Biden's VP?

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Whitmer out? I’m a huge Warren fan too. Truly truly think Harris is strongest as AG especially with all of the investigations that I assume will occur. I think some of you are overestimating the importance of having a black VP. More than anything we want someone that can do the job. It’s going to be tough. Can Warren serve two terms without risk for the congressional seat? There is no one on tap to step up after her? Good grief.

The concern is a Republican Governor appointing a Republican as her replacement.

I didn’t understand that at first, thank you for explaining.

That would be short term. Someone like Patrick could easily run next for the Senate seat and take it back permanently.

At this point, Warren is probably not going to get picked. It is 147 days until the elections. It is too late to guarantee a special election for this election cycle. By Massachusetts state law, a special election needs to be called for 145-160 days after the vacancy. But since it is too late to have a special election on election day, the governor can appoint a replacement. Warren's seat is not due for reelection until 2024, so Charlie Baker can appoint a replacement who will serve out the rest of Warren's term, e.g until 2024.

That means that should Warren resign, the Republicans will get a 54-46 majority as soon as an appointed replacement can make it to Washington. And that would mean that the Democrats would need 5 seats to gain the majority instead of 4 (assuming that Doug Jones loses in Alabama). It would be very risky for Biden to pull Warren from her Senate seat. The replacement would serve for 2 years, half of his presidency. That's a huge sacrifice and a long time (half of his term) to potentially lose the Senate Majority.

Warren needed to resign 2 weeks ago in order to ensure that there would be a special election this year to elect a replacement instead of having Charlie Baker appoint a replacement.

I don’t even favor Warren for this job, but it drives me bananas that the Massachusetts state legislature, which has a Democratic supermajority, hasn’t changed this law so that the Governor’s appointee needs to be of the same party as the elected Senator he or she is replacing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Whitmer out?

Big Gretch was quickly exposed as a spoiled bimbo state school sorority girl amateur when the kitchen got hot.

Her father was the most powerful insurance executive in Michigan. He and his pals turned his out of touch sorority girl daughter into governor. There's no there there.

Michelle Obama would be PERFECT. Makes her a shoo-in to become first female potus, how could she not want that?

Whitmer served in the Michigan state legislature for fourteen years prior to being elected Governor.

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing to Kamala Harris. I think her look, charisma and credentials give be impression to many including me that she’s effective and detailed in her work and has thought through her positions and has a ton yet to offer. I don’t see any of that anymore, and she was a dud if we can tell it true during most of the hearings. No substance.

The candidates he should really look at are Demings and Warren. Different strengths but both truly amazing candidates. I love Abrams but I don’t think she’s in the running because of people seeing her in less-nationally notable positions- I don’t agree and think her founding of Fair Fight the minute the governorship was stolen from her should keep her top 3. But the world kind of sucks. (Exhibit A: Buttigieg was like soooo smart and special with his mayoralty; Abrams did and continues to do SO much more but...not experienced enough. Scoff.)

+1. I am Indian American and think Kamala is a dud with regards to well thought out policy positions.

Can someone explain, with details, the source of the anti-Harris sentiments. I’m in California, and I don’t think she lights up the stage with charisma or anything, but I think she’s a solid choice.
- She has a winning record as a candidate, in several races being elected as the first black woman in a position.
- She was the only state AG to meaningfully hold the banks accountable and get settlements for CA homeowners
- As a prosecutor, there’s no evidence that she was discriminatory or particularly harsh that I’ve found. In fact, I think she tried to use her role toward making the CJ system more fair.

I’m not saying there aren’t other strong candidates, but I don’t see her as obviously worse than anyone else...and maybe better in certain ways (e.g. her senate seat will remain safely Democratic).

The anti-Kamala stuff was from Bernie fans right out of the gate because when she declared, they thought she was his prime competition - this was way before Biden got in.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/27/us/politics/bernie-sanders-internet-supporters-2020.html

DP, I’m a black Pp on the east coast and wrote a pretty lengthy post detailing why she wasn’t first choice a few pages back. Black people are now worried about retaliation from racists. We don’t want to ignite more years of fighting and bickering either. The GOPs answer to a black man was Trump. Not to say we let them impact everything, but the reality is that the voter base will dramatically change in 10 years. We know a women, minority, possibly even gay candidate is a possibility. But THIS election - we need someone that can really help repair the brokenness in your country. Kamala doesn’t seem empathetic enough to do that and most voters don’t really connect with her. I like Warren but understood the risks posed in Congress. Whitmer was my next vote because of her age, her authenticity, experience in responding to Teump’s bullying (coming under fire from red constituents won’t feel foreign), and think she would fit well with Joe Biden. And I also don’t like that Kamala got two faced and threw jabs out at Biden when more than anything during the debates we needed to see a unified party. There are opinions from both moderates and liberals that express valid concern for Harris. I also brought up the risk of speculation around her “loyalty” to the black community. I don’t care who she dates, but a lot of people give her the side eye for dating/marrying white and prosecuting black men with policies that are against the BLM movement.

Kamala called Biden racist on national stage. Did she apologize ? Now she wants to be Biden’s VP? There are plenty smart AA females for Biden to choose to be his VP. Kamara can stay where she is.

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Big Gretch was quickly exposed as a spoiled bimbo state school sorority girl amateur when the kitchen got hot.

Her father was the most powerful insurance executive in Michigan. He and his pals turned his out of touch sorority girl daughter into governor. There's no there there.

Michelle Obama would be PERFECT. Makes her a shoo-in to become first female potus, how could she not want that?

