Purdue President’s Op-Ed

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What an a$$.


Stop it.
Anonymous
Write to the Washington Post about your displeasure with the opinion:

Publisher + CEO
Frederick "Fred" Ryan
Frederick.Ryan@washpost.com
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What an a$$.


Stop it.


DP. Why? It’s true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was shared in a post about crazy moms on college parents Facebook page making outlandish requests of the college. The page is highly left leaning and none of the respondents are against the tone of the message at all. They took the context for what it represents. This is a nothing burger and certainly zero bad intentions.


People engaging in a Facebook post about "crazy moms" liked this article? Shocking.



Not a FB post but a forum of pretty left leaning parentS. Daniel’s was spot on!! +1
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I know one who turned down an endowed chair which would have offered a higher income in a lower COL area because she got this vibe from there.


-100

Yeah sure you do!


Yes, I do. They have tried to a do a lot of attracting female faculty from other institutions. I don't know how successful they are broadly, but they weren't with her. Her case was about 4 or 5 years ago.


And another -100.

For everyone all upset over Daniels generalizing the minority of moms in his op-Ed, here you go generalizing based on 1 woman you allegedly know. Thanks for making his point.

Basic logic fail. PP said "I know one who turned down an endowed chair" She didn't offer over broad generalizations based on that. And certainly not as a Mother's Day or teacher appreciation tribute. Try again, you're 0 for 2. (or -200 as you say)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: I know one who turned down an endowed chair which would have offered a higher income in a lower COL area because she got this vibe from there.


-100

Yeah sure you do!


Yes, I do. They have tried to a do a lot of attracting female faculty from other institutions. I don't know how successful they are broadly, but they weren't with her. Her case was about 4 or 5 years ago.


And another -100.

For everyone all upset over Daniels generalizing the minority of moms in his op-Ed, here you go generalizing based on 1 woman you allegedly know. Thanks for making his point.

Basic logic fail. PP said "I know one who turned down an endowed chair" She didn't offer over broad generalizations based on that. And certainly not as a Mother's Day or teacher appreciation tribute. Try again, you're 0 for 2. (or -200 as you say)


You are, of course, correct. But I doubt that PP is bright enough to understand the logic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Seems like a lot of you are taking this op-Ed personally! He’s not wrong, although I do take issue with the timing and singling out moms - because there have to be a few examples of dads doing this too even if it’s not as frequent. It could’ve been more balanced.

The point is that we are doing our kids a huge disservice by not stepping back and encouraging independence.


The editorial is a strong indicator that Purdue’s administrators are sexist. I would not want to send a smart girl there, based on this.


Lol, ok. Read into it whatever you want. And don’t send your DD there based on an op-Ed written by one person. But does he have a valid point or not? You can agree with the message even if you take issue with the delivery.

One person? The president and former governor of the state, writing in the Washington Post? No one is in a better position to speak for the school?
Just sit back and enjoy.


I am very familiar with who Mitch Daniels is, probably more so than most people on here. I agree the article is tone deaf and unfairly singled out moms. The timing is atrocious. There are much better ways to make the point that parents of college students need to let go. But he’s right in that point. You know he is. That’s why you’re ignoring the message and making sweeping generalizations about the import of this on the university.


For better or worse, what the President says (about the parents at Purdue in an editorial he chose to write and have published in the WaPo vs privately at a cocktail party) reflects on the University. And he represents a university best known for engineering, a field where women are seriously under-represented. A sexist President does nothing to make parents feel comfortable send their daughters there in to a department with mostly male students and professors.

The fish rots from the head.


Yup. Fish rots from the head indeed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This was shared in a post about crazy moms on college parents Facebook page making outlandish requests of the college. The page is highly left leaning and none of the respondents are against the tone of the message at all. They took the context for what it represents. This is a nothing burger and certainly zero bad intentions.


People engaging in a Facebook post about "crazy moms" liked this article? Shocking.



Not a FB post but a forum of pretty left leaning parentS. Daniel’s was spot on!! +1


So you personally have seen statistics about mother's involvement that shows his examples reflect something common about mothers--common enough that he should be calling out mothers about this? You personally act, or know a lot of mothers who act that way (not read commentaries, seen on social media, heard people griping etc. but actually know ) that tells you his view is "spot on"? A whole lot of people talk about the issue of helicopter moms and then go on about "this one mom" as if she then reflects this mothering problem as a whole.
This has nothing to do with left or right--it has to do with sloppy, sexist, generalizations.
Anonymous
The pps who rush to chime in SPOT ON!, sound so ignorant and are clueless that no one is defending the extreme examples he cites. Everything else about the piece is total rubbish. But all that "other" went over their heads.

Anonymous
"Like the one who insisted, without ever providing any documentation, that her child was allergic to all nonorganic food."

