DCPS students shafted again - sign petition to keep Jelleff field public

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Hardy parents are suddenly wealthy. Hardy families are going to be very excited to learn that!

Especially the 40% who are economically disadvantaged. What a country!

Well duh. Not those. Look at the 60%who aren’t. I’m sure they fit into the upper middle class and probably the top 5% of income nationally. So to pretend otherwise is dishonest. Hardy parents, Kishan Putta, and Elizabeth ‘Louboutin’ Miller propping up poor kids for their own political benefit. Shameful.

Hardy has some UMC kids (less so than the boundary, but some) and some poor kids. The stats are there and you can go and find them if you care more about reality than false rhetoric. What you'll see if you bother to find them is that the demographics of Hardy mirror those of the diverse city it represents. In a deeply segregated city, that alone makes it an exceptional institution. But it also brings challenges. And those challenges are exacerbated by the very raw deal it has received thanks to DPR and Maret.

Or exacerbated by the poor planning of DCPS and Hardy leadership. Was this sudden growth out of nowhere? Did Hardy leadership try to expand sports offerings without proper spaces? Did they plan with DCPS to grow the school and athletic offerings with spaces they had available? It seems to be a mismanagement from Hardy leadership on what they could offer, understanding what their population would be, and how to balance that with facilities. That’s not Maret’s fault. That’s Hardy and DCPS’s fault. There are plenty of DCPS schools that have amazing facilities. Jaw dropping indoor pools, turf fields, tennis courts. And they planned for that growth. Why did one of the wealthiest DC neighborhood public schools completely fail in planning for that growth? Who’s to blame? It’s not private school families or schools that are to blame for that negligence. It seems your anger is misplaced.

I'm... The City did plan for this eventuality. It bought some land across the street about ten years ago. Spent $22.5 million on it so far.

No. But nice try.

Huh? What’s not accurate?

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Anonymous wrote:Or exacerbated by the poor planning of DCPS and Hardy leadership. Was this sudden growth out of nowhere? Did Hardy leadership try to expand sports offerings without proper spaces? Did they plan with DCPS to grow the school and athletic offerings with spaces they had available? It seems to be a mismanagement from Hardy leadership on what they could offer, understanding what their population would be, and how to balance that with facilities. That’s not Maret’s fault. That’s Hardy and DCPS’s fault. There are plenty of DCPS schools that have amazing facilities. Jaw dropping indoor pools, turf fields, tennis courts. And they planned for that growth. Why did one of the wealthiest DC neighborhood public schools completely fail in planning for that growth? Who’s to blame? It’s not private school families or schools that are to blame for that negligence. It seems your anger is misplaced.

You have no idea how public schools function in this city and are not making any sense anyway. DCPS has plenty of issues and all of us with kids in the system have plenty of frustrations. But they have nothing to do with this issue, which is purely a consequence of DPR, Maret and - probably - Jack Evans.

Again, this seems to be a Hardy and DCPS mismanagement issue to look at. Did they not see this growth coming? Are there alternative spaces for Hardy to move to? Is a tiny triangle really the best place for a fast growing, high income middle school in the wealthiest part of DC?

You're right. Woodley Park would be a much better location.

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Anonymous wrote:I love that Hardy parents are suddenly wealthy. Hardy families are going to be very excited to learn that!

Especially the 40% who are economically disadvantaged. What a country!

Well duh. Not those. Look at the 60%who aren’t. I’m sure they fit into the upper middle class and probably the top 5% of income nationally. So to pretend otherwise is dishonest. Hardy parents, Kishan Putta, and Elizabeth ‘Louboutin’ Miller propping up poor kids for their own political benefit. Shameful.

Hardy has some UMC kids (less so than the boundary, but some) and some poor kids. The stats are there and you can go and find them if you care more about reality than false rhetoric. What you'll see if you bother to find them is that the demographics of Hardy mirror those of the diverse city it represents. In a deeply segregated city, that alone makes it an exceptional institution. But it also brings challenges. And those challenges are exacerbated by the very raw deal it has received thanks to DPR and Maret.

Or exacerbated by the poor planning of DCPS and Hardy leadership. Was this sudden growth out of nowhere? Did Hardy leadership try to expand sports offerings without proper spaces? Did they plan with DCPS to grow the school and athletic offerings with spaces they had available? It seems to be a mismanagement from Hardy leadership on what they could offer, understanding what their population would be, and how to balance that with facilities. That’s not Maret’s fault. That’s Hardy and DCPS’s fault. There are plenty of DCPS schools that have amazing facilities. Jaw dropping indoor pools, turf fields, tennis courts. And they planned for that growth. Why did one of the wealthiest DC neighborhood public schools completely fail in planning for that growth? Who’s to blame? It’s not private school families or schools that are to blame for that negligence. It seems your anger is misplaced.

