What's your favorite celebrity mystery or secret scandal?

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Anonymous wrote:PPs have mentioned some good ones. This one was mentioned on early pages: all the details on how Katie escaped Tom Cruise.

This is one celeb book I would actually read. Katie or Nicole.

There is an article on this about Katie with a lot of detail, although not everything. To summarize, her father was an attorney (I think family law) who helped her to get out.

Yes, I've read about that. Still a lot for a small town family law attorney to get her out of the grips of Scientology, but I'd still like to know more. I really want to know about Nicole. They were together something like 11 years and "infertile" when they adopted those 2 kids who have now disowned her since she freed herself from the church. She broke free and...they both (Tom and Nicole) had 1 and 2 biological kids within a year or so. She seems pretty "normal" and has really flourished, but a) I can't imagine her pain that those kids consider her a "suppressive person" and won't make any contact b) I just want to know about those 11 years. Katie wisened up faster and got her daughter out (in like, a SWAT team attempt to escape), and her daughter is a "suppressive person" who hasn't seen her dad in like 7 years. It's just so bizarre. I want a tell-all from Nicole.

And to add, Tom is widely rumored to be gay. How did these women get into this and out?

Yes, how did a regular guy attorney beat the machine of Scientology + Tom's resources? What were the triggers that let them know they needed to have a solid plan to get Katie and Suri out? The Nicole/Tom/kids issue is fascinating also. I think Nicole's fame was built by Tom's people and she had to keep up her end of the deal.

I would absolutely love to know the details of the bolded above, but I'm not entirely surprised that Martin Holmes was able to put this together. It's called working outside the system with good people you trust, everyone keeping their mouth shut, and luck. Now how all that came together is something I would like to read.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is the red headed guys son, not Charles’.

So much in that family to unpack. This, Diana's death, the countless affairs, Prince Andrew's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. I would love to know Harry's true feelings on his marriage and leaving royal life. I would be happy to be out but I felt like he looked like a puppet in that interview with Oprah.

I would also like to know the true story behind Bill and Hillary. Not the Lewinsky affair but did they ever really love one another? Is it a political marriage? Why did she stay when it seemed like being married to him only hurt her?

My take on the Royal family is very boring: the British aristocracy have been like this literally forever. barely a year goes by without a series of movie about them or their forebears. IT's just the way it is. Less murder these days.

I feel like the consensus on Bill and Hillary is that they loved/love either very much, but Bill can't keep it in his pants. At some point, divorce didn't make sense re: her political ambitions, and here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is the red headed guys son, not Charles’.

So much in that family to unpack. This, Diana's death, the countless affairs, Prince Andrew's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. I would love to know Harry's true feelings on his marriage and leaving royal life. I would be happy to be out but I felt like he looked like a puppet in that interview with Oprah.

I would also like to know the true story behind Bill and Hillary. Not the Lewinsky affair but did they ever really love one another? Is it a political marriage? Why did she stay when it seemed like being married to him only hurt her?

My take on the Royal family is very boring: the British aristocracy have been like this literally forever. barely a year goes by without a series of movie about them or their forebears. IT's just the way it is. Less murder these days.

I feel like the consensus on Bill and Hillary is that they loved/love either very much, but Bill can't keep it in his pants. At some point, divorce didn't make sense re: her political ambitions, and here we are.

I think there was love there and still is, but tempered obviously by decades and decades and serious challenges together. Life is not a romance novel obviously. They created what works for them.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is the red headed guys son, not Charles’.

So much in that family to unpack. This, Diana's death, the countless affairs, Prince Andrew's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. I would love to know Harry's true feelings on his marriage and leaving royal life. I would be happy to be out but I felt like he looked like a puppet in that interview with Oprah.

I would also like to know the true story behind Bill and Hillary. Not the Lewinsky affair but did they ever really love one another? Is it a political marriage? Why did she stay when it seemed like being married to him only hurt her?

My take on the Royal family is very boring: the British aristocracy have been like this literally forever. barely a year goes by without a series of movie about them or their forebears. IT's just the way it is. Less murder these days.

I feel like the consensus on Bill and Hillary is that they loved/love either very much, but Bill can't keep it in his pants. At some point, divorce didn't make sense re: her political ambitions, and here we are.

+1 re Bill and Hillary. I think they both agreed that it would be "her turn" after his presidency, so she was faced with two choices: (1) leave him, thereby creating more controversy, have the jilted ex-wife label for the rest of her life, and navigate electoral politics on her own, or (2) stay together, move past the cheating narrative, and have his/his team/Bill-friendly party infrastructure help launch her political career in NY. Add in the love/affection that I do think existed between them at some point, and she chose (2).

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift related: Was it ever fully confirmed why she and Katy Perry had a years long feud?

Taylor was mad at Katy "stealing" some of her background dancers.

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I grew up in the same town as Katy Perry and when we were in hs her parents refused to let her perform in a musical revue performance of “Cell Block Tango” with me and some other girls because they deemed it “too risqué” for their good little Christian daughter.

A couple of years later I guess she proved them wrong…

She was very mousy and shy I recall.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift related: Was it ever fully confirmed why she and Katy Perry had a years long feud?

Taylor was mad at Katy "stealing" some of her background dancers.

That explanation has never been all that persuasive, really. The dancers supposedly had clauses written into their contracts to allow them to leave the tour with 30 days notice. I have a hard time believing that Taylor took their contractually-sound move so personally that she created this crazy public beef that lasted for years. Beyond her little "special place in hell" remark, you didn't see her go after Tiny and Amy nearly as hard, and they made fun of her publicly. I really think there was some personal aspect to the beef (John Mayer?) that neither has an interest in sharing publicly, so maybe we will never know.

