Why are book banners showing up at FCPS SB meetings

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Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

Ugh. Again for everyone in the back. The story has a 22 year old man reflecting on a sexual experience that happened when he was in 4th grade…with another 4th grader. It is semi-autobiographical. The antecdote is in the story because the other kid (now a grown adult as well) is now a prominent member of the community.

A pornographic movie started with opening scene of a grandpa reflecting an experience in his college years is still porn.

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From a parent perspective, you need to fill out a form and send some email messages. How is that time consuming?

If your goal is to get it removed, it can takes months.

If it’s so obviously terrible it could only take one email to the principal.

But if it’s less obvious then they should take time to carefully reviewed.

For example, how many idiots on here thought there was pedophilia in Lawn Boy - because they hadn’t actually read it.

One of the first questions on the form is “have you read it?”.

I stayed up last night to read it and now I got a greater issue with this book. 😂 authentic emotions and human attractions absolutely do not need to classify or define ones gender. gender is a social construct, human relationship should not be reduced to a hashtag.

I read it yesterday/early this morning as well. But I thought it was thought provoking and would lead to an interesting discussion about the idea of the American dream. Also, definitely not pedophilia. Every book in the library is not for every student, but there should be a book in the library for every student. If we take every book that is not in anyway controversial out of the library, I guarantee that book circulation goes down. Do you want non-readers or do you want critical thinkers?

The book is pretty graphic, if my kid secretly stash a copy under his pillow at age 16, fine. But if he read it at 12/6th grade, I would definitely have issues. When I studied classics in college, most of the incest, rape and torture weren’t this explicit and it did not deter us from being critical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

So why can’t we find supportive books that aren’t pornographic, bordering on pedophilia? We can surely do better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

So why can’t we find supportive books that aren’t pornographic, bordering on pedophilia? We can surely do better.

Japan has a specialized genre for this. Maybe we should import some 🤔

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

From a parent perspective, you need to fill out a form and send some email messages. How is that time consuming?

If your goal is to get it removed, it can takes months.

If it’s so obviously terrible it could only take one email to the principal.

But if it’s less obvious then they should take time to carefully reviewed.

For example, how many idiots on here thought there was pedophilia in Lawn Boy - because they hadn’t actually read it.

One of the first questions on the form is “have you read it?”.

I stayed up last night to read it and now I got a greater issue with this book. 😂 authentic emotions and human attractions absolutely do not need to classify or define ones gender. gender is a social construct, human relationship should not be reduced to a hashtag.

I read it yesterday/early this morning as well. But I thought it was thought provoking and would lead to an interesting discussion about the idea of the American dream. Also, definitely not pedophilia. Every book in the library is not for every student, but there should be a book in the library for every student. If we take every book that is not in anyway controversial out of the library, I guarantee that book circulation goes down. Do you want non-readers or do you want critical thinkers?

The book is pretty graphic, if my kid secretly stash a copy under his pillow at age 16, fine. But if he read it at 12/6th grade, I would definitely have issues. When I studied classics in college, most of the incest, rape and torture weren’t this explicit and it did not deter us from being critical.

There was no incest, rape, or torture in the book. And the book is in high school libraries (and two secondary libraries, but what are they supposed to do...only have content appropriate for middle schoolers in a high school library), so a 6th grader would not have access to it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

So why can’t we find supportive books that aren’t pornographic, bordering on pedophilia? We can surely do better.

How exactly does something "border on pedophelia?" It either has a pedophile in the book or it does not. This particular book in question, does not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

So why can’t we find supportive books that aren’t pornographic, bordering on pedophilia? We can surely do better.

Japan has a specialized genre for this. Maybe we should import some 🤔

Japan also has manga/anime. If you really want to see stuff that is almost porn, watch some anime/read some manga. Boobs everywhere.

[Anonymous]

There was no incest, rape, or torture in the book. And the book is in high school libraries (and two secondary libraries, but what are they supposed to do...only have content appropriate for middle schoolers in a high school library), so a 6th grader would not have access to it.

Do they really need this book? What are the redeeming qualities of it that require that horrible language?

But, remember, there is another book being discussed. The other is a graphic novel with extremely explicit pictures. Please tell us the redeeming qualities of that book.

And, frankly, I find discussion of fellatio between two fourth grade boys extremely offensive. Porn? Maybe not. The language is certainly graphic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The images in that book as seen in the video above are beyond disturbing. A child receives oral sex from a man in one of them. Wow.

If it was cis pedo would fcps ban it?

Never would have even made the shelves. The only reason these made the shelves was under the guise of being inclusive to lgbtq. They need to find a gay friendly book without pedophilia. I’m sure there are a few out there.

I am pretty certain gay people want to to be seen as people with talents, passion and positivity, not just man-boy love 💗

So why can’t we find supportive books that aren’t pornographic, bordering on pedophilia? We can surely do better.

STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION.