I'm... The City did plan for this eventuality. It bought some land across the street about ten years ago. Spent $22.5 million on it so far.

No. But nice try.

Actually, when the Maret deal was announced in 2009 one of the selling points was that in ten years the city would own the Jelleff field free and clear.

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Anonymous wrote:Or exacerbated by the poor planning of DCPS and Hardy leadership. Was this sudden growth out of nowhere? Did Hardy leadership try to expand sports offerings without proper spaces? Did they plan with DCPS to grow the school and athletic offerings with spaces they had available? It seems to be a mismanagement from Hardy leadership on what they could offer, understanding what their population would be, and how to balance that with facilities. That’s not Maret’s fault. That’s Hardy and DCPS’s fault. There are plenty of DCPS schools that have amazing facilities. Jaw dropping indoor pools, turf fields, tennis courts. And they planned for that growth. Why did one of the wealthiest DC neighborhood public schools completely fail in planning for that growth? Who’s to blame? It’s not private school families or schools that are to blame for that negligence. It seems your anger is misplaced.

You have no idea how public schools function in this city and are not making any sense anyway. DCPS has plenty of issues and all of us with kids in the system have plenty of frustrations. But they have nothing to do with this issue, which is purely a consequence of DPR, Maret and - probably - Jack Evans.

Again, this seems to be a Hardy and DCPS mismanagement issue to look at. Did they not see this growth coming? Are there alternative spaces for Hardy to move to? Is a tiny triangle really the best place for a fast growing, high income middle school in the wealthiest part of DC?

Again, the Maret boosters are unable to defend the deal on its own merits, so they resort to throwing mud around to try and confuse the issue.

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Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

I hadn’t considered how insensitive and demeaning Maret’s mascot is, particularly for the French. Shameful.

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I stand corrected.. It was the Chair who asked him to define a "good" partner first ~7:58:30.. but the answer "They did what they said they were going to do" is fairly accurate.
You don't *have* to admit that you may be wrong, but I know your heart, and you're forgiven.
Can we drop this ridiculous charade of righteous outrage now?
Trump's still in office, and our DC votes may not matter, but maybe we should focus on fixing that somehow?

The outrage is real and easily explained by the fact that the quality of thousands of lower- and middle-class parents’ kids’ education is being undercut by the selfish behavior a school that predominantly educates the kids of very rich people and which contributes very little to the city treasury. That outrage is further magnified because it’s not an isolated case. A similar thing is happening with the Old Hardy school building and LAB and with Guy Mason and G.U.. People affected by these cases see that there is an underlying problem and find common cause to fix it.

Do you really think that the wealthy families who attend private schools contribute little to the city treasury? One reason wealthy families live in DC is because of the private schools. These people pay high property taxes and support public schools even though their kids don't use those schools. Do all you upper NW DC DCPS families really not understand how private schools benefit this area?

I knew sooner or later some joker would try and make the “they pay taxes” argument. My taxes pay for lots of services I don’t personally use. Private schools should pay property taxes.

If private schools have to pay taxes, they will raise fees. Some number of students will leave and attend DC public schools, most likely in NW. This will squeeze further the dwindling number of places for students who don’t live in Ward 3. While that will mean less diversity it will also mean higher academic achievement in those public schools.

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PP with maybe the dumbest argument yet.

Corrupt Maret (Ian Cameron as the easiest asshole to tee off on) and Muriel and Jack just so desperate to chase their money.

[Anonymous]

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I stand corrected.. It was the Chair who asked him to define a "good" partner first ~7:58:30.. but the answer "They did what they said they were going to do" is fairly accurate.
You don't *have* to admit that you may be wrong, but I know your heart, and you're forgiven.
Can we drop this ridiculous charade of righteous outrage now?
Trump's still in office, and our DC votes may not matter, but maybe we should focus on fixing that somehow?

The outrage is real and easily explained by the fact that the quality of thousands of lower- and middle-class parents’ kids’ education is being undercut by the selfish behavior a school that predominantly educates the kids of very rich people and which contributes very little to the city treasury. That outrage is further magnified because it’s not an isolated case. A similar thing is happening with the Old Hardy school building and LAB and with Guy Mason and G.U.. People affected by these cases see that there is an underlying problem and find common cause to fix it.

Do you really think that the wealthy families who attend private schools contribute little to the city treasury? One reason wealthy families live in DC is because of the private schools. These people pay high property taxes and support public schools even though their kids don't use those schools. Do all you upper NW DC DCPS families really not understand how private schools benefit this area?

I knew sooner or later some joker would try and make the “they pay taxes” argument. My taxes pay for lots of services I don’t personally use. Private schools should pay property taxes.

If private schools have to pay taxes, they will raise fees. Some number of students will leave and attend DC public schools, most likely in NW. This will squeeze further the dwindling number of places for students who don’t live in Ward 3. While that will mean less diversity it will also mean higher academic achievement in those public schools.

