Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:I am reading the exhibits in order so im not at the juiciest stuff. I read Coleen Hoover and Ange Gianetti. Hoover can't stand Justin and appears to have come to the conclusion herself. Interesting she says she wanted the movie to reflect the book, not much sex (knowing Baldoni elsewhere acts like it's filled with sex). Gianetti is more neutral, maybe the only woman deposed that the Baldoni supporters will like. She called Blake a f ing terrorist over the 17 point list.

Sony seemed to be the ones who wanted more sex scenes and a R rating. One of the execs pressure just to “bring the heat” and make it sexier.

And didn’t Blake at one point she wanted her character to be sexy? Not sure why Justin is being blamed for that.

[Anonymous]

I’m a Taylor Swift fan so it’s sad to me to see how much Taylor was involved in this and that she’s a liar. That whole statement about her not being involved in this and being busy on tour was a lie. Which fine but she’s also throwing Blake under the bus by not being seen with her? Damn.

One of Taylor’s best friends since 2008 and buddy who was in the Super Bowl suite with Taylor for the last two years is Ashley Avignone - she’s in PR - she was who alerted Blake’s PR team that Nathan and Abel had all these text messages about the Baldoni case!

This case gets weirder and weirder.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The make up artist's deposition describing the incident with Heath coming into the makeup trailer describes a much worse situation than I think has been previously described.

She says that Blake was naked down to her underwear because her costume had been handed out the door to the costume people, and that Blake was sitting in a chair facing the mirror in just her underwear with her breasts exposed, nursing her baby.

She also says that when Heath knocked on the door, all three women inside yelled no, don't come in, because Blake was undressed, and that he came in anyway, and Blake asked to do the conversation later since she was undressed and he insisted on staying. And that he was looking at her in the mirror the entire conversation, and he didn't even close the door behind him while he talked to her.

One of the makeup artists threw a towel over Blake's exposed breast just to cover it up, but she describes just feeling so uncomfortable and never having experienced anything like that on a set before.

Sorry, that sounds really bad.

Reading the intimacy coordinator's depo now and it also seems pretty bad. Justing frequently adding sexual content to scenes that wasn't in the script. Also the way he handled the scenes with the two younger actors sounds pretty bad, and the IC actually insisted on being on set for a scene that didnt' even involve sex (according to the script) because of concerns Justin would try to add initimacy to the scene with these two very young actors.

I haven't read anything else so dont' know anything about the Taylor Swift texts or whatever, I've been really interested in hearing from other people on the set for a while.

But the make up artist version of events directly contradicts Blakes version. first of all she starts off and says a few times her memory is very vague. So that is not great. But her version of events is actually much worse than what Blake described and I feel like why wouldn’t Blake have told the truth about this at the start?? Blake said that he was invited in and that while she was breast-feeding, he kept looking down and wouldn’t meet her eyes.

That’s not what the makeup artist says. The makeup artist says that he burst in after they screamed don’t come in -that is objectively much worse and I’m just not sure why Blake didn’t lead with that or that wasn’t in the New York Times article. So somebody’s not telling the truth here and it’s either Blake or the makeup artist.

Given the makeup artist is blatantly admitting she doesn’t remember much. I’m gonna take Blake’s version.

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Anonymous wrote:Let me guess, all of the stuff Blake said checked out and reddit is ready to hang Ferrer, Slate, and Hoover as witches.

Nope not the case at all. Lots of low grade complaints and nothing to support Blake. But she sure does a good job of demonstrating she is a mean girl with the maturity level of a middle schooler. Taylor doesn’t come off any better (and yes, there are Taylor texts, so apparently she’s a liar too).

The fact is this was a $6 million shoot and it was pretty clear the powerful players thought they could take it over from this “doofus clown” so that Blake could get some credit as a producer because she’s never going to earn that on her own. So she colluded with powerful people including Ryan and Taylor and it seems like they even looped Matt Damon and his wife in, Ben Affleck, and Bradley Cooper to go to the screening and say that they liked Blake’s version better.

Yes, it’s very mean girl but it’s also so very pathetic. Blake has been in this industry well over 20 years and this is what she’s been reduced to?

We’ve seen thousands and thousands and thousands of documents over 14 months. No evidence of any sexual harassment yet. evidence that people really don’t like Justin, but not even so much as a cuss word from him. No evidence he got angry, lost his temper, sent inappropriate texts, nothing. You would think for as much press as this case has gotten he bribed people for s-x on set or something. Which frankly is reasonably common place on a Hollywood set sadly, but no, nothing.

