Athletes have such an edge

[Anonymous]

So whoever posted about “dumb athletes” it appears that your snowflake kid just got dunked on again by the recruiter’s comments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

LOL wat.

Athletes get a break with admissions because Ivy League schools all decided that they don't want their teams to suck. That's it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

Share the research.

It’s really not hard to find. You should just use Google.

Here is one but there are many so good luck educating yourself but you sound too small minded to be open to the idea.

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/stanford-education-study-provides-new-evidence-big-fish-little-pond-effect-students-globally

That does not support your argument at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

Share the research.

It’s really not hard to find. You should just use Google.

Here is one but there are many so good luck educating yourself but you sound too small minded to be open to the idea.

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/stanford-education-study-provides-new-evidence-big-fish-little-pond-effect-students-globally

That does not support your argument at all.

It actually gives a balanced view and links to studies but you are too lazy to do more than glance at the article and find a point that supports your side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

Well that’s one of the excuses given. There is no justification for the superior treatment athletes get in college admissions. It’s done only for money and yo appease the alums who played sports. The non money making sports had to be included after Title IX. I think it all should be abolished. The football players at my Division III Slac we’re terrible students and lent a toxic environment to the campus. Fortunately their fest was shut down after some young athlete men got killed during rush.

Did they rush the football team? Or a fraternity

Sorry. tapping on phone. “Fest”
= “frat”. There was one frat on campus that the athletes belonged two. Two young men were killed during rush. Drunk driving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

LOL wat.

Athletes get a break with admissions because Ivy League schools all decided that they don't want their teams to suck. That's it.

No because their teams still aren’t really that good. They were just sick of the bottom half of the class crashing and burning

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

Share the research.

It’s really not hard to find. You should just use Google.

Here is one but there are many so good luck educating yourself but you sound too small minded to be open to the idea.

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/stanford-education-study-provides-new-evidence-big-fish-little-pond-effect-students-globally

That does not support your argument at all.

It actually gives a balanced view and links to studies but you are too lazy to do more than glance at the article and find a point that supports your side.

Sensitive no? You are sure quick to prince but you list your argument pages ago. There was no such study about high stats students doing poorly in colleges upon arrival.

[Anonymous]

Lost your argument. We are still waiting for the study you claim exists

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

LOL wat.

Athletes get a break with admissions because Ivy League schools all decided that they don't want their teams to suck. That's it.

No because their teams still aren’t really that good. They were just sick of the bottom half of the class crashing and burning

Half the class crashing and burning? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

This. Assuming a solid GPA, external pursuits (sports, music, arts) that demand a lot of time, energy and some degree of achievement offers insight into that person’s work ethic and ability to power through…. Especially useful in covid. This is the kid I’d hire.

PP And even more so if the activity was not an individualistic sport but rather a team sport/activity in which an individual works hard and each member must be aware of and support the whole, which is the team I require.

You mean like in an orchestra or a play?

An orchestra is an orchestra.

A play has a cast.

neither is a team, so they cannot teach teamwork.

Says the person who has clearly never played in an orchestra or acted or did crew for theater.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

LOL wat.

Athletes get a break with admissions because Ivy League schools all decided that they don't want their teams to suck. That's it.

No because their teams still aren’t really that good. They were just sick of the bottom half of the class crashing and burning

Half the class crashing and burning? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Do you know how out of touch you sound?

They expect graduates to actually excel at life, they track graduates and pivot their admissions policies based on who is successful and who is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are talking about all sport like lacrosse or crew or field hockey, these recruits statistically will presumptively be successful in their chosen careers.

I’m not but what does this have to do with anything?

This. Assuming a solid GPA, external pursuits (sports, music, arts) that demand a lot of time, energy and some degree of achievement offers insight into that person’s work ethic and ability to power through…. Especially useful in covid. This is the kid I’d hire.

PP And even more so if the activity was not an individualistic sport but rather a team sport/activity in which an individual works hard and each member must be aware of and support the whole, which is the team I require.

You mean like in an orchestra or a play?

An orchestra is an orchestra.

A play has a cast.

neither is a team, so they cannot teach teamwork.

Says the person who has clearly never played in an orchestra or acted or did crew for theater.

I think maybe she has never even seen an orchestra or a play. Or maybe she was an athlete student and had a lot of concussions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

LOL wat.

Athletes get a break with admissions because Ivy League schools all decided that they don't want their teams to suck. That's it.

No because their teams still aren’t really that good. They were just sick of the bottom half of the class crashing and burning

Half the class crashing and burning? Do you realize how stupid you sound?

Do you know how out of touch you sound?

They expect graduates to actually excel at life, they track graduates and pivot their admissions policies based on who is successful and who is not.

And you think their answer was let’s get dumber people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Exactly—playing team sports prepares you for the real world and weeds out snowflake tendencies.

if that's true, then the admissions hook should be given to anyone who plays team sports and not just those who are good at them. it's the participation that matters.

Actually the reason athletes get a hook is not because of what they learned on the field, though that is valuable, Just like arts/music/theater provide value.

The reason they were given a hook is because research showed that students who only had good grades did not perform as well in college as athletes/artist/actors (minus the top 20% of the class)

The hook admissions started because schools ran into a problem with graduation rate and job placement when top students who were never anything but the top of their class end up at the bottom 3/4. Athletes/artist did not have this issue in the study so they decided to take athletes and artists to resolve this issue.

Share the research.

It’s really not hard to find. You should just use Google.

Here is one but there are many so good luck educating yourself but you sound too small minded to be open to the idea.

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/stanford-education-study-provides-new-evidence-big-fish-little-pond-effect-students-globally

That does not support your argument at all.

It actually gives a balanced view and links to studies but you are too lazy to do more than glance at the article and find a point that supports your side.

Sill waiting for that study you claimed existed.

[Anonymous]

I support giving boost to athletes in college and even in job applications.
Is it just excellence in popular team sports that provide an edge in college?
What above national/ international winners in individual sport? What about non revenue generating sports?