Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:So there was a meeting in Lorton station December 17th. I missed that.

Where was that posted?

Found it: https://www.fcps.edu/about-fcps/maps/2024-2026-boundary-review/community-meetings-phase-2-part-2-fall-2025

They're exploring options for Hagel Circle.

It’s extra hilarious that they didn’t even hold this meeting at Halley, where Hagel Circle attends now. Do those families even have any idea that they’re slated to move?

They don’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

It's a small group of Crossfield AAP and sports moms who have a lot of time on their hands and have recruited their Oakton, Navy and Waples Mill friends to join a FB group and sign a petition to make it look like a huge portion of the Crossfield community supports staying at Oakton. Look in the FB group - I don't recognize 75% of the names.

Imagine these are SAHMs too who have nothing better to do.

Bingo! And run the PTO to boot.

You are welcome to volunteer and run the PTA.

I don't ever volunteer for PTA stuff, and rarely volunteer for other stuff beyond the really easy things like collecting tickets at events.

I will never, ever understand the vitriol from some people towards the moms who are willing and able to volunteer all those hours to run and organize things like team funraisers, school carnivals, book fairs, stocking the staff breakrooms, bringing in performers and authors for school assemblies, funding high school scholarships, etc etc.

Those moms put in a ton of volunteer hours, fill in gaps when needed, and often use their own money to do so, doing double or triple shifts when most parents (like me) can't or won't take the time to step up and do their part.

The only thing I think when I see posts like this slamming the moms who step up and volunteer, unlike moms like me, is that the post is dripping of jealously, guilt and resentment because those moms are able and willing to make the time to invest in their kids' school to the benefit of all kids including the kids of those of us like me, who can't or don't want to volunteer.

Slamming the PTA moms instead of just saying thank you or saying nothing if you can't get over your resentment, guilt or jealousy, just looks really small and petty.

If you don't like what the PTA moms do for the school, just quietly opt your kid out of every event, presentation, book fair or assembly run and funded by these hard working moms, or step up and volunteer yourself.

Me? I never wanted to volunteer, so I would just send a thank you and a check.

Woah, woah, calm down lady. I did not in any way "slam the PTA moms". All I said was that the RIO moms are on the PTO. You need to chill.

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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true:

PTA officials put in a lot of work and effort and time.
They don't always welcome all parents to help and can appear cliquey.

Eh, that second part just sounds like a sorry excuse for being lazy.

It's pretty clear that you are the Crossfield PTO president.

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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true:

PTA officials put in a lot of work and effort and time.
They don't always welcome all parents to help and can appear cliquey.

Eh, that second part just sounds like a sorry excuse for being lazy.

It's pretty clear that you are the Crossfield PTO president.

I promise you, i have no role on the pta at crossfield, i couldn’t locate crossfield on a map- don’t even know what pyramid it is in. I just find it despicable that you ladies criticize people who are actively involved in making your kids’ lives better, while at the same time not lifting a finger to do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can ya'll please start a PTA bashing thread instead of dragging personal social gripes that have nothing to do with rezoning into this thread?

Nope. When the PTO mom in question is abusing her position to advocate for something boundary related, then it's absolutely related! She had the principal send an email about that contained a link to her advocacy group and she's using the PTO email list for her advocacy group as well. If this was a PTA and not a PTO, I would report her but since these mamas chose a PTO, there's absolutely no transparency or accountability to be had.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true:

PTA officials put in a lot of work and effort and time.
They don't always welcome all parents to help and can appear cliquey.

Eh, that second part just sounds like a sorry excuse for being lazy.

It's pretty clear that you are the Crossfield PTO president.

I promise you, i have no role on the pta at crossfield, i couldn’t locate crossfield on a map- don’t even know what pyramid it is in. I just find it despicable that you ladies criticize people who are actively involved in making your kids’ lives better, while at the same time not lifting a finger to do the same.

Yeah the thing is that's not happening, nobody knows where the money is going. You need to shut up now because you don't know what you're talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:Two things can be true:

PTA officials put in a lot of work and effort and time.
They don't always welcome all parents to help and can appear cliquey.

Eh, that second part just sounds like a sorry excuse for being lazy.

It's pretty clear that you are the Crossfield PTO president.