He offered her a body double if she didn’t feel comfortable and she declined. He sent a text asking Sony if they could rewrite a scene so she is clothed to make her more comfortable. Sony execs pushback, saying we want the movie to be sexy and “bring the heat” but Blake was not up for it. She clearly should not have taken this role. I don’t know if anyone seen the movie, I have and there’s very little Blake’s body in this movie. The one sort of sex scene of them she is wearing high waisted tights and none of her lower body is shown. She’s in a bra. It seems like sony executives wanted more, but Justin was on her side.

Finally, she reached out to the head of her WME agency asking if they could put pressure on Sony and Wayfair to push the body scenes out because she was working out four hours a day and she could not get her body where she wanted it. I have a lot of sympathy for her being postpartum but again she simply should not have done this movie. And I’m sorry, but it was only supposed to be like a four week shoot with her so when did it exactly did she want to shoot these scenes???? She doesn’t sound very bright.

She was clearly deeply insecure, and not in a good mindset. But that is not Justin’s fault and he seemed to be doing everything to help her.

I disagree there is no evidence of SH. I think the question is whether what is alleged can meet the legal definition of SH, according to a jury. Some of the depositions contain evidence that could be persuasive. It's really hard to say at this point if it can be proven or not, especially because the framing within the deposition does not need to be strict as it would be in court (in terms of hearsay or introduction of evidence such as emails, texts, etc.). It's very hard at this point to know exactly what the plaintiff's case on the SH question will look like.

I do think if some of the witnesses were to testify at court in a similar fashion to the way they testified in depos, a jury *could* find SH. It's cumulative, and you have to imagine what it would be like as a juror to hear from Slate, Ferrer, the makeup artist, Lively's driver, the IC, and then Blake herself, if that testimony was presented in a particular way. There are lots of pieces from all of those people that add up to a picture for Baldoni and Heath that could equal SH.

Again, if they can get it all admitted into court, which is a big if, especially for certain testimony and the supporting evidence. Not all of it will be allowed in.

Based on what I've read so far, the SH case is stronger than I expected at this point, but the retaliation case is weaker than I expected. I don't find Lively's expert to be as strong as I expected on the retaliation, and Wayfarer's expert did a better job in the deposition IMO, and on the technical issues it can really come down to which expert the jury finds more persuasive.

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Agree Sony looks terrible here. It just looks like they were playing both sides. It also seems like a lot of pressure for the sex scenes came from that which is what Blake seemed to have the most problem with so not sure why she’s blaming Justin but then when she comes and says she’s uncomfortable on that they’re like oh well no process for that. Good luck!

The emails looked damning for Blake in terms of other Hollywood execs looking at this. It looks like she doesn’t listen or take direction and botched the marketing of the film. These are arguably, three of the most powerful people at Sony calling her a dumb-a—.There’s a reason why Blake has not worked since this movie and we’re going on two years….I guess she wants us to think Justin Baldoni is so powerful that he took her down, but I’m pretty sure she did it to herself.

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Anonymous wrote:The make up artist's deposition describing the incident with Heath coming into the makeup trailer describes a much worse situation than I think has been previously described.

She says that Blake was naked down to her underwear because her costume had been handed out the door to the costume people, and that Blake was sitting in a chair facing the mirror in just her underwear with her breasts exposed, nursing her baby.

She also says that when Heath knocked on the door, all three women inside yelled no, don't come in, because Blake was undressed, and that he came in anyway, and Blake asked to do the conversation later since she was undressed and he insisted on staying. And that he was looking at her in the mirror the entire conversation, and he didn't even close the door behind him while he talked to her.

One of the makeup artists threw a towel over Blake's exposed breast just to cover it up, but she describes just feeling so uncomfortable and never having experienced anything like that on a set before.

Sorry, that sounds really bad.

Reading the intimacy coordinator's depo now and it also seems pretty bad. Justing frequently adding sexual content to scenes that wasn't in the script. Also the way he handled the scenes with the two younger actors sounds pretty bad, and the IC actually insisted on being on set for a scene that didnt' even involve sex (according to the script) because of concerns Justin would try to add initimacy to the scene with these two very young actors.

I haven't read anything else so dont' know anything about the Taylor Swift texts or whatever, I've been really interested in hearing from other people on the set for a while.

But the make up artist version of events directly contradicts Blakes version. first of all she starts off and says a few times her memory is very vague. So that is not great. But her version of events is actually much worse than what Blake described and I feel like why wouldn’t Blake have told the truth about this at the start?? Blake said that he was invited in and that while she was breast-feeding, he kept looking down and wouldn’t meet her eyes.

