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Anonymous wrote:Is it that hard for a club to be in ECNL? I just wish MoCo has more ECNL clubs than just BSC. I am not saying there’s anything wrong with BSC at all so don’t jump on me. LOL

There are over 100 clubs in ECNL currently. So no, not really.

[Anonymous]

^^ That said, BSC has been in ECNL for a very long time, a time when it was difficult to get into ECNL but times have changed.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it that hard for a club to be in ECNL? I just wish MoCo has more ECNL clubs than just BSC. I am not saying there’s anything wrong with BSC at all so don’t jump on me. LOL

There are over 100 clubs in ECNL currently. So no, not really.

statistically there are about 100 ECNL clubs out of >10,000 clubs in the country. So less than 1%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ That said, BSC has been in ECNL for a very long time, a time when it was difficult to get into ECNL but times have changed.

There is no way any club in or close to Montgomery county will be allow into girls ECNL. ECNL will protect their clubs. It’s a business.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it that hard for a club to be in ECNL? I just wish MoCo has more ECNL clubs than just BSC. I am not saying there’s anything wrong with BSC at all so don’t jump on me. LOL

There are over 100 clubs in ECNL currently. So no, not really.

statistically there are about 100 ECNL clubs out of >10,000 clubs in the country. So less than 1%.

And only 5% of players even care.

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Anonymous wrote:Is GA worth it? I’d love some honest feedback on the league in this age group.

I know that DA was a top league and it makes sense that there is good GA competition in older age groups. I’ve looked at the scores and schedules in GA U13 though, and it’s very uneven. Did Covid mess something up and it’s going to get better next year or is GA just not as much of a draw as DA was?

We have been really happy in ECNL Regional League so far. Good competition and the travel was manageable compared to friends at NCSL and CCL clubs. Next step for us is GA, but we could also stay in ECNL RL or try our for an ECNL club. My DD is U12, so it doesn’t matter to me how GA looks at U17. Just the younger age groups.

We like our GA team and coaches. If the team is blowing out most of the teams, like some of the VA teams are then you should look at switching. You should want to play teams that are at your level or better. Now is the time to start looking at other clubs. Make sure you like the coach because you will be stuck with them for a year.

If you look at GA, I would recommend looking at a GA club that has had some success and that has staying power. That basically leaves you with Arlington and FCV. I’m confident that Arlington will be around, and that its top teams will perform at a high level, over the next seven years whether that’s in GA or whether ECNL (finally) lets Arlington into the league over McLean’s objections. I’m less certain about FCV given the ownership change and the general insanity of whether their geography will change from Loudoun to The St. James footprint or not, but their past successes can’t be denied. And who knows what happens to Metro United, which seems to be organizationally struggling. And I’m not certain that BRYC, in ECNL, will be around at a high level in 4 to 7 years. But Loudoun, Mclean, Arlington, and VDA are probably clubs that will survive whatever the next two or three years’ madness is.

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Anonymous wrote:Is GA worth it? I’d love some honest feedback on the league in this age group.

I know that DA was a top league and it makes sense that there is good GA competition in older age groups. I’ve looked at the scores and schedules in GA U13 though, and it’s very uneven. Did Covid mess something up and it’s going to get better next year or is GA just not as much of a draw as DA was?

We have been really happy in ECNL Regional League so far. Good competition and the travel was manageable compared to friends at NCSL and CCL clubs. Next step for us is GA, but we could also stay in ECNL RL or try our for an ECNL club. My DD is U12, so it doesn’t matter to me how GA looks at U17. Just the younger age groups.

We like our GA team and coaches. If the team is blowing out most of the teams, like some of the VA teams are then you should look at switching. You should want to play teams that are at your level or better. Now is the time to start looking at other clubs. Make sure you like the coach because you will be stuck with them for a year.

If you look at GA, I would recommend looking at a GA club that has had some success and that has staying power. That basically leaves you with Arlington and FCV. I’m confident that Arlington will be around, and that its top teams will perform at a high level, over the next seven years whether that’s in GA or whether ECNL (finally) lets Arlington into the league over McLean’s objections. I’m less certain about FCV given the ownership change and the general insanity of whether their geography will change from Loudoun to The St. James footprint or not, but their past successes can’t be denied. And who knows what happens to Metro United, which seems to be organizationally struggling. And I’m not certain that BRYC, in ECNL, will be around at a high level in 4 to 7 years. But Loudoun, Mclean, Arlington, and VDA are probably clubs that will survive whatever the next two or three years’ madness is.

My DH gathers from his meetings ECNL would like to revamp the structure and boot some underperforming teams like BRYC and Loudoun. They don’t serve the purpose and diminish the brand.