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While I so much want this to be true, in this picture Ronan has Woody's nose and Mia's eyes and he doesn't otherwise really look like Sinatra.

OMG I think the pic side-by-side next to Sinatra almost PROVE he was spawned from Sinatra!

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I didn’t read through all pages, so excuse me if Natalie Wood’s death was already mentioned.

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While I so much want this to be true, in this picture Ronan has Woody's nose and Mia's eyes and he doesn't otherwise really look like Sinatra.

OMG I think the pic side-by-side next to Sinatra almost PROVE he was spawned from Sinatra!

At first glance to those pictures, I also thought Ronan has Woody's nose. HOWEVER, I can also see the Sinatra resemblance. Whoever his father is, Ronan is smart and very handsome.

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Anonymous wrote:I grew up in the same town as Katy Perry and when we were in hs her parents refused to let her perform in a musical revue performance of “Cell Block Tango” with me and some other girls because they deemed it “too risqué” for their good little Christian daughter.

A couple of years later I guess she proved them wrong…

She was very mousy and shy I recall.

She did start as a Christian rock singer!

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is the red headed guys son, not Charles’.

So much in that family to unpack. This, Diana's death, the countless affairs, Prince Andrew's involvement with Jeffrey Epstein. I would love to know Harry's true feelings on his marriage and leaving royal life. I would be happy to be out but I felt like he looked like a puppet in that interview with Oprah.

I would also like to know the true story behind Bill and Hillary. Not the Lewinsky affair but did they ever really love one another? Is it a political marriage? Why did she stay when it seemed like being married to him only hurt her?

My take on the Royal family is very boring: the British aristocracy have been like this literally forever. barely a year goes by without a series of movie about them or their forebears. IT's just the way it is. Less murder these days.

I feel like the consensus on Bill and Hillary is that they loved/love either very much, but Bill can't keep it in his pants. At some point, divorce didn't make sense re: her political ambitions, and here we are.

+1 re Bill and Hillary. I think they both agreed that it would be "her turn" after his presidency, so she was faced with two choices: (1) leave him, thereby creating more controversy, have the jilted ex-wife label for the rest of her life, and navigate electoral politics on her own, or (2) stay together, move past the cheating narrative, and have his/his team/Bill-friendly party infrastructure help launch her political career in NY. Add in the love/affection that I do think existed between them at some point, and she chose (2).

I think there was/is genuine love between them. How incredibly hurtful for her to have to endure public knowledge of their marital issues.

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Anonymous wrote:Taylor Swift related: Was it ever fully confirmed why she and Katy Perry had a years long feud?

Taylor was mad at Katy "stealing" some of her background dancers.

That explanation has never been all that persuasive, really. The dancers supposedly had clauses written into their contracts to allow them to leave the tour with 30 days notice. I have a hard time believing that Taylor took their contractually-sound move so personally that she created this crazy public beef that lasted for years. Beyond her little "special place in hell" remark, you didn't see her go after Tiny and Amy nearly as hard, and they made fun of her publicly. I really think there was some personal aspect to the beef (John Mayer?) that neither has an interest in sharing publicly, so maybe we will never know.

Oh come on...she was going to "go after" Tina fey and Amy Poehler? Two beloved, powerful and accomplished comedic icons who are about twenty years older? Please. She's not an idiot.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PPs have mentioned some good ones. This one was mentioned on early pages: all the details on how Katie escaped Tom Cruise.

This is one celeb book I would actually read. Katie or Nicole.

There is an article on this about Katie with a lot of detail, although not everything. To summarize, her father was an attorney (I think family law) who helped her to get out.

Yes, I've read about that. Still a lot for a small town family law attorney to get her out of the grips of Scientology, but I'd still like to know more. I really want to know about Nicole. They were together something like 11 years and "infertile" when they adopted those 2 kids who have now disowned her since she freed herself from the church. She broke free and...they both (Tom and Nicole) had 1 and 2 biological kids within a year or so. She seems pretty "normal" and has really flourished, but a) I can't imagine her pain that those kids consider her a "suppressive person" and won't make any contact b) I just want to know about those 11 years. Katie wisened up faster and got her daughter out (in like, a SWAT team attempt to escape), and her daughter is a "suppressive person" who hasn't seen her dad in like 7 years. It's just so bizarre. I want a tell-all from Nicole.

And to add, Tom is widely rumored to be gay. How did these women get into this and out?

Yes, how did a regular guy attorney beat the machine of Scientology + Tom's resources? What were the triggers that let them know they needed to have a solid plan to get Katie and Suri out? The Nicole/Tom/kids issue is fascinating also. I think Nicole's fame was built by Tom's people and she had to keep up her end of the deal.

I would absolutely love to know the details of the bolded above, but I'm not entirely surprised that Martin Holmes was able to put this together. It's called working outside the system with good people you trust, everyone keeping their mouth shut, and luck. Now how all that came together is something I would like to read.

I'm convinced that Katie Holmes's father likely worked with Nicole Kidman to get Katie out of that marriage with Suri. Nicole likely instructed them on what evidence to gather, how to exploit the Scientology system/structure, etc.

After Nicole lost her kids, I doubt she wanted to see Katie go through the same thing. In fact, you'd do anything to ensure that man (TC) doesn't hurt another mom.

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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?

Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.

BS fueled by misogyny. Kurt was a heroin fiend and couldn't quit. Do you know what that's like? Read more than garbage pp.