That’s not what the makeup artist says. The makeup artist says that he burst in after they screamed don’t come in -that is objectively much worse and I’m just not sure why Blake didn’t lead with that or that wasn’t in the New York Times article. So somebody’s not telling the truth here and it’s either Blake or the makeup artist.

Given the makeup artist is blatantly admitting she doesn’t remember much. I’m gonna take Blake’s version.

I don't think they are contradictory, actually. It's good that their versions are slightly different because it indicates that Blake didn't talk to the makeup artist and try to line up a narrative at any point -- what you reading the depo is what the makeup artist actually remembers. People always remember stuff differently. They also describe things differently, but similarly enough that they back up one another's story. Both recall Heath knocking on the door and the women inside saying not to come in. Both recall Lively asking Heath to leave and saying she would meet with him after she had finished in hair and makeup, and both recall Heath insisting that the meeting happen immediately. The makeup artist then says that she didn't really pay attention to what Lively and Heath discussed in the conversation because she was focused on trying to finish her work on Lively as quickly as possible. This is not a contradiction of Lively, it's just the makeup artist saying she doesn't know what they discussed because it didn't concern her, plus she was stressed by the situation and working quickly so that Lively could get dressed. Lively testified that she asked Heath to turn around and that he agreed to, but that he did wind up looking directly at her. And the makeup artist confirms that, saying she saw Heath looking at Lively. And then both women testify to the incident being very uncomfortable (the makeup artist uses the word "uncomfortable", Lively describes being "shaken" afterwards).

Both women testified that that after that incident, it became a habit to lock the door to the hair and makeup trailer when they could, to prevent something like this from happening again, so that if someone tried to come in, they would have to unlock it to let him in.

Their accounts really are not contradictory at all and hearing what the makeup artist remembered about this event that happened two years prior, and that her recollection closely matches Lively's and also hearing the details that stuck out there despite how long ago (how unclothed Lively was, the other makeup artist trying to cover Lively up at least partially with a towel, Heath's insistence on staying, and him looking directly at Lively in her undressed state) is quite persuasive to me. The makeup artist really does not have any reason to lie about this, and as you point out, she repeatedly says she doesn't remember when asked about certain things. But she was quite definite about what she *does* remember, and it matches up well with Lively's account in such a way that I do now believe this happened and that it was certainly a violation of Lively's privacy and was very unprofessional and transgressive on Heath's part.

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Before all this dropped this morning, did anyone read the interview making the mainstream media rounds with Blake? Someone was interviewing about her hair company but she had some really interesting quotes about Ryan. She went on and on about how they make every decision together, that he’s with her every step of the way and she doesn’t make a move without him. Beyond the supportive spouse bit - to the point that it was awkward. She even said something like when I’m making coffee in the morning, every step of the way I’m asking him, What do you think about this?

Which is just bizarre. But it almost seems like she’s trying to get ahead of something. Like Ryan may be trying to wiggle out of this lawsuit and she’s basically threatening him via the press, we’re in this together, bud. Or showing he is controlling her? Like she can’t make coffee in the morning without checking in on him every step of the way? I don’t know. I just found the timing really strange.

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Anonymous wrote:Before all this dropped this morning, did anyone read the interview making the mainstream media rounds with Blake? Someone was interviewing about her hair company but she had some really interesting quotes about Ryan. She went on and on about how they make every decision together, that he’s with her every step of the way and she doesn’t make a move without him. Beyond the supportive spouse bit - to the point that it was awkward. She even said something like when I’m making coffee in the morning, every step of the way I’m asking him, What do you think about this?

Which is just bizarre. But it almost seems like she’s trying to get ahead of something. Like Ryan may be trying to wiggle out of this lawsuit and she’s basically threatening him via the press, we’re in this together, bud. Or showing he is controlling her? Like she can’t make coffee in the morning without checking in on him every step of the way? I don’t know. I just found the timing really strange.

Sorry, here’s an article with some quotes. The headline People Magazine chose is “nothing I do is without him.”

https://people.com/blake-lively-calls-ryan-reynolds-best-friend-11888116

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Agree Sony looks terrible here. It just looks like they were playing both sides. It also seems like a lot of pressure for the sex scenes came from that which is what Blake seemed to have the most problem with so not sure why she’s blaming Justin but then when she comes and says she’s uncomfortable on that they’re like oh well no process for that. Good luck!

The emails looked damning for Blake in terms of other Hollywood execs looking at this. It looks like she doesn’t listen or take direction and botched the marketing of the film. These are arguably, three of the most powerful people at Sony calling her a dumb-a—.There’s a reason why Blake has not worked since this movie and we’re going on two years….I guess she wants us to think Justin Baldoni is so powerful that he took her down, but I’m pretty sure she did it to herself.