We want people to att Ms the public schools. A thriving public school system is super important for the health of the city.


And shouldn't Maret have planned for this? They're the ones who can control their own enrollment. I got a solution, Maret can became a charter school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I stand corrected.. It was the Chair who asked him to define a "good" partner first ~7:58:30.. but the answer "They did what they said they were going to do" is fairly accurate.
You don't *have* to admit that you may be wrong, but I know your heart, and you're forgiven.
Can we drop this ridiculous charade of righteous outrage now?
Trump's still in office, and our DC votes may not matter, but maybe we should focus on fixing that somehow?

The outrage is real and easily explained by the fact that the quality of thousands of lower- and middle-class parents’ kids’ education is being undercut by the selfish behavior a school that predominantly educates the kids of very rich people and which contributes very little to the city treasury. That outrage is further magnified because it’s not an isolated case. A similar thing is happening with the Old Hardy school building and LAB and with Guy Mason and G.U.. People affected by these cases see that there is an underlying problem and find common cause to fix it.

Do you really think that the wealthy families who attend private schools contribute little to the city treasury? One reason wealthy families live in DC is because of the private schools. These people pay high property taxes and support public schools even though their kids don't use those schools. Do all you upper NW DC DCPS families really not understand how private schools benefit this area?

I knew sooner or later some joker would try and make the “they pay taxes” argument. My taxes pay for lots of services I don’t personally use. Private schools should pay property taxes.

If private schools have to pay taxes, they will raise fees. Some number of students will leave and attend DC public schools, most likely in NW. This will squeeze further the dwindling number of places for students who don’t live in Ward 3. While that will mean less diversity it will also mean higher academic achievement in those public schools.

We want people to att Ms the public schools. A thriving public school system is super important for the health of the city.


And shouldn't Maret have planned for this? They're the ones who can control their own enrollment. I got a solution, Maret can became a charter school.

For profit schools (looking at you British School) should pay taxes. If you're trying to get non-profit organizations to pay taxes, the archdiocese would like to have a word with you.

[Anonymous]

I've got an idea... What if everyone watches the video and then come back to this forum with informed opinions.
Timestamps or it didn't happen people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've got an idea... What if everyone watches the video and then come back to this forum with informed opinions.
Timestamps or it didn't happen people.

Go watch the video lol.

Muriel is so thirsty to bow to anyone with money.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is a team with a racial slur for a mascot given preferential access to a DC-owned field? It's as absurd as what is going on in the WS right now.

I hadn’t considered how insensitive and demeaning Maret’s mascot is, particularly for the French. Shameful.

Yeah, and the French race is a protected class.. historically so persecuted...
Somebody is out of arguments but their fingers are still running on fumes

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've got an idea... What if everyone watches the video and then come back to this forum with informed opinions.
Timestamps or it didn't happen people.

Go watch the video lol.

Muriel is so thirsty to bow to anyone with money.

Troll fail. She wasn't in the video.. try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I stand corrected.. It was the Chair who asked him to define a "good" partner first ~7:58:30.. but the answer "They did what they said they were going to do" is fairly accurate.
You don't *have* to admit that you may be wrong, but I know your heart, and you're forgiven.
Can we drop this ridiculous charade of righteous outrage now?
Trump's still in office, and our DC votes may not matter, but maybe we should focus on fixing that somehow?

The outrage is real and easily explained by the fact that the quality of thousands of lower- and middle-class parents’ kids’ education is being undercut by the selfish behavior a school that predominantly educates the kids of very rich people and which contributes very little to the city treasury. That outrage is further magnified because it’s not an isolated case. A similar thing is happening with the Old Hardy school building and LAB and with Guy Mason and G.U.. People affected by these cases see that there is an underlying problem and find common cause to fix it.

Do you really think that the wealthy families who attend private schools contribute little to the city treasury? One reason wealthy families live in DC is because of the private schools. These people pay high property taxes and support public schools even though their kids don't use those schools. Do all you upper NW DC DCPS families really not understand how private schools benefit this area?

I knew sooner or later some joker would try and make the “they pay taxes” argument. My taxes pay for lots of services I don’t personally use. Private schools should pay property taxes.

If private schools have to pay taxes, they will raise fees. Some number of students will leave and attend DC public schools, most likely in NW. This will squeeze further the dwindling number of places for students who don’t live in Ward 3. While that will mean less diversity it will also mean higher academic achievement in those public schools.

We want people to att Ms the public schools. A thriving public school system is super important for the health of the city.


And shouldn't Maret have planned for this? They're the ones who can control their own enrollment. I got a solution, Maret can became a charter school.

+1. Seriously. They must have financial difficulties or the most incompetent capital planning team ever. A school with 45k tuition and they prefer to get raked over the coals in the media for keeping the field out of the hands of poor kids rather than looking for a market rate option.