I promise you, i have no role on the pta at crossfield, i couldn’t locate crossfield on a map- don’t even know what pyramid it is in. I just find it despicable that you ladies criticize people who are actively involved in making your kids’ lives better, while at the same time not lifting a finger to do the same.

100% agree.

Slamming specific identifiable parents on an open public message board, for the trangression of volunteering at their kid's elementary school pta, is an awful look for the people repeatedly posting about this school.

It makes the parents posting look bad, not the ones they are criticizing.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

It's a small group of Crossfield AAP and sports moms who have a lot of time on their hands and have recruited their Oakton, Navy and Waples Mill friends to join a FB group and sign a petition to make it look like a huge portion of the Crossfield community supports staying at Oakton. Look in the FB group - I don't recognize 75% of the names.

Imagine these are SAHMs too who have nothing better to do.

Bingo! And run the PTO to boot.

You are welcome to volunteer and run the PTA.

I don't ever volunteer for PTA stuff, and rarely volunteer for other stuff beyond the really easy things like collecting tickets at events.

I will never, ever understand the vitriol from some people towards the moms who are willing and able to volunteer all those hours to run and organize things like team funraisers, school carnivals, book fairs, stocking the staff breakrooms, bringing in performers and authors for school assemblies, funding high school scholarships, etc etc.

Those moms put in a ton of volunteer hours, fill in gaps when needed, and often use their own money to do so, doing double or triple shifts when most parents (like me) can't or won't take the time to step up and do their part.

The only thing I think when I see posts like this slamming the moms who step up and volunteer, unlike moms like me, is that the post is dripping of jealously, guilt and resentment because those moms are able and willing to make the time to invest in their kids' school to the benefit of all kids including the kids of those of us like me, who can't or don't want to volunteer.

Slamming the PTA moms instead of just saying thank you or saying nothing if you can't get over your resentment, guilt or jealousy, just looks really small and petty.

If you don't like what the PTA moms do for the school, just quietly opt your kid out of every event, presentation, book fair or assembly run and funded by these hard working moms, or step up and volunteer yourself.

Me? I never wanted to volunteer, so I would just send a thank you and a check.

Written by the PTA President

Nope.

As I said, I never volunteer for anything at the school, other than taking tickets once or twice a year.

With nearly 20 years of contiuously having kids enrolled in FCPS, I have never once joined the PTA, not attended a single PTA meeting, and have only attended the club and sports booster meetings that are the mandatory ones at the start of the season.

I appreciate the PTA moms and what they do for the schools and students, but have no desire to invest the time that they invest.

My kids don’t go to Crossfield but I have heard some people complain that the after school activities and some other PTO sponsored things are pretty lacking compared to some other schools. I’ve also heard the Crossfield principal is the type who is particularly influenced by PTO parents and what they want. We all know some people volunteer for the good of their community, while others do it so they can make sure everything is set up to benefit their own children.

No dog in the western fight, but just here to say you are the worse type of person. The one who will complain about somebody volunteering their time to help your kid and others while you sit idly by being lazy. Gotta be tough to have so much cognitive dissonance.

Who the hell are you to say I don’t volunteer for things? I work full time and would probably drop too may balls if I were on the PTO, but I volunteer for events at school and I am in thankless volunteer roles jobs for three of my kids’ extracurricular activities. Sorry you don’t like that some of us see through your selfish motives for taking on certain roles.

This is a rezoning thread, not a bash PTA moms thread.

The suggestion was that some bossy PTO moms expect others to fall in line with their views about boundary proposals.

Exactly. Certain PTO moms with strong views on boundaries tend to be the ones who aren’t very nice to parents outside their clique and are hostile to those who don’t support their movement.

The PTO president at our school happens to be a lovely person and has not been getting involved in boundary review issues. Probably because she rightly sees it as a potential abuse of one’s position.

She must not be from Crossfield.

Indeed I am, and I’m in RIO too.

Look, all Crossfield parents know who one of the RIO leaders is and we all know she's abusing her position to push her own agenda. It really doesn't matter if she's a lovely person or not, she's abusing her position to reach out directly to parents whose contact information she would otherwise not have and she's hosting meetings where she tells people that she is representing the entire school community.