PP again. Again, I'm not so sure. Giannetti was also asked about how the film performed and it's clear that the film exceeded all expectations in terms of revenues. Like just a blockbuster given how much it cost to make and how much movies like this normally make. Perhaps in August 2024 Sony was mad at Blake because at the time they viewed her as potentially hurting the film and causing problems for them by refusing to do press with Baldoni and because of how she handled promotion of her products at that time. But these are not people who genuinely care about any of that, and in the end the movie was very successful. People complain about coworkers in this way all the time, but if the outcome is very positive, people tend to forget about the issues like this (someone being difficult, someone creating more work for them) and moving on.

Also the depos from Hoover and Slate make it clear that Blake did not convince them to cut ties with Baldoni or to not do press with him. To the contrary -- they came to those decisions on their own, based on their own interactions with Baldoni and Heath. Slate appears to have started to tell her people she didn't want to promote the movie with Baldoni starting in 2023, while the film was still shooting. It really seems like she was the first one to fully turn on Baldoni and Heath and that by the time she wrapped her scenes, she was just totally done with Wayfarer. And Hoover had all kinds of annoyances with both of them throughout the process but then it was when she had a dinner with Baldoni and Heath in like April or May of 2024, before she'd ever even had a conversation with Blake (of any kind -- they'd met extremely briefly when Hoover visited the set but had never actually had a real 1:1 conversation at this point).

Sony definitely seems to have thought in August 2024 that Blake had poisoned the cast against Baldoni, but the depositions and the email and text record indicate that many people (Slate, Hoover, Alex Saks, the screenwriter Christy Hall, Isabelle Ferrer and the actor playing young Atlas) had all started to complain about interactions with Baldoni and Heath and were getting fed up with dealing with him WAY before this. Christy Hall was unhappy with him before filming even started because of a bait and switch he pulled on her regarding her co-directing with him.

I think in August 2024, Sony just wanted the problem that was this movie to go away, and they wanted Blake to shut up and play nice. I am not convinced that give what everyone now knows about the general sentiment towards Baldoni and Heath, and what happened on that set, that people at Sony would now say Blake was the problem. They viewed her as the problem at that specific moment in time.

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Anonymous wrote:Before all this dropped this morning, did anyone read the interview making the mainstream media rounds with Blake? Someone was interviewing about her hair company but she had some really interesting quotes about Ryan. She went on and on about how they make every decision together, that he’s with her every step of the way and she doesn’t make a move without him. Beyond the supportive spouse bit - to the point that it was awkward. She even said something like when I’m making coffee in the morning, every step of the way I’m asking him, What do you think about this?

Which is just bizarre. But it almost seems like she’s trying to get ahead of something. Like Ryan may be trying to wiggle out of this lawsuit and she’s basically threatening him via the press, we’re in this together, bud. Or showing he is controlling her? Like she can’t make coffee in the morning without checking in on him every step of the way? I don’t know. I just found the timing really strange.

Sorry, here’s an article with some quotes. The headline People Magazine chose is “nothing I do is without him.”

https://people.com/blake-lively-calls-ryan-reynolds-best-friend-11888116

This doesn't strike me as weird or "trying to get ahead of something." It sounds to me like they are presenting a united front which makes sense especially on the eve of all these docs being unleashed, including all these details about stuff Ryan said about Baldoni behind the scenes, and the Taylor Swift of it all. IME very stressful situations like this tend to either bring people closer together or drive them apart. Based on the fact that there is not a peep about problems in their marriage at this point, I would assume the former.

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Blake lied about the fat shaming. There is a text from her to someone she is complaining about her weight and she says “I actually asked my director to call my trainer and ask what my weight might be because n two weeks.” Explaining justin had to lift her and he has a bad back.

It was her idea! She is admitting she told Justin to ask the trainer about her weight to make sure it was safe.

The audacity of Don Saldino to blatantly lie about that and say the conversation was uncomfortable when Blake instigated. These people are truly terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Before all this dropped this morning, did anyone read the interview making the mainstream media rounds with Blake? Someone was interviewing about her hair company but she had some really interesting quotes about Ryan. She went on and on about how they make every decision together, that he’s with her every step of the way and she doesn’t make a move without him. Beyond the supportive spouse bit - to the point that it was awkward. She even said something like when I’m making coffee in the morning, every step of the way I’m asking him, What do you think about this?

