DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

I hadn’t considered how insensitive and demeaning Maret’s mascot is, particularly for the French. Shameful.

Yeah, and the French race is a protected class.. historically so persecuted...
Somebody is out of arguments but their fingers are still running on fumes

Are you new to DC or do you just not get out much? The French are plenty persecuted in social gatherings across the city. Furthermore, whether the French are protected or persecuted is irrelevant. Would mascots named “Honkies” or “Crackers” be tolerable anywhere in America? So why would a racial slur against an entire country? And, yes, it is offensive. If you have any French friends, refer to them to their face with the name of your mascot - “this is my friend, Pierre, the frog” - and don’t be surprised when you get punched in the face.

FRANCE is a COUNTRY., not a race.. are you new to the world?

French is an ethnicity.

So a person born in France, from parents who were born in Algiers would not qualify as a frog?
Wow.. .
I mean, I knew Hardy Boosters in this forum were entitled, but to see it laid so bare...

It's an interesting question. My take on the slur (Maret's mascot) is that it is used in reference to all people of French nationality regardless of where their parents or grandparents originated. It's generally considered to be offensive, regardless. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with being "entitled".

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

I hadn’t considered how insensitive and demeaning Maret’s mascot is, particularly for the French. Shameful.

Yeah, and the French race is a protected class.. historically so persecuted...
Somebody is out of arguments but their fingers are still running on fumes

Are you new to DC or do you just not get out much? The French are plenty persecuted in social gatherings across the city. Furthermore, whether the French are protected or persecuted is irrelevant. Would mascots named “Honkies” or “Crackers” be tolerable anywhere in America? So why would a racial slur against an entire country? And, yes, it is offensive. If you have any French friends, refer to them to their face with the name of your mascot - “this is my friend, Pierre, the frog” - and don’t be surprised when you get punched in the face.

FRANCE is a COUNTRY., not a race.. are you new to the world?

French is an ethnicity.

So a person born in France, from parents who were born in Algiers would not qualify as a frog?
Wow.. .
I mean, I knew Hardy Boosters in this forum were entitled, but to see it laid so bare...

It's an interesting question. My take on the slur (Maret's mascot) is that it is used in reference to all people of French nationality regardless of where their parents or grandparents originated. It's generally considered to be offensive, regardless. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with being "entitled".

That's my point, it's a nationality thing.
Entitled is presuming that every French person is the same "Race"
Nationality = Racism works in a more homogeneous country perhaps, but at that point, it's still racist.

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

"We deserve this because we're so awesomely rich and powerful!"

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

An interesting thing about the DC law is that it doesn't allow for splitting. It's absolute: if you're a higher priority you get priority, if you're not you don't. So if the Jelleff program wanted to it could take all of the time, it's a DPR program and highest priority. It's a flawed system.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Hardy parents are suddenly wealthy. Hardy families are going to be very excited to learn that!

Especially the 40% who are economically disadvantaged. What a country!

Well duh. Not those. Look at the 60%who aren’t. I’m sure they fit into the upper middle class and probably the top 5% of income nationally. So to pretend otherwise is dishonest. Hardy parents, Kishan Putta, and Elizabeth ‘Louboutin’ Miller propping up poor kids for their own political benefit. Shameful.

You are seriously kidding yourself if you think
1. that Hardy families have anywhere near the resources of Maret families
2. that outrage about the Jelleff situation is limited to Hardy parents and supporters of two ANC reps

I suppose misunderstanding these facts is a big part of why Maret’s PR on this is so ineffective.

I’m just a regular old DC taxpayer with no connection to either school, live in a different part of the city, and I’m horrified. Feels like when the last chancellor skipped the lottery but lectured parents about improving their inbound schools. Rules are for the little people, the city elite do business differently.

Lol.. this is getting tired folks.
Time for a new script.

"I'm just a regular old dc taxpayer, and I chose to read 1000 posts about something completely unconnected to me and came up with this unbiased opinion."

Are you kidding? This drama is delicious, of course we’re reading these posts! But: Maret parents, especially this commenter who took the time to rip up four posts in a row, you are not doing yourselves any favors.

OP here.. not a Maret Parent, but don't like the entitled outrage here. Used to teach in various DCPS east and west of the park, and I'm just showing you what it looks like from the east.

Why do you think the outrage is fake?

Not all fake, but definitely entitled.
I'll believe that the intentions are pure when the Hardy PTA/O starts benefiting Alton or Beers or Bowen.

