What's your favorite celebrity mystery or secret scandal?

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I love this thread! I don’t have anything juicy to add but this has been on my mind so excited to share here. Blake Shelton and Adam Levine are not friends anymore. They don’t follow each other on social media and you haven’t heard any banter from them. I would love to know what happened.
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Anonymous wrote:John Travolta - he's gay but Scientology doesn't allow it. Very sad situation.


This isn’t a mystery. It’s an open secret that’s more open than secret.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.


I really don't understand why people think that suicidal drug abusers didn't do it all by themselves. Courtney is a mental case, but f if I think she did this to Kurt Cobain. I think she contributed to and hastened his death, totally unintentionally, just by being herself. I do not believe for one minute that she wanted him dead.
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Josh Lucas was secretly dating Ghislaine Maxwell for years including right up until her arrest.

I also love the tie-in that he was and still is secretly dating a married former DC scencester
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Anonymous wrote:Re: Tom Cruise

When Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes started dating, I had a friend in the entertainment industry who told me the following:
Apparently everyone in Hollywood knows Tom Cruise is gay. He auditioned women to be his wife and picked Katie Holmes. They both had movies coming out and their relationship would help with publicity (Katie Holmes was not getting such amazing reviews from Batman Begins!). They had a 6 year contract.

Lo and behold, after 6 years, they got divorced!
This. There was no divorce scheme, her father didn’t rescue her, she didn’t escape. Her contract ended as planned.


If it was a planned contract ending, why did it seem so dramatic, like she was escaping in secrecy? I would think that wouldn't have been part of the plan because it makes Tom look bad versus a planned amicable split.
Media. Neither of them have ever spoke about the end of the marriage so this whole escape fantasy was invented. Do you real believe a small town divorce attorney would be capable of battling against Scientology?


What battle? Cruise and Scientology folded like a wet napkin.
Yes. Because it was agreed to from the beginning.

She threatened to reveal things about him and Scientology so in exchange for an easy divorce she stayed quiet.
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I am curious to know the relationship between the actress who was the star of 13 Reasons Why, Langford, and her sister. Her sister gave an interview once (also an actor) and implied that she doesn't have a sister.
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Anonymous wrote:PPs have mentioned some good ones. This one was mentioned on early pages: all the details on how Katie escaped Tom Cruise.


Katie’s daddy played Tom like a fiddle.
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Anonymous wrote:Casey Anthony didn’t kill her daughter Caylee; the child drowned in the pool by accident while Casey and her dad were in the house. They had left the back door open which they were explicitly told to shut by Casey‘s mom, because Caylee was prone to jump into the pool without supervision. Casey and her dad were so overcome with shock and fear of being charged with murder or neglect that they hid the baby‘s body.


Nope, Nope, Nope. CA killed her daughter. That ignorant jury.
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Anonymous wrote:Anthony Bourdain's suicide.

It is so hard to believe that a successful 61 year old who had surmounted so much in his life, would impulsively hang himself just before a planned dinner with a dear friend and his colleagues while in a hotel overseas.

More importantly, he had a minor daughter whom he loved dearly and a good coparenting relationship with her mother.

IMO, I think it was a case of autoerotic asphyxiation. I think his freewheeling and "open" relationship with Asia Argento may have had something to do with it. It seems he went off the rails a bit after he met her.

Perhaps he was introduced or encouraged to use asphyxiation and it went terribly wrong for him. He was always looking for new and exciting food experiences, why not sexual?



From what I read about him, he was suicidal for a lot of his life. So it was amazing that he made it as long as he did. But yeah, Asia Argento was the catalyst, and she’s pretty terrible. I feel bad for his kid and ex-wife.


It just seems like such an odd way/place to do it. Especially if you want to be "successful." Using a terry cloth bathrobe belt from a hotel's closet rod seems a bad choice for a guy who was pretty intelligent and street-smart. Knots loosen, fabric could rip, or rod could snap/bend under the weight. He would have certainly been taller than the clothes rod. Choosing to do it while being overseas in a hotel room seems off too.

He was expected for dinner and his absence meant there was a good likelihood he might have been either interrupted or found and resuscitated. It seems like an erudite guy like Bourdain might have considered those factors. That's why I think it may have been an auto-erotic thing gone wrong, which is not unheard of for male celebrities.


Hey, I was just thinking about INXS singer Michael Hutchence, who I beleived had died in an act of autoerotic asphyxiation, but appears that is not true. I just read up on it. Hutchence was in a very dramatic relationship with Paula Yates and had drug abuse problems. Also he was distraught over child custody issues, and was upset that he wasn't going to get an expected visit with his daughter. He hung himself with a belt alone in his hotel room.

The autoerotic asphyxiation idea came from Paula, who was apparently in denial over the suicide. She died of a heroin overdose in 2000. Her ex Bob Geldof raised Hutchence and Paula's daughter Tiger alongside the 4 daughters he had with Paula.

Anyway, I was surprised by the parallels between Anthony and Michael. Both had struggled with drugs and depression. Both were in fairly new and very dramatic relationships. Both took their life in a hotel room by hanging.


Yet without a note or other direct evidence of bona fide suicide there is still an element of doubt simply because there ARE cases of death by asphyxiation - and many families may not want that information exposed. That's why I think the Bourdain case fits the "Favorite Celebrity Mystery" title of this thread.