Which is just bizarre. But it almost seems like she’s trying to get ahead of something. Like Ryan may be trying to wiggle out of this lawsuit and she’s basically threatening him via the press, we’re in this together, bud. Or showing he is controlling her? Like she can’t make coffee in the morning without checking in on him every step of the way? I don’t know. I just found the timing really strange.

Sorry, here’s an article with some quotes. The headline People Magazine chose is “nothing I do is without him.”

https://people.com/blake-lively-calls-ryan-reynolds-best-friend-11888116

This doesn't strike me as weird or "trying to get ahead of something." It sounds to me like they are presenting a united front which makes sense especially on the eve of all these docs being unleashed, including all these details about stuff Ryan said about Baldoni behind the scenes, and the Taylor Swift of it all. IME very stressful situations like this tend to either bring people closer together or drive them apart. Based on the fact that there is not a peep about problems in their marriage at this point, I would assume the former.

Blake is always weird in interviews and this is weird. Saying you can’t make coffee in the morning without asking your husband every step of the way is not normal. Nope just nothing about that. Is normal.

There’s plenty of peeps about their marriage. Not sure if it’s true or not but there’s definitely gossip and rumors that things are tense and that they are spending a lot of time apart and fighting. How have you seen Ryan lately? He’s lost a ton of weight. Paramont has canceled three films of his and Deadpool 4 is not going to be made. I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a strain in their marriage.

The whole quote,” nothing I do is without him”….It’s awkward and clumsy and strange.

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Can you list the sexual harassment claims that are still surviving? I’m reading some of the lawyers on Reddit that it’s now shifted to hostile work environment and less sexual harassment. It seems like the narrative is now that he didn’t get along with people and that people were uncomfortable, but I’m not seeing any of the claims that were listed in the New York Times article (nothing about how she felt uncomfortable during the dancing scene, nothing about how she felt like she was doing unscripted intimate scenes, nothing about not being given time to pump our breast-feed privately, and nothing about the fat shaming.

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Anonymous wrote:Deposition of Sony execs are really interesting and kind of epic - the CEO of Sony, the president of Sony and the chief communication officers of Sony said this about Blake

- that she bought the bad publicity “onto herself” and then she insisted on “bringing drama around the film and it backfired”

- they called the decision to promote her hair products along with the film, “epically stupid, and she should know better”

Wow, sounds like no love lost between Ryan Blake and Sony. Guess they won’t be in any more Sony flicks lol

Those comments were not from depositions but from emails that took place in, I believe, August 2024. They were written in response to Blake complaining to Sony about the negative online commentary about her as the film was being promoted.

I have only read Ange Giannetti's deposition so far (I think other Sony people were deposed but if so I haven't read their depos) and she doesn't say anything unkind about Blake in what I read. She is asked whether she called Blake a "f***ing terrorist" in a communication after the meeting for the 17 point list, and she confirms she said that, but she doesn't say that's what her currently feeling towards Blake is.

I would not assume that Sony hates Blake (or Ryan) or that these comments reflect their beliefs now. Not saying they like her, just saying that since none of these comments were actually stated in depositions, they offer just a snapshot in time.

Also my sense reading the Giannetti depo is that Sony is more than a little defensive about the fact that they were aware of the many complaints on this set (Giannetti calls the production a "shitshow") but at no point felt they needed to bring in HR or legal or even raise the issue of whether there might be potential SH liability here. I think this reflects generally bad practice in Hollywood around these issues, actually, and is not specific to Sony or even this production. The idea that you'd have a production where the lead actress and another actress playing a major character are lodging multiple complaints about the behavior of not only the director (who is also the co-star and producer) but also one of the producers on the set, plus another producer also raising concerns is kind of surprising to me as someone who works in another industry and has dealt with similar issues. Especially when I consider this was 2023/2024, so post-MeToo, so I would have expected people to be a bit more careful and self aware, if only to avoid getting sued. I thought Slate's commenting to Justin about how people don't make those kinds of comments anymore were really on point and I think it's weird he didn't seem to get that. What a bubble they must live in.

Can you list the sexual harassment claims that are still surviving? I’m reading some of the lawyers on Reddit that it’s now shifted to hostile work environment and less sexual harassment. It seems like the narrative is now that he didn’t get along with people and that people were uncomfortable, but I’m not seeing any of the claims that were listed in the New York Times article (nothing about how she felt uncomfortable during the dancing scene, nothing about how she felt like she was doing unscripted intimate scenes, nothing about not being given time to pump our breast-feed privately, and nothing about the fat shaming.

Hostile work environment is sexual harassment -- it's one of the two main kinds. The other kind is "quid pro quo" which Lively has never alleged.

Her SH claims are all still standing at the moment.