Funny, I don't recall Mitch writing an op-ed about the mother of the "QAnon Shaman" insisting that he could only eat organic food in the DC jail after being arrested for participating in the January 6th attack. If he wanted to complain about overbearing moms maybe that would have been the better time to do it instead of Mother's Day weekend. Sure, there are some overbearing moms out there that can't seem to help themselves, but the vast majority aren't calling or sending emails to college presidents.
Anonymous
My mom didn't know my major in college...I didn't have texting to alert her to my daily travails but I called her on the hall phone maybe once a week... my cafeteria food sucked, my dorm sucked, some professors sucked, but I did just fine. I follow(ed) my four kids college facebook groups and see the moms'...all moms, no dads.. posts, and I am sometimes tempted, but always decline, to chime in, on some grievence...and am so happy I resisted. The only thing I will say is that one mom called out a carbon monoxide detection her kids monitor found that identified a real issue...that, I do agree with. But, most things, as the kid, I would be mortified if my parent stepped in.
Anonymous
WaPo comments:

Maybe not the best messaging for someone whose Engineering Department is struggling to recruit female students and faculty? I’m beginning to see why.

That said, putting the majority of your focus here on mothers and not parents is pretty darn sexist, Mitch. And nice timing on a weekend where we should be thanking and celebrating mothers and mother figures, full stop.

He hates LGBTQ also. Disguisting person.

Mitch, I know that you hate women of color. Every speech and writing has made this evident. You can more about the pigs of Indiana than you do the moms of the world.

Is this the Washington Post’s idea of balanced reporting? One columnist offers strategies to cope with the Supreme Court’s covert announcement they will take bodily autonomy away from the female half of the U.S. population in 2022. The other columnist, a Republican university president, “celebrates” Mothers Day by denigrating the moms of kids at his university. The ugly and ironic message of this column highlights the all-in nature of the Republican war on women.

Thank you! This is indeed one of the ugliest possible columns a person could write about mothers the day before Mother’s Day! The Post needs to install a new editorial page editor pronto. What’s the delay?

Umm… (checks reproductive gear and stretch marks) yes I believe we did! I was the opposite of a helicopter parent actually, but that’s not the point. To parade the complaints of an elite Republican university president about a handful of moms at his elite university is beyond ugly as a way to “celebrate” Mother’s Day.

Leave it to a fanatical “Christian conservative” to pervert & twist Mother’s Day messaging to include an indictment of over zealous parents…while slathering accolades on his own handling of these “mom mowers”. Tiresome.

Republican President of Purdue wishes Happy Mothers Day, to even the crazy Moms of his students. No wonder his wife ran away once!

Humorous to a point; but ill timed. These are the exceptions not the rule, there are some very heroic mothers out there, let’s applaud them.

What a weird take. A few over the top examples of mothers having extreme reactions to letting go of their teenaged children? This would be a great topic of conversation over lunch with other college personnel but as a Mother’s Day essay in the WaPo? The guy who wrote this and whoever approved it for publication seem just as odd as the mothers they are deriding.

Oddly tone deaf article for Mother’s Day. Wow.

No doubt, helicopter parenting is a nuisance at best and harmful at worst. But really, Mitch Daniels? What a condescending and misogynistic op-ed for Mother's Day. Thanks for reminding us, again, of your true nature. I look forward to reading your corresponding opinion piece for Father's Day.

What a patronizing message for Mother’s Day! Of course there are always examples of mothers (should be parents, really) being overzealous. But why would this be the message on a day to celebrate mothers?

Ugh, thanks for letting us know that your university is run by a misogynist jerk that doesn’t take maintaining student housing properly. We’ll pass.

Thanks, Mitch, for your unsolicited, misogynistic take on life. Thank you, also, for timing it with Mother's Day. You're the gift who keeps on giving.
#DitchMitch

I would love to believe this university official, but my experIence as a parent of three college students is that the schools do nothing when students advocate for themselves. No, I didn’t get involved, but the number of lies told to prospective students and their parents during visits is astounding. Colleges overall are doing a very poor job of educating, housing, feeding, and providing a safe campus. I wonder if their funny stories during orientation about helicopter parents are a way of intimidating parents to keep paying for substandard conditions.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My mom didn't know my major in college...I didn't have texting to alert her to my daily travails but I called her on the hall phone maybe once a week... my cafeteria food sucked, my dorm sucked, some professors sucked, but I did just fine. I follow(ed) my four kids college facebook groups and see the moms'...all moms, no dads.. posts, and I am sometimes tempted, but always decline, to chime in, on some grievence...and am so happy I resisted. The only thing I will say is that one mom called out a carbon monoxide detection her kids monitor found that identified a real issue...that, I do agree with. But, most things, as the kid, I would be mortified if my parent stepped in.


Again, how many moms do these posts represent out of all the moms at the school?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What an a$$.


Stop it.


DP. Why? It’s true.


No it isn’t. You are a stupid lefty who wants to ignorantly paint anyone moderately on tge right as being extreme. You are very wrong and very incorrect in your crude assessor politics. Grow up or start to learn by reading.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What an a$$.


Stop it.


DP. Why? It’s true.


No it isn’t. You are a stupid lefty who wants to ignorantly paint anyone moderately on tge right as being extreme. You are very wrong and very incorrect in your crude assessor politics. Grow up or start to learn by reading.


DP: "assessor politics"?
post reply Forum Index » College and University Discussion
Message Quick Reply
Go to: