Athletes have such an edge

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

College athlete is still a great proxy for work ethic. There's a reason that they also have an edge when applying to jobs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is our culture. I agree it makes no sense. Really what do sports have to do with pursuit of higher education? I don't think.any other countries play collegiate sports like we do. But you have to accept it as it is just the way it is here.

I do accept it but it’s crazy. His sat is about hundreds below the average accepted sat there.

That’s because SAT was never a relevant metric for his admission. He focused on the correct things and won.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you even knew everything an athlete had to do during the commitment process you would not be complaining.

Wow! the score is 100 less, bfd.

Athlete GPA's are higher than the average GPA than the average college student.

Reading comprehension fail.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My friend’s son has many offers from good schools - only one application submitted - and just committed to a school where he hadn’t applied.

There is no way they didn’t apply. They might have applied after a verbal offer but they still filled out the forms and sent their transcripts etc . . .

They haven’t applied yet - just accepted the offer. But really, is that the point you want to make? Who cares if they still have to apply, they are essentially in, barring a rare occurrence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

This. Education is good for everyone. Even athletes.

[Anonymous]

Why should not an athlete have an edge? They add to the school in a way that most cannot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You haven’t figured out that our society values sports over education?

But you can get into a good school with amazing academics and zero athletics, but if you have amazing athletics you still need academics that are far above average.

It's higher EDUCATION...not higher athletics.

Then you don't understand EDUCATION.

I don't give a rats ass if my lawyer or my investment advisor or my doctor can catch a ball. I need their brains...period.

And you still don't understand education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

[Anonymous]

For some BS collegiate sport like fencing where the "swordsman" would like not be able to make any team at his high school that has cuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend’s son has many offers from good schools - only one application submitted - and just committed to a school where he hadn’t applied.

There is no way they didn’t apply. They might have applied after a verbal offer but they still filled out the forms and sent their transcripts etc . . .

They haven’t applied yet - just accepted the offer. But really, is that the point you want to make? Who cares if they still have to apply, they are essentially in, barring a rare occurrence.

Depending on the school that is not necessarily true. I know someone who was a recruited athlete to UVA (OOS) and received her commitment her freshman year of HS. She was not a great student and she had to have extensive tutoring for her SAT testing to ensure it was "in range" for UVA or she would have not gotten admitted - sports or no sports. She was able to get it into the 1300 or even 1400s, was accepted and attends. (quit the sport btw)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

NP here. Because the odds are those athletes who do “well” in their careers = make a very high income, and thus are more likely to in return as alums give more money over a longer period of time back to their university. The schools are playing the long game here. By investing in their lacrosse programs, the schools are betting on those types of players, from certain family backgrounds, to go into high income careers after school and the school can cultivate them into high level school spirit and loyalty and hope they become boosters.

Know any college lax bros who are know investment bankers? Hedge fund managers? Developers? Entrepreneurs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

Colleges want alums who are future leaders. Sports are a proven method of developing leaders.

This is just rhetoric.

Certain sports -- e.g. sailing, fencing, skiing -- make all the difference in college admissions because they send a very clear "full pay" signal.

Others -- e.g. football and basketball -- are needed in order to generate revenue for universities.

Money quote = Collegiate athletics are a "giant multibillion dollar commercial entertainment platform functioning under the guise of a tax-exempt educational pursuit"

Basically it's just an arms race. So long as everyone else is doing it, you can't not do it.