Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

**sounds to me like the rockshire/fallsmead community has spoken. I read it as the point is that is NOT the voice of the cluster but like the other poster, this again proves the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

Are you using other ways of knowing again?

I have no idea what you’re asking so I’ll take a few minutes to explain. Sigh.

Let’s pretend the entire cluster is 100 families. Then if 30% of those families who live within the walk zone (that’s 30 families) attended one meeting. And let’s say another 8% from north Potomac also attended that meeting (that’s 8 families). Keep in mind this was advertised as an “anti-H meeting” so attendance from north Potomac was significantly less. If the majority range from against it to hate it, that would make sense coming from 100% of the 30% coming from the walk zone. If the remaining 8% are neutral, didn’t leave a note, or had a few that also are anti-H that would give the PERCEPTION that the community has spoken. But your data pool is heavily biased from the start. Now do you get it?

(I feel I need to note for you that these are not real numbers but generalities to make a point).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

I was also there. Were you the woman in red screaming at the front? If not, what is your take on that? Didn’t happen? Because THAT was crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

**sounds to me like the rockshire/fallsmead community has spoken. I read it as the point is that is NOT the voice of the cluster but like the other poster, this again proves the point.

Everyone was invited to attended the Wootton town hall. What’s your suggestion, do you want to dispatch people door to door and do a poll?

Dufief was there at the meeting btw.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

I won’t teach you about proportions, so, agree to disagree.

**sounds to me like the rockshire/fallsmead community has spoken. I read it as the point is that is NOT the voice of the cluster but like the other poster, this again proves the point.

Everyone was invited to attended the Wootton town hall. What’s your suggestion, do you want to dispatch people door to door and do a poll?

Dufief was there at the meeting btw.

…you mean recreate the boundary survey?

I’m a stone mill parent but I know some of Dufief was there. That’s probably the 8 families 🤣

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

It sounds like Dufief only then. Most people I know in Stonemill and travilah want Wootton stay in Wootton pkwy

I am a stone mill parent but it sounds like we need the proportions guy to chime in. “If most of the people I know in stone mill and travilah want Wootton to stay, and I know 10% of all the families, does that a majority make?”

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To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

We apparently are not allowed to talk about this or care about this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

Except it actually doesn’t go away if you keep the feeder schools together, even at crown. You won’t lose your rep by adding an additional 1-2 elementary schools, even if they aren’t filled with the same baby Einstein as the current Wootton elementary schools…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

Non wootton here but I know that is a concern including us in decaying school zones impacting our values, too. It’s a shame it has come to this. Meanwhile, I just want to meet the guy that knows everyone at travilah and stone mill. Maybe knows someone at dufief or Lakewood, too? Sounds like a popular guy to be able to speak for all!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

Your property value will not change because of the schools. Really, there are homes for 800K, that is pretty typical in most neighborhoods, even ones you consider the ghetto.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

We apparently are not allowed to talk about this or care about this.

Do you really think your property value is solely tied to the schools? NO, just your ego is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

Your property value will not change because of the schools. Really, there are homes for 800K, that is pretty typical in most neighborhoods, even ones you consider the ghetto.

Are you serious? Are you implying that you will pay the same price for the same house no matter what school? give me a break.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To remind everyone of something that should be obvious: It does not matter whether you are in the walk zone or North Potomac; a decent part of your property value is due to the fact that you are zoned for Wootton. If Wootton goes away that school premium goes away. I realize this will delight the trolls but this comes as part of the package.

With the exception of the houses that are a really close walk to the current location, homebuyers aren't going to care if a school changes its address and has a fairly small boundary change. All of this "Oh no it won't be Wootton anymore!!!"stuff is ridiculous.