Boundary Review Meetings

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not a Great Falls resident, but I do think there were remarks early on by SB members that might have made one think they were on the chopping block.

And, to the poster a few pages back about the developers and Langley. That is absolutely true--we had a neighbor that moved to one of those developments on the Herndon side of RT 7 because it was zoned for Langley. That was their reason for moving there. Honestly, I was a little insulted--and I didn't even have a kid in school yet.

It wasn't just random remarks by SB members. The SB adopted revisions to a policy on boundary changes that suggested transportation times were going to be a big focus in the boundary review, and then Reid's consultants ignored the longest commutes in the county.

We all know why. Look at the composition of the BRAC. We know those people had a lot of influence. Look at the guy who got his neighborhood moved to Oakton. Reid admitted he was the reason that change was made.

I wonder about BRAC and that tiny part of Fairfax High that is in Scenario 4 for Chantilly. It is tiny. Make no sense.

Is that neighborhood City of Fairfax?

If they aren't, that is why they are being moved.

Fairfax City is its own entity.

I don't think this is accurate. I used to live at an address between Fairfax County Parkway and Fair Oaks Mall, and it was definitely not City of Fairfax. That area is still zoned to Fairfax.

It is correct.

Other neighborhoods can be zoned to Fairfax High School if there is space.

But if there is rezoning out of Fairfax High School, only non City of Fairfax homes can get rezoned out.

City of Fairfax homes are guaranteed a spot at Fairfax High School.

Fairfax High School belongs to City of Fairfax, with financial and some administrative ties to FCPS.

If needed, your old neighborhood can be resoned out of Fairfax HS, while City of Fairfax homes cannot.

Fairfax HS is owned by City of Fairfax. They have a contract with FCPS to run the daily operations of the school.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfax_High_School_(Fairfax,_Virginia)

https://www.fairfaxva.gov/Fun-Facilities/Facilities/Facilities-Directory/Fairfax-High-School

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

AAP students from Hughes have been attending SLHS for a while now, the IB numbers bump has not happened. Fifty kids completed the IB diploma last year. The Hughes students can transfer for IB or for Japanese, which they can take at Hughes and continue at SLHS but not HHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Great Falls (Herndon address) people tonight: "You owe me a good school because I paid too much for my house."

The guy who had his daughter read her script about why Langley was better than Herndon was pure cringe. Then the wife took over and had her spiel too to make sure she covered the "I paid for a good school" schtick. It was diabolical when Reid was like, "what was that, we couldn't hear you" after the woman's emotionally charged outburst about how terrible Herndon is.

Tuning some of these shrill nut jobs out is the only sensible response under the circumstances. Kudos to Reid for not engaging with them.

The way they go on about how much they sacrificed to live in the Langley district, as if no one else makes sacrifices to live elsewhere and is living it up because they don’t care as much about their kids’ education, is just revolting.

It’s ironically revolting to call a minority student who speaks at a FCPS meeting revolting. Stop mocking kids.

Being a minority isn’t some sort of shield from being criticized for being racist. Though I would save the criticism for the adults who put the kid up to it.

Old enough to remember the pearl clutching from posters last year when the EXACT same thing happened but the student was pro-boundary change.

Care to circle the square, or do your rules only apply for others and not yourself?

I generally do not like mocking students, in particular minority students, but it sounds like that’s not your stance. Do better, or at least be less of a hypocrite.

I don’t know what you’re referring to because I don’t live on here. My stance is that it’s a bad look to put your kid up to complain about how horrible it would be to get moved from their rich school to a lower SES school with a different kind of minority they don’t seem to want their kids to be around. It’s gross behavior.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

AAP students from Hughes have been attending SLHS for a while now, the IB numbers bump has not happened. Fifty kids completed the IB diploma last year. The Hughes students can transfer for IB or for Japanese, which they can take at Hughes and continue at SLHS but not HHS.

Historically how many South Lakes IB diploma candidates have been base school Herndon? This AP Herndon to IB South Lakes is the only one in FCPS that's volumes incoming for IB. Skip Edison because it has Global STEM.

Japanese Immersion is at Fox Mill and JIP also used to be at it's neighbor [contiguous boundaries]Floris. A merger but Great Falls with low enrollment/attrition still has JIP. Immersion MS transition for Japanese is at Carson and Cooper, not Hughes.
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/middle/world-languages/middle-school-immersion-transition-program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let’s think this through. If KAA is going to have 2000 students eventually, where are those students coming from?
Current #s
Chantilly 2900
Westfield 2800
Oakton 2600
Centreville 2200

Potential #s
Chantilly 2400 (-500)
Westfield 2400 (-400)
Oakton 2400 (-200)
Centreville 2100 (-100)
KAA +1200

Where are the rest coming from or are these Western schools going to shrink by a large number?
Projections don’t show a huge influx of HS students in .
the near future, correct?

South Lakes will be impacted for sure. Some of Floris kids go to South Lakes and it’s almost certain they will go to KAA. Potentially Fox Mill as well.

How full is South Lakes currently? If they lose some kids, will they need to backfill it? I wonder if some would get moved from Oakton to South Lakes to do that. It would get rid of the long bus ride for some Oakton kids though I bet they will fight that change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

Did it pass? That will make Irving even MORE crowded. Ugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

The motion passed that Reid must present a plan sometime this spring that would place AAP at every middle school. So the board has only passed making a plan. They haven’t voted on implementing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/advanced-academic-program-centers-considered-all-fcps-middle-schools

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:KAA does not affect GF in any way.

Per an anonymous FairFACTS Matters poster tonight:

"This is the setup to move Forestville to Herndon. First overcrowd Langley, then the shuffle for the new high school will leave Herndon with lots of space, then next year they will cry 'transportation efficiency' [and move kids from Langley to Herndon]." Funny

Paranoia. The new school has no effect on Herndon.

Of course it does. It removes the possibility that Herndon south of the toll road would be redistricted to fill the 500 empty seats at Herndon HS.

That also spawned the Fairfax County Federation of Citizens Associations letters on the KAA site as a magnet and the Oct 2025 letter against implementing AAP in every middle school with no transfers. That means Herndon MS AAP continues flowing to Hughes likely bumping the IB diploma candidate count, mega Carson Franklin feed, Rocky Run no substantive base school boundary changes so it can accommodate Liberty and Stone AAP. Research who is in FCFCA, current and past officers. Gerry Connelly got his start in that organization.

https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_d128de909f284981a476bef5d4429396.pdf
https://www.fairfaxfederation.org/_files/ugd/8bf868_5ebff0a2e8ef4d2eb2604f707fce5c34.pdf

Surely AAP at every middle school will pass.

That one is a no brainer.

With current FCPS leadership and School Board? That is a big ask.

It already passed. Keep up.

DP. I missed that vote. So they are required to make each middle school an AAP center? Is there a timeline for that?

The motion passed that Reid must present a plan sometime this spring that would place AAP at every middle school. So the board has only passed making a plan. They haven’t voted on implementing it.

I’m confused about why that previous poster said “It already passed. Keep up.” If the only thing that passed was the requirement to submit a plan.

It’s one thing to be smug and right, but to be smug and not right is something else altogether.

Anyway, I think getting rid of AAP centers has broad support across Fairfax.