Would you like the kids at the BTCGW to bring in their piggy banks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

An interesting thing about the DC law is that it doesn't allow for splitting. It's absolute: if you're a higher priority you get priority, if you're not you don't. So if the Jelleff program wanted to it could take all of the time, it's a DPR program and highest priority. It's a flawed system.

Well, it would certainly make more sense for the after-school program to have the field all the time than for Maret to.

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

An interesting thing about the DC law is that it doesn't allow for splitting. It's absolute: if you're a higher priority you get priority, if you're not you don't. So if the Jelleff program wanted to it could take all of the time, it's a DPR program and highest priority. It's a flawed system.

DPR could split the field into different reserveable sections. The BGC would first priority for one section (as a programmatic partner) and then other sections could be given to DCPS and DC Charter schools.

So yes, the field could be shared if DPR was willing to subdivide the Jelleff facility. Which is what the BCG, Hardy, SWW, and other DC schools are asking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

An interesting thing about the DC law is that it doesn't allow for splitting. It's absolute: if you're a higher priority you get priority, if you're not you don't. So if the Jelleff program wanted to it could take all of the time, it's a DPR program and highest priority. It's a flawed system.

DPR could split the field into different reserveable sections. The BGC would first priority for one section (as a programmatic partner) and then other sections could be given to DCPS and DC Charter schools.

So yes, the field could be shared if DPR was willing to subdivide the Jelleff facility. Which is what the BCG, Hardy, SWW, and other DC schools are asking.

Under DPR rules they only way a lower priority group can use it is if a higher priority group doesn't apply for the permit. Splitting it into more units doesn't change that, there's no prohibition on a group reserving multiple facilities at the same time.

Of course, DPR violates its own rules all the time, every season. The fact that they make no sense is largely irrelevant because they're never followed anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

Yeah, the Maret supporters' argument basically comes down to "we deserve this." That's it.

And, one more time- Maret is the only organization trying to monopolize the field during its most useful times. Everyone else, including Hardy supporters and the aftercare program at Jelleff just want DPR to follow DC law when deciding who to allocate time to, rather than unilaterally giving the field to a private organization in a sweetheart deal. Splitting the fields after school between Hardy and the aftercare kids seems like the perfect solution.

An interesting thing about the DC law is that it doesn't allow for splitting. It's absolute: if you're a higher priority you get priority, if you're not you don't. So if the Jelleff program wanted to it could take all of the time, it's a DPR program and highest priority. It's a flawed system.

DPR could split the field into different reserveable sections. The BGC would first priority for one section (as a programmatic partner) and then other sections could be given to DCPS and DC Charter schools.

So yes, the field could be shared if DPR was willing to subdivide the Jelleff facility. Which is what the BCG, Hardy, SWW, and other DC schools are asking.

Under DPR rules they only way a lower priority group can use it is if a higher priority group doesn't apply for the permit. Splitting it into more units doesn't change that, there's no prohibition on a group reserving multiple facilities at the same time.

Of course, DPR violates its own rules all the time, every season. The fact that they make no sense is largely irrelevant because they're never followed anyway.

That shouldn't be na.insurmountavle problem and it can be worked around if the parties involved act in good faith.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

I hadn’t considered how insensitive and demeaning Maret’s mascot is, particularly for the French. Shameful.

Yeah, and the French race is a protected class.. historically so persecuted...
Somebody is out of arguments but their fingers are still running on fumes

Are you new to DC or do you just not get out much? The French are plenty persecuted in social gatherings across the city. Furthermore, whether the French are protected or persecuted is irrelevant. Would mascots named “Honkies” or “Crackers” be tolerable anywhere in America? So why would a racial slur against an entire country? And, yes, it is offensive. If you have any French friends, refer to them to their face with the name of your mascot - “this is my friend, Pierre, the frog” - and don’t be surprised when you get punched in the face.

FRANCE is a COUNTRY., not a race.. are you new to the world?

French is an ethnicity.

So a person born in France, from parents who were born in Algiers would not qualify as a frog?
Wow.. .
I mean, I knew Hardy Boosters in this forum were entitled, but to see it laid so bare...

It's an interesting question. My take on the slur (Maret's mascot) is that it is used in reference to all people of French nationality regardless of where their parents or grandparents originated. It's generally considered to be offensive, regardless. I'm not sure what any of this has to do with being "entitled".

I‘ve felt persecuted by a French waiter or two...

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Hardy parents are suddenly wealthy. Hardy families are going to be very excited to learn that!

Especially the 40% who are economically disadvantaged. What a country!

