new line of attack.

meaning the moderator doesn't automatically defend Christian ideology. Disagreements about religion are not automatically from bigots with a line of attack. People have been disagreeing about religion for eons. That's why there are so many religions and so many sects within the same religion.

No, the moderator has said he rarely visits this forum. And lots of us don’t want to go running to him over every little thing.

Are you the poster who keeps claiming that all atheists do here is gently challenge Christianity (always Christianity)? Because that’s BS and you know it, some of you are on the warpath 24/7 and others are trolls.

In other words, pp is acquainted with the moderator and has gone running to him to no avail.

You’re sad to be obsessing about this sort of thing.

no need to obsess -- it's perfectly obvious.

Bye. We have better things to do. You apparently don’t.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:how did you get your mom’s letters?

op? who gave you your mom’s letters?

Already answered.

I don’t see it?

One more time:

I did one of those popular DNA tests, and matched with people, who were like, "Who on Earth are you and how I am I related to you??" I was a big surprise. DNA tests are kind of ranked by how much DNA you share, and it was clear I was no distant relative. They shared the news among the cousins and and an aunt. Word got to the person who helped my mom and loaned her the money for the unwed mother's prison, I mean home.

That's where I got the letters. The person -- I am lucky she is still alive -- always wondered if I'd come looking, especially once she saw all the DNA testing services in the news.

fascinating!