Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Agree Sony looks terrible here. It just looks like they were playing both sides. It also seems like a lot of pressure for the sex scenes came from that which is what Blake seemed to have the most problem with so not sure why she’s blaming Justin but then when she comes and says she’s uncomfortable on that they’re like oh well no process for that. Good luck!

The emails looked damning for Blake in terms of other Hollywood execs looking at this. It looks like she doesn’t listen or take direction and botched the marketing of the film. These are arguably, three of the most powerful people at Sony calling her a dumb-a—.There’s a reason why Blake has not worked since this movie and we’re going on two years….I guess she wants us to think Justin Baldoni is so powerful that he took her down, but I’m pretty sure she did it to herself.

PP again. Again, I'm not so sure. Giannetti was also asked about how the film performed and it's clear that the film exceeded all expectations in terms of revenues. Like just a blockbuster given how much it cost to make and how much movies like this normally make. Perhaps in August 2024 Sony was mad at Blake because at the time they viewed her as potentially hurting the film and causing problems for them by refusing to do press with Baldoni and because of how she handled promotion of her products at that time. But these are not people who genuinely care about any of that, and in the end the movie was very successful. People complain about coworkers in this way all the time, but if the outcome is very positive, people tend to forget about the issues like this (someone being difficult, someone creating more work for them) and moving on.

Also the depos from Hoover and Slate make it clear that Blake did not convince them to cut ties with Baldoni or to not do press with him. To the contrary -- they came to those decisions on their own, based on their own interactions with Baldoni and Heath. Slate appears to have started to tell her people she didn't want to promote the movie with Baldoni starting in 2023, while the film was still shooting. It really seems like she was the first one to fully turn on Baldoni and Heath and that by the time she wrapped her scenes, she was just totally done with Wayfarer. And Hoover had all kinds of annoyances with both of them throughout the process but then it was when she had a dinner with Baldoni and Heath in like April or May of 2024, before she'd ever even had a conversation with Blake (of any kind -- they'd met extremely briefly when Hoover visited the set but had never actually had a real 1:1 conversation at this point).

Sony definitely seems to have thought in August 2024 that Blake had poisoned the cast against Baldoni, but the depositions and the email and text record indicate that many people (Slate, Hoover, Alex Saks, the screenwriter Christy Hall, Isabelle Ferrer and the actor playing young Atlas) had all started to complain about interactions with Baldoni and Heath and were getting fed up with dealing with him WAY before this. Christy Hall was unhappy with him before filming even started because of a bait and switch he pulled on her regarding her co-directing with him.

I think in August 2024, Sony just wanted the problem that was this movie to go away, and they wanted Blake to shut up and play nice. I am not convinced that give what everyone now knows about the general sentiment towards Baldoni and Heath, and what happened on that set, that people at Sony would now say Blake was the problem. They viewed her as the problem at that specific moment in time.

So why hasn’t she worked in two years?

Her manager’s deposition said that after a movie this big she was expecting the phone to ring off the hook for Blake and that they didn’t get any calls. I’m sure that is supposed to support the idea that this big retaliation campaign ruined her career but is Justin Baldoni so powerful that here we are two years out there’s nothing on the docket for Blake?

Apparently she’s producing a movie called the survivor list but there’s no other cast or crew attached to that and her only other IMDB movies are ones that were last written about in 2017 in 2020 so it doesn’t seem like they’re being made.

Maybe you’re right that Sony no longer thinks she’s a problem but it seems like other executives do because no one is casting Blake in films since this one.

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Agree Sony looks terrible here. It just looks like they were playing both sides. It also seems like a lot of pressure for the sex scenes came from that which is what Blake seemed to have the most problem with so not sure why she’s blaming Justin but then when she comes and says she’s uncomfortable on that they’re like oh well no process for that. Good luck!

The emails looked damning for Blake in terms of other Hollywood execs looking at this. It looks like she doesn’t listen or take direction and botched the marketing of the film. These are arguably, three of the most powerful people at Sony calling her a dumb-a—.There’s a reason why Blake has not worked since this movie and we’re going on two years….I guess she wants us to think Justin Baldoni is so powerful that he took her down, but I’m pretty sure she did it to herself.

This, I would never hire Blake after all the stunts she pulled on this movie.