THERE IS NO PEDOPHILIA (AT ALL) OR PORNOGRAPHY.

Anyone who says that clearly hasn’t read the books. Just using them for faux outrage.

[Anonymous]

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There was no incest, rape, or torture in the book. And the book is in high school libraries (and two secondary libraries, but what are they supposed to do...only have content appropriate for middle schoolers in a high school library), so a 6th grader would not have access to it.

Do they really need this book? What are the redeeming qualities of it that require that horrible language?

But, remember, there is another book being discussed. The other is a graphic novel with extremely explicit pictures. Please tell us the redeeming qualities of that book.

And, frankly, I find discussion of fellatio between two fourth grade boys extremely offensive. Porn? Maybe not. The language is certainly graphic

Well, for starters, a snippet of a professional review of Lawn Boy: Eminently readable and deeply thought-provoking, Evison's deceptively simple novel takes on tough issues such as race, sexual identity, and the crushing weight of American capitalism.

Snippet of review of Gender Queer: A book to be savored rather than devoured, this memoir will resonate with teens, especially fans of Alison Bechdel's Fun Home and Mason Deaver's I Wish You All the Best. It's also a great resource for those who identify as nonbinary or asexual as well as for those who know someone who identifies that way and wish to better understand.

Also, to be clear, there is literally ONE panel of the graphic novel that contains a B&W drawing that includes a strap on. And another panel where there are two people on top of each other. I'm sorry to inform you that your high school library has many books where sex is described. These books are about young adults. Spoiler alert: many teens have sex. The book in question actually deals with the character feeling uncomfortable by how far the relationship has gone and it is worked out. I want this book to be available to my kids. If you don't, then tell your kid not to check it out. That's how libraries work. If you want to be really controlling, log into their library account (same login as their fcps computer) and see what they have checked out.

[Anonymous]

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There was no incest, rape, or torture in the book. And the book is in high school libraries (and two secondary libraries, but what are they supposed to do...only have content appropriate for middle schoolers in a high school library), so a 6th grader would not have access to it.

Do they really need this book? What are the redeeming qualities of it that require that horrible language?

But, remember, there is another book being discussed. The other is a graphic novel with extremely explicit pictures. Please tell us the redeeming qualities of that book.

And, frankly, I find discussion of fellatio between two fourth grade boys extremely offensive. Porn? Maybe not. The language is certainly graphic

In the eyes of at least one School Board member, nothing can apparently be too explicit or graphic if it somehow can be explained away as a means to promote acceptance of the LGBTQ community.

That line of thinking is unacceptable and needs to be repudiated. But don’t expect this School Board to speak out - some think of themselves as sophisticates who have no problem with this type of material and others live in abject fear of offending any of their main political supporters.

[Anonymous]

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There was no incest, rape, or torture in the book. And the book is in high school libraries (and two secondary libraries, but what are they supposed to do...only have content appropriate for middle schoolers in a high school library), so a 6th grader would not have access to it.

Do they really need this book? What are the redeeming qualities of it that require that horrible language?

But, remember, there is another book being discussed. The other is a graphic novel with extremely explicit pictures. Please tell us the redeeming qualities of that book.

And, frankly, I find discussion of fellatio between two fourth grade boys extremely offensive. Porn? Maybe not. The language is certainly graphic

The term “graphic novel “refers to the format of the book. The illustration itself is far from “graphic”. It is certainly nothing more explicit than one would see in a PG-13 movie, and it is a cartoon. A drawn cartoon. Like a comic book. So I comic book with one frame that illustrates the sex acts non-explicit way. I do understand that that may be alarming to your sensibilities, but compared to the steady diet of media with scantily clad people and explicit sex acts detailed, as well as the ready availability of pornography on any students phone or other devices,
It barely even registers. The only people outraged were shocked by this are the people who are hearing all of us described out of context without actually seeing at themselves because they are being duped by people who want to turn this into a giant political issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is simply disgusting that this school system sends kids to schools in trailers but still finds the money to buy trashy pornography to stock library shelves under the guise of being LGBTQ-friendly. I want this entire School Board replaced with normal, sane parents.

I’m sure it would shock you to actually be exposed to some rational facts, but the total purchase price of every copy of the graphic novel and question is probably under $50. Every single copy in the entire county. So, I find it hard to believe that the purchase of these particular books which clearly seemed to suit the deed of particular students served by the librarians who added them to their collection, would make even the slightest bit of difference regarding priorities for school construction. To my knowledge, It is not possible to construct a Classroom for under $50. To my knowledge also, the school board does not make individual purchasing decisions for individual books for individual libraries. You have been so thoroughly duped into believing that this is a serious issue that you were not even beginning to think in a rational manner. It is an entirely emotional reaction, which is exactly what the political operatives intended when they decided to raise this as a manufactured issue.

[Anonymous]

I definitely don’t want mt kids reading that shit or having access to it at schools. I doubt the books are coming back.