Athletes have such an edge

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Anonymous wrote:They absolutely do. The only kids I know personally who go to Ivys are recruited athletes. (Not in DMV area.)

My boyfriend’s ds is a standout soccer player and going to a school he would never get in otherwise.

I don’t have any judgment about it and probably see it as an overall fine thing because I don’t really believe in entitlement to spots in college.

But there is stigma associated with that on campus. The athletes are viewed as weaker students because they got in because of sports. It worth it to take the admit but just be aware of that.

Not really.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like these kids are not understanding the meaning of the word potential. You need to ask how many recruits are on the list and where in the order you are. The coach will answer this in our experience and then you can understand if you really have a chance or not.

My experience is coaches get opportunities close to signing day and bump players as late as late Fall. Your position on the list moves unless you are their #1 or #2 recruit.

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Sour grapes OP. Get a life and recognize your own privilege.

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Athletes get to sleep with lot ladies on campus, what not to like, LOL....

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My DS was recently admitted to a D3 SLAC. I joined the parent FB group and there was a thread welcoming newly admitted families. Such a large percentage are athletes (my DS is not). Granted it’s a smaller group then admitted students as a whole, but it was still interesting to me.

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At DS’s ivy, the recruited athletes that year came from the Blair magnet, Sidwell, and TJ. It’s not like they were slackers.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like these kids are not understanding the meaning of the word potential. You need to ask how many recruits are on the list and where in the order you are. The coach will answer this in our experience and then you can understand if you really have a chance or not.

There should be no confusion. The coach needs to tell you if they are protecting the athlete through admissions or if the athlete need to get in their own.

Make sure you understand exactly what the process is and how your athlete is considered. In D3.... the admissions department should do a preread on the athlete and the coach must communicate if the athlete is or is not an OFFICIAL recruit. This must be clear and if you are not clear..ask as many questions as you need

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There is nothing wrong with your kid putting hours and hours in to studying and homework, my kid just puts his time into sports. Both can end up on the same school. Colleges want both.

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

College athlete is still a great proxy for work ethic. There's a reason that they also have an edge when applying to jobs.

This. They can take feedback, work hard, be a teammate, and persevere through adversity. And they have great time management skills, because to get recruited to the best schools they need a strong academic transcript on top of the elite sports skill.

I think it's the time management. Its much easier to have a perfect academic transcript if you have a couple of clubs that take an hour or two a week, but you generally get home before 5:00 and have the entire evening to study and work vs. an athlete who can easily have practice four days a week ranging from an hour to several hours that may be a long drive from home and weekends packed with games and have the expectation of doing strength training, cardio, and skills training outside of practice.

I get that the athlete likes the sport and is good at it and has to manage their time to do it. I have one on that track.

But the kid that wants to use their free time in the pursuit of knowledge and learn to manage time doing that is the one I want for my employee, or advisor or surgeon, etc. But you do you.

I guess you don't know that as a group, surgeons are statistically much more likely to have been college athletes than the regular population. There is a high correlation between surgery and college athletic experience. Go educate yourself.

Seems logical. I want a surgeon who can perform under pressure and has great hand eye coordination. The hours expected during internships and residency will be familiar to athletes, and downright relaxing to some.

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Anonymous wrote:They absolutely do. The only kids I know personally who go to Ivys are recruited athletes. (Not in DMV area.)

My boyfriend’s ds is a standout soccer player and going to a school he would never get in otherwise.

I don’t have any judgment about it and probably see it as an overall fine thing because I don’t really believe in entitlement to spots in college.

But there is stigma associated with that on campus. The athletes are viewed as weaker students because they got in because of sports. It worth it to take the admit but just be aware of that.

I don't think they care what the nerds think anyway.

The " I don't care" defense mechanism. It does exist.

This is a silly tangent. The only people who stigmatize athletes as weak students are younger versions of people like OP who are jealous and bitter about athletes being more sought after by colleges. Most people are not like this, and the ones who are are disappointed to find that the majority of athletes do well academically in college. Hopefully this helps them learn the dangers of stereotyping, though I don’t hold out a lot of hope given how many full-grown athlete haters there are on this forum.

Not one poster expressed hatred for athletes.

I personally expressed DIFFERENT aspirations for my child.

That is all. Why is that opinion any less valid than yours?

Parent of non-athletes here. You're expressing "different" aspirations for your child only because you know your child doesn't have the goods. If your child did have the goods, you'd be all over it. Stop kidding yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with your kid putting hours and hours in to studying and homework, my kid just puts his time into sports. Both can end up on the same school. Colleges want both.

We are aware. Should higher education be focused on admitting more scholar scholars and less on admitting more scholar athletes? Some say yes and some say no.

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Anonymous wrote:At DS’s ivy, the recruited athletes that year came from the Blair magnet, Sidwell, and TJ. It’s not like they were slackers.

Just stop. The Ivies take plenty of athletes from regular public schools, and those students aren't slackers either.

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I have no desire to offer tax-exempt status to colleges that admit athletes. Or to legacy and big donor kids. It’s a huge scam that siphons off needed taxes for the rich and spoiled.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

Pro Athletes make a lot more money than your doctor and will donate generously to the Alum Assoc.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

Pro Athletes make a lot more money than your doctor and will donate generously to the Alum Assoc.

No one is going pro. Go away with that nonsense.