I would imagine Bourdain had a significant life insurance policy and wonder if the company flat-out refused payment under the suicide clause. However, if it was eventually ruled as accidental asphyxiation it might have bearing on the pay out.




I have more thoughts about your last paragraph. I do believe that life insurance payouts become more relevant if the deceased is poorer. Let's say a father makes $100k and his family is dependent on that money, the life insurance is very important. Questions of suicide or accident are hot if the family needs the money badly.

Bourdain died with just over $1 million. You would think it would be more. However. Dude only became a star in the last 20+/- years of his life, before that, he was a paycheck-to-paycheck kitchen cook. Then he wasn't used to having money, didn't necessarily respect the money. Maybe even disrespected the money. Who knows of he even had life insurance.

He did however have a will that set up a trust for his daughter, and so she is set.


I was shocked by his death, generally, but I was also really surprised by this. 61 years old and worth 1 million? A govt employee that age likely has that money. Why was it not a LOT more and what's the trust for his daughter and how is she "set"?


I think he did. It is almost a certainty he had insurance as part of his contract with the network. He was technically "on the job" even though cause of death was questionable. Plus, I find it hard to believe that any financial advisor (or even his ex-wife as part of divorce/child maintenance) didn't have a conversation with him about insurance for his daughter.

Like I said, he was a pretty smart guy. He KNEW if he committed suicide that insurance wouldn't pay out, neither his employer's nor his own. I could see him getting in a little sports car and "accidentally" hitting a tree at full speed. But the method he used was so fraught with problems, the primary being no insurance pay out, that I still think his death is a mystery.



In every state that I’m aware of (most of them), the suicide exclusion has a limit of 2 years, after that it’s paid, without exception. I have no dog in this fight but the only way a life insurance payout is denied is if someone bought the policy less than 2 years before their death. After 2 years, a payment cannot be denied.


This is true.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.


I really don't understand why people think that suicidal drug abusers didn't do it all by themselves. Courtney is a mental case, but f if I think she did this to Kurt Cobain. I think she contributed to and hastened his death, totally unintentionally, just by being herself. I do not believe for one minute that she wanted him dead.


Have you watched Soaked in Bleach? It's incredibly compelling. It was murder and she was in on it.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.


I really don't understand why people think that suicidal drug abusers didn't do it all by themselves. Courtney is a mental case, but f if I think she did this to Kurt Cobain. I think she contributed to and hastened his death, totally unintentionally, just by being herself. I do not believe for one minute that she wanted him dead.


Have you watched Soaked in Bleach? It's incredibly compelling. It was murder and she was in on it.


NP. Didn’t a bunch of people featured in that come out to say that the filmmakers had twisted their commentary, and that they actually believed it was a suicide?

And that’s putting aside the fact that someone originally hired as a private investigator decided to take their version of events and try to cash in on it like this.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.


I really don't understand why people think that suicidal drug abusers didn't do it all by themselves. Courtney is a mental case, but f if I think she did this to Kurt Cobain. I think she contributed to and hastened his death, totally unintentionally, just by being herself. I do not believe for one minute that she wanted him dead.


Have you watched Soaked in Bleach? It's incredibly compelling. It was murder and she was in on it.


NP. Didn’t a bunch of people featured in that come out to say that the filmmakers had twisted their commentary, and that they actually believed it was a suicide?

And that’s putting aside the fact that someone originally hired as a private investigator decided to take their version of events and try to cash in on it like this.


Yes. I read the Wikipedia entry for Soaked in Bleach and it lists several controversies - an inaccuracy concerning firearms and a few experts who were portrayed as supporting the murder theory but who actually support the suicide theory.
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Anonymous wrote:I would love to know who the father of Mindy Kaling's kids is and if there's ever going to be more than a friendship with BJ Novak.

I want to know who sexually assaulted Corey Haim.

Did Kurt Cobain die by suicide or was he murdered?


Courtney did it! I listened to a podcast about it and was blown away. I'd never heard that theory/rumor before. I was absolutely convinced after the podcast.

I think it was the Disgraceland podcast but could have been Killer Queens.


Also watch the documentary Soaked In Bleach - there was no doubt in my mind after watching that. It was made by the private investigator that Courtney hired to prove that she wasn’t involved in Kurt’s death. He ended up coming to the opposite conclusion (despite being on her payroll) stopped working for her and made the documentary. Fascinating.


I really don't understand why people think that suicidal drug abusers didn't do it all by themselves. Courtney is a mental case, but f if I think she did this to Kurt Cobain. I think she contributed to and hastened his death, totally unintentionally, just by being herself. I do not believe for one minute that she wanted him dead.

I never really followed this story but I seem to remember that it was things like the gun he was shot with had a longer barrel than he could have reached to the trigger. Stuff like that.
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Anonymous wrote:Casey Anthony didn’t kill her daughter Caylee; the child drowned in the pool by accident while Casey and her dad were in the house. They had left the back door open which they were explicitly told to shut by Casey‘s mom, because Caylee was prone to jump into the pool without supervision. Casey and her dad were so overcome with shock and fear of being charged with murder or neglect that they hid the baby‘s body.


Nope, Nope, Nope. CA killed her daughter. That ignorant jury.

100% I know people that worked on that case. If you ask them what happened they all believe Casey Anthony did it and there is no question about it.
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