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

I want to make sure I understand what you just said. Parents of star players typically don’t have good relationships with coaches. This would mean that parent of mediocre to average players establish relationships with coaches in order fo their DC to be on the team or get playing time. Am I correct in interpreting what you said?

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It’s natural if a coach has favorites on a team but he/she should not make it that obvious at the detriment to the rest of the team.

Sometimes a coach might seem to show favorites if/when they player is very coachable, listens to the coach and focuses during practices. Unfortunately, some players routinely shows up show up late to games & practices and fools around too much but their parents would complain why their DC is not on the coach’s favorite list.

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

I want to make sure I understand what you just said. Parents of star players typically don’t have good relationships with coaches. This would mean that parent of mediocre to average players establish relationships with coaches in order fo their DC to be on the team or get playing time. Am I correct in interpreting what you said?

Uh no, your next step does not follow one bit for anybody but sociopaths. There are plenty of parents who don’t care about their relationships with coaches or who don’t use every opportunity to promote their children. There are also plenty of coaches who don’t care about parental relationships at all. Must be tough out there in McLean.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

I want to make sure I understand what you just said. Parents of star players typically don’t have good relationships with coaches. This would mean that parent of mediocre to average players establish relationships with coaches in order fo their DC to be on the team or get playing time. Am I correct in interpreting what you said?

Uh no, your next step does not follow one bit for anybody but sociopaths. There are plenty of parents who don’t care about their relationships with coaches or who don’t use every opportunity to promote their children. There are also plenty of coaches who don’t care about parental relationships at all. Must be tough out there in McLean.

Conversation is about Potomac.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

I want to make sure I understand what you just said. Parents of star players typically don’t have good relationships with coaches. This would mean that parent of mediocre to average players establish relationships with coaches in order fo their DC to be on the team or get playing time. Am I correct in interpreting what you said?

Uh no, your next step does not follow one bit for anybody but sociopaths. There are plenty of parents who don’t care about their relationships with coaches or who don’t use every opportunity to promote their children. There are also plenty of coaches who don’t care about parental relationships at all. Must be tough out there in McLean.

I agree. It’s much more important for the players to establish a rapport with the coaches.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Marylanders, how are the 2008G coaches at Potomac? Are they screamers? For this age group, I believe Potomac has two teams and two coaches. Any information would be very beneficial.

The top 2008 team finished the fall at the 2nd from the bottom USYS EDP Division I. They had 5 goals for and 15 against. The coach might not be a yeller but only cares about two players. I personally know of two players leaving after the spring season. The second team is one of the least competitive in the state of Maryland. So, if you are in the market for a 2nd tier EDP team or bottom stage EDP, then Potomac is a good fit.

To answer the other parents question about Bethesda White which is now Bethesda ECNL II (Regional League), they are currently in between the Potomac 1st and 2nd team which isn't very good. Their coach is also yeller but female. The bright side of this team is since they are are affiliated with ECNL, they may draw in better players. They also will take-in the ECNL players that get moved down.

Metro United GA has a decent 2008 team but it is unknown how many 2009s will be moved back on age or leave the club. They probably have the most upside currently because the coach is well liked. Roster spots for above average players will likely be available moving into next fall. You can probably expect a middle of the group finish in the GA League.

None of these clubs however hold a candle to Bethesda ECNL, McLean ECNL, or FCV GA. Both Bethesda and FCV have very tough "Abusive" coaches. McLean coach is excellent and not abusive, however, players are taught to play physical to the point that they are dirty players. CW does push this philosophy.

I am guessing other top clubs are likely too far of a commute.

Pick your poison.

A coach favoring certain players is nothing new. But the question is: are these two players more talented and do they get more playing time compared to the other players? Or is this favoritism based upon the parents relationship with the coach and/or the club?

No other team parents are in an objective position to assess this. From what I have seen as both teammate and parent, very few parents of true star players have good relationships with coaches.

I want to make sure I understand what you just said. Parents of star players typically don’t have good relationships with coaches. This would mean that parent of mediocre to average players establish relationships with coaches in order fo their DC to be on the team or get playing time. Am I correct in interpreting what you said?

Uh no, your next step does not follow one bit for anybody but sociopaths. There are plenty of parents who don’t care about their relationships with coaches or who don’t use every opportunity to promote their children. There are also plenty of coaches who don’t care about parental relationships at all. Must be tough out there in McLean.

Conversation is about Potomac.

This is very interesting. When talking about Potomac, no one cares. But once someone brings up DG or BSC, all types of critics and defenders comes out. LOL