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Anonymous wrote:Chantilly is just as good as Oakton. No one zoned to Chantilly "perceives" Chantilly as less-than Oakton.

True. But, others do. Just look at RIO. They are almost at Langley level in their elitism.

What's Rio?

Rooted in Oakton, a group trying to keep Crossfield ES at Oakton and not Western. They have a website and everything.

It's a small group of Crossfield AAP and sports moms who have a lot of time on their hands and have recruited their Oakton, Navy and Waples Mill friends to join a FB group and sign a petition to make it look like a huge portion of the Crossfield community supports staying at Oakton. Look in the FB group - I don't recognize 75% of the names.

Imagine these are SAHMs too who have nothing better to do.

Bingo! And run the PTO to boot.

You are welcome to volunteer and run the PTA.

I don't ever volunteer for PTA stuff, and rarely volunteer for other stuff beyond the really easy things like collecting tickets at events.

I will never, ever understand the vitriol from some people towards the moms who are willing and able to volunteer all those hours to run and organize things like team funraisers, school carnivals, book fairs, stocking the staff breakrooms, bringing in performers and authors for school assemblies, funding high school scholarships, etc etc.

Those moms put in a ton of volunteer hours, fill in gaps when needed, and often use their own money to do so, doing double or triple shifts when most parents (like me) can't or won't take the time to step up and do their part.

The only thing I think when I see posts like this slamming the moms who step up and volunteer, unlike moms like me, is that the post is dripping of jealously, guilt and resentment because those moms are able and willing to make the time to invest in their kids' school to the benefit of all kids including the kids of those of us like me, who can't or don't want to volunteer.

Slamming the PTA moms instead of just saying thank you or saying nothing if you can't get over your resentment, guilt or jealousy, just looks really small and petty.

If you don't like what the PTA moms do for the school, just quietly opt your kid out of every event, presentation, book fair or assembly run and funded by these hard working moms, or step up and volunteer yourself.

Me? I never wanted to volunteer, so I would just send a thank you and a check.

Written by the PTA President

Nope.

As I said, I never volunteer for anything at the school, other than taking tickets once or twice a year.

With nearly 20 years of contiuously having kids enrolled in FCPS, I have never once joined the PTA, not attended a single PTA meeting, and have only attended the club and sports booster meetings that are the mandatory ones at the start of the season.

I appreciate the PTA moms and what they do for the schools and students, but have no desire to invest the time that they invest.

My kids don’t go to Crossfield but I have heard some people complain that the after school activities and some other PTO sponsored things are pretty lacking compared to some other schools. I’ve also heard the Crossfield principal is the type who is particularly influenced by PTO parents and what they want. We all know some people volunteer for the good of their community, while others do it so they can make sure everything is set up to benefit their own children.

No dog in the western fight, but just here to say you are the worse type of person. The one who will complain about somebody volunteering their time to help your kid and others while you sit idly by being lazy. Gotta be tough to have so much cognitive dissonance.

Who the hell are you to say I don’t volunteer for things? I work full time and would probably drop too may balls if I were on the PTO, but I volunteer for events at school and I am in thankless volunteer roles jobs for three of my kids’ extracurricular activities. Sorry you don’t like that some of us see through your selfish motives for taking on certain roles.

This is a rezoning thread, not a bash PTA moms thread.

The suggestion was that some bossy PTO moms expect others to fall in line with their views about boundary proposals.

Exactly. Certain PTO moms with strong views on boundaries tend to be the ones who aren’t very nice to parents outside their clique and are hostile to those who don’t support their movement.

The PTO president at our school happens to be a lovely person and has not been getting involved in boundary review issues. Probably because she rightly sees it as a potential abuse of one’s position.

She must not be from Crossfield.

Indeed I am, and I’m in RIO too.

Look, all Crossfield parents know who one of the RIO leaders is and we all know she's abusing her position to push her own agenda. It really doesn't matter if she's a lovely person or not, she's abusing her position to reach out directly to parents whose contact information she would otherwise not have and she's hosting meetings where she tells people that she is representing the entire school community.

I don’t know who replied to you, but the PTO president I was talking about is not at Crossfield. There are a lot of PTO presidents who could be getting involved in boundary review stuff right now.