Well duh. Not those. Look at the 60%who aren’t. I’m sure they fit into the upper middle class and probably the top 5% of income nationally. So to pretend otherwise is dishonest. Hardy parents, Kishan Putta, and Elizabeth ‘Louboutin’ Miller propping up poor kids for their own political benefit. Shameful.

You are seriously kidding yourself if you think
1. that Hardy families have anywhere near the resources of Maret families
2. that outrage about the Jelleff situation is limited to Hardy parents and supporters of two ANC reps

I suppose misunderstanding these facts is a big part of why Maret’s PR on this is so ineffective.

I’m just a regular old DC taxpayer with no connection to either school, live in a different part of the city, and I’m horrified. Feels like when the last chancellor skipped the lottery but lectured parents about improving their inbound schools. Rules are for the little people, the city elite do business differently.

+ a million

Same here. My kids are in DCPS but not Hardy. As the parent of a kid whose rec team struggles to find field space to practice on, I’m frustrated. As a taxpayer, I’m outraged. And as a sentient human, I’m horrified by the Maret community, who’ve shown themselves to be truly shameless.

Another person in agreement here. It's pretty clear that this is a case of rich entitled folks taking whatever they want.

Well Hardy hasn't taken it yet, but they are not giving up.
Thanks for your support!

Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

I didn't form an opinion until I was forced to watch the testimony by DPR. I'm presuming that you got your information from a more biased source?

Forced? Have you reported it to the police?

Don’t call the police or the feds. They themselves may adopt the idea as an an enhanced interrogation technique. Hold a suspect in a room for two hours with nothing to do but watch DC Council blathering and grandstanding on a community access TV channel, and a person will confess to anything!

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The Jelleff issue should matter to DCPS and Charter parents even if they don’t have kids at Hardy. This is an issue that will come up again. SWW is struggling to find field space. Wilson HS can barely get any time in the Wilson pool. Same with Deal. Basis needs more field access. DGS and DPR are nightmare agencies that need to be held accountable

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The problem is that Ward 3 schools are overcrowded and will become more so, which means more kids chasing limited faculties. In Bowser’s latest housing “plan” she wants to add nearly 4OOO more homes in “Rock Creek West” in the next 5-6 years in part, she says, so more families will have access to the better public schools. A noble goal, but where is her plan to add more school capacity, fields and park facilities? And how would she pay for it? By requiring developers who would profit handsomely from zoning changes and new project opportunities to pay into an infrastructure fund, as some other jurisdictions require? Fat chance in the District of Cronyism.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Hardy parents are suddenly wealthy. Hardy families are going to be very excited to learn that!

Especially the 40% who are economically disadvantaged. What a country!

Well duh. Not those. Look at the 60%who aren’t. I’m sure they fit into the upper middle class and probably the top 5% of income nationally. So to pretend otherwise is dishonest. Hardy parents, Kishan Putta, and Elizabeth ‘Louboutin’ Miller propping up poor kids for their own political benefit. Shameful.

You are seriously kidding yourself if you think
1. that Hardy families have anywhere near the resources of Maret families
2. that outrage about the Jelleff situation is limited to Hardy parents and supporters of two ANC reps

I suppose misunderstanding these facts is a big part of why Maret’s PR on this is so ineffective.

I’m just a regular old DC taxpayer with no connection to either school, live in a different part of the city, and I’m horrified. Feels like when the last chancellor skipped the lottery but lectured parents about improving their inbound schools. Rules are for the little people, the city elite do business differently.

+ a million

Same here. My kids are in DCPS but not Hardy. As the parent of a kid whose rec team struggles to find field space to practice on, I’m frustrated. As a taxpayer, I’m outraged. And as a sentient human, I’m horrified by the Maret community, who’ve shown themselves to be truly shameless.

Another person in agreement here. It's pretty clear that this is a case of rich entitled folks taking whatever they want.

Well Hardy hasn't taken it yet, but they are not giving up.
Thanks for your support!

Hilarious. Literally nobody that isn't a Maret parent shares your point of view. I am not even at Hardy or in that feeder pattern. Every parent I've talked to across the city thinks it's disgusting.

I didn't form an opinion until I was forced to watch the testimony by DPR. I'm presuming that you got your information from a more biased source?

Forced? Have you reported it to the police?

Don’t call the police or the feds. They themselves may adopt the idea as an an enhanced interrogation technique. Hold a suspect in a room for two hours with nothing to do but watch DC Council blathering and grandstanding on a community access TV channel, and a person will confess to anything!

"Forced" because I was actually asked to watch the testimony to figure out if the DPR guy was wearing a hearing aid or was being fed responses.
Then I was pointed to this... wonderful forum