I loved Obama but no, we don't need another one from the same family. This is a big country.

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He picked Amy months ago.

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What about Val Demings? Black, and a cop? Seems like a prime candidate to address police reform, no? Also did well alongside Adam Schiff during impeachment proceedings.

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Anonymous wrote:He picked Amy months ago.

Amy's not on the shortlist.

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What about Val Demings? Black, and a cop? Seems like a prime candidate to address police reform, no? Also did well alongside Adam Schiff during impeachment proceedings.

I'm currently rooting for Demings or Bottoms. I would love to see a strong black woman beside Biden, and Kamala just brings too much baggage I think.

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What about Val Demings? Black, and a cop? Seems like a prime candidate to address police reform, no? Also did well alongside Adam Schiff during impeachment proceedings.

Cops are blue.

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What about Val Demings? Black, and a cop? Seems like a prime candidate to address police reform, no? Also did well alongside Adam Schiff during impeachment proceedings.

I'm currently rooting for Demings or Bottoms. I would love to see a strong black woman beside Biden, and Kamala just brings too much baggage I think.

Different PP, but I would love to learn more about Val Demings. Disappointed if it is true thR Whitmer is an empty suit. For Demings, I like what I have seen so far. I watched the impeachment trials and it just struck me that she was that “someone” who stood out on the bench. I hadn’t heard of her otherwise. I think someone posted an oped that she wrote earlier in the thread too, and I was impressed with her perspective and writing. There is a lot of value that she is a black and a blue life, and may create a good mix if Kamala is AG. Like that Demings husband served as an officer and in a public service capacity too. However - again - police brutality is not the only focus of a VP. How will she measure with everything else? Will she help to repair foreign relations? Her congressional experience in representing Florida while they’ve gone through a demographic change is intriguing. I don’t know much about how effective she had been on the hill, but I do like that she seems to have the same backbone from difficult upbringing much like scrappy joe did. So I’d love to learn more about her.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Whitmer out?

Big Gretch was quickly exposed as a spoiled bimbo state school sorority girl amateur when the kitchen got hot.

Her father was the most powerful insurance executive in Michigan. He and his pals turned his out of touch sorority girl daughter into governor. There's no there there.

Michelle Obama would be PERFECT. Makes her a shoo-in to become first female potus, how could she not want that?

Whitmer served in the Michigan state legislature for fourteen years prior to being elected Governor.

She was the Michigan Senate's first woman Dem leader, and was invited to give the SOTU response. She's being widely praised for her handling of the pandemic crisis in her state. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2020/06/12/study-whitmer-stay-home-orders-saved-perhaps-tens-thousands-lives/5342143002/
Hardly a slouch. Ignore PP, who has some weird axe to grid.

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What about Val Demings? Black, and a cop? Seems like a prime candidate to address police reform, no? Also did well alongside Adam Schiff during impeachment proceedings.

I'm currently rooting for Demings or Bottoms. I would love to see a strong black woman beside Biden, and Kamala just brings too much baggage I think.

Different PP, but I would love to learn more about Val Demings. Disappointed if it is true thR Whitmer is an empty suit. For Demings, I like what I have seen so far. I watched the impeachment trials and it just struck me that she was that “someone” who stood out on the bench. I hadn’t heard of her otherwise. I think someone posted an oped that she wrote earlier in the thread too, and I was impressed with her perspective and writing. There is a lot of value that she is a black and a blue life, and may create a good mix if Kamala is AG. Like that Demings husband served as an officer and in a public service capacity too. However - again - police brutality is not the only focus of a VP. How will she measure with everything else? Will she help to repair foreign relations? Her congressional experience in representing Florida while they’ve gone through a demographic change is intriguing. I don’t know much about how effective she had been on the hill, but I do like that she seems to have the same backbone from difficult upbringing much like scrappy joe did. So I’d love to learn more about her.

There is a lot to like about her but I'd be very concerned about her lack of national experience.

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Whitmer is below average.

There are way more dem senators and governors who are competent.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Whitmer out? I’m a huge Warren fan too. Truly truly think Harris is strongest as AG especially with all of the investigations that I assume will occur. I think some of you are overestimating the importance of having a black VP. More than anything we want someone that can do the job. It’s going to be tough. Can Warren serve two terms without risk for the congressional seat? There is no one on tap to step up after her? Good grief.

Whitmer is out (and I am a huge fan) because she didn't handle her self all that well when she was being challenged on the pandemic.
Warren is non-starter because the MA Gov. is a republican and would be able to replace her with a republican.
Harris turned down AG under Obama. Why would she settle for that now?

Whitmer handled herself quite well - she's very popular as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is Whitmer out? I’m a huge Warren fan too. Truly truly think Harris is strongest as AG especially with all of the investigations that I assume will occur. I think some of you are overestimating the importance of having a black VP. More than anything we want someone that can do the job. It’s going to be tough. Can Warren serve two terms without risk for the congressional seat? There is no one on tap to step up after her? Good grief.

Whitmer is out (and I am a huge fan) because she didn't handle her self all that well when she was being challenged on the pandemic.
Warren is non-starter because the MA Gov. is a republican and would be able to replace her with a republican.
Harris turned down AG under Obama. Why would she settle for that now?

Because she had her shot at an executive position and fumbled. She might get a cabinet position. My guess, however, is it will be Susan Rice as Secretary of State.

How did she fumble, exactly? Did Cuomo fumble? She was actually more effective than he was.