Most importantly, there is literally nothing in the unsealed material that it is actionable. Everyone on the set May gave thought Justin was a doofus, but that isn’t actionable or what she accused him of doing in the NY Times.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blake lied about the fat shaming. There is a text from her to someone she is complaining about her weight and she says “I actually asked my director to call my trainer and ask what my weight might be because n two weeks.” Explaining justin had to lift her and he has a bad back.

It was her idea! She is admitting she told Justin to ask the trainer about her weight to make sure it was safe.

The audacity of Don Saldino to blatantly lie about that and say the conversation was uncomfortable when Blake instigated. These people are truly terrible.

Yup, it’s all so ridiculous.

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I can now recognize the Blake bot’s bs multiple paragraph posts at a glance. So satisfying to skip over her nonsense entirely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

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Ew Blake called Taylor her dragon in text messages between them. Disgusting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ew Blake called Taylor her dragon in text messages between them. Disgusting

The text messages between them make both Blake and Taylor look so bad. No wonder Blake fought so hard to keep them sealed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

Stop with your nonsense, it’s a great resource for docket links.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Can you list the sexual harassment claims that are still surviving? I’m reading some of the lawyers on Reddit that it’s now shifted to hostile work environment and less sexual harassment. It seems like the narrative is now that he didn’t get along with people and that people were uncomfortable, but I’m not seeing any of the claims that were listed in the New York Times article (nothing about how she felt uncomfortable during the dancing scene, nothing about how she felt like she was doing unscripted intimate scenes, nothing about not being given time to pump our breast-feed privately, and nothing about the fat shaming.

The idea that’s it shifted is a pro-JB narrative. HWE and SH are intertwined. That’s always been the case. Those Redditors just parrot each other and fail to understand the SH is not SA. But it has always encompassed HWE claims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

It’s actually a neutral forum which is why the Blake Bots hate it. They are constantly outnumbered by logical people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Can you list the sexual harassment claims that are still surviving? I’m reading some of the lawyers on Reddit that it’s now shifted to hostile work environment and less sexual harassment. It seems like the narrative is now that he didn’t get along with people and that people were uncomfortable, but I’m not seeing any of the claims that were listed in the New York Times article (nothing about how she felt uncomfortable during the dancing scene, nothing about how she felt like she was doing unscripted intimate scenes, nothing about not being given time to pump our breast-feed privately, and nothing about the fat shaming.

The idea that’s it shifted is a pro-JB narrative. HWE and SH are intertwined. That’s always been the case. Those Redditors just parrot each other and fail to understand the SH is not SA. But it has always encompassed HWE claims.

Based on the unsealed documents, Justin should sue Blake for a hostile work environment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

Stop with your nonsense, it’s a great resource for docket links.

There are others that aren’t filled with pro-MAGA and manosphere bots. Sorry if the truth hurts but those are the people Baldoni surrounds himself with (both those he pays and his family/religious affiliation). I get that may be an uncomfortable truth for some of his supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because it’s been much debated here, Blake met with the intimacy coordinator exactly one time and it was to discuss her nudity rider.

Bumping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

Stop with your nonsense, it’s a great resource for docket links.

There are others that aren’t filled with pro-MAGA and manosphere bots. Sorry if the truth hurts but those are the people Baldoni surrounds himself with (both those he pays and his family/religious affiliation). I get that may be an uncomfortable truth for some of his supporters.

That’s just not true, but I know that you are allergic to facts that demonstrate that Blake has no case, and is generally an awful person to boot. Her texts are so bad, I would try to discourage people from seeing them as a Blake bot as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Which exhibit number is Taylor Swift's texts?

I don’t know. I’m on a Reddit forum called it ends with lawsuits where they post screenshots of the documents. But they also have a full list of all the exhibits and docket numbers if you want to go through them like that.

Please don’t use that Reddit forum for information. It’s known to be filled with MAGA trolls and manosphere types. It’s warped and horrifyingly misogynistic (while pretending to act like JB is some hero for the feminist cause). There are much better ways to access information on the case.

It’s actually a neutral forum which is why the Blake Bots hate it. They are constantly outnumbered by logical people.

No anyone who is neutral or pro-Lively avoids it like a plague. Surely you understand that right? That’s why those folks are now desperately spamming other forum populated by poster who don’t make this their life and screech about Blake bots all day.

Also there is a 100% chance that someone dumb enough to screech about Blake bots is a maga nut. Same trolling level of behavior.