Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes - the Wootton cluster is finally getting worked up. Hopefully it is not too late.

With regard to your almighty Churchill comments: You are exactly right. Churchill is unified and they take pride in their school. They are defending Wayside and Potomac. Perhaps Wootton can stick together in the same way?

The only approach that will work is to fight to keep Wootton, fully as Wootton (that is what the almighty Churchill would do). You start compromising on the name, and jettisoning elementary schools and we are headed for closure.

Part of the issue was that Churchill had only one maybe two schools in question and it was all mostly the same goal.

Wootton is dealing with an entire cluster, with the feeder schools at different locations relative to the new Crown site and the current Wootton site. Since the area is broader, the range of what people are supporting or opposing is broader too. When the question used to be just one or two schools, the Wootton cluster did circle the wagons and insist on keeping all of it's schools. It's one of the things that some posters are saying the Wootton cluster whined about.

Exactly. No other school or cluster has been threatened with closure. What makes Wootton different? It’s the one mcps school with the most amount of Asians kids. As this thread shows, Asians kids aren’t diverse. Guess they are white? Asian kids according to this thread can also be used as tools to increase test scores.

O wait that’s why this is a civil rights issue.

Do you even understand what diverse means? Diverse doesn't equal minority - it means a variety.

So yes, Wootton is not diverse since majority are White and Asian.

Same with QO - the majority is White and Hispanic.

Same with Gaithersburg - majority Hispanic and Black.

All these schools need other races.

Wootton needs to have more Black and Hispanic QO needs more Asians and Black
Gaithersburg needs more White and Asians

That will make these schools diverse.

It’s unfortunate that people rarely point their fingers at the truly wealthy schools that lack diversity, like Whitman and Churchill. Instead, Wootton becomes the easy target

The reality is that the locations of those schools make it very hard to do anything about it without dramatic changes to housing policy. The same isn't true of Wootton.

BCC is in the same type of location as Wootton (closer to high farm schools) but not touched. It’s only because Taylor graduated there?

I'm sure Taylor is biased to BCC, but how do you move BCC students? Blair and Einstein are severely overcrowded; there isn't another DCC school in lower Silver Spring, so the only option would be Woodward.

Option 1-4 has all kids of scenarios of moving Whitman and BCC kids. Go look at it and you will understand how they can be moved

Those have all been presented as a result of fait accompli. They started building Crown before really doing any studies or anything.

Building crown made sense. They were given the land and its in a central location.

Only by relying on pre-COVID projected enrollment numbers. That’s one of the mistakes MCPS is trying to mask by moving Wootton. MCPS also doesn’t want the embarrassment of using a brand new building as a holding school.

Why not? That's what they're doing right now with Woodward.

Agreed. Crown should be a holding school so that the worse off schools the trolls on this thread say exist can get their renovations. MCPS will have a full Crown. Isn’t that what they want? Or do they want “add Asians, instant reputation” as a top school?

Asians are not all smart. So, do you kick out the B, C and special needs kids. Wootton isn’t diverse.

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A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

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Anonymous wrote:A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

They can keep both schools open but Wootton will have to wait their turn for major repairs. The demands are for an immediate fix.

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

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Anonymous wrote:A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

They can keep both schools open but Wootton will have to wait their turn for major repairs. The demands are for an immediate fix.

Keeping the funds for the immediate fixes aside, does MCPS have the money to support two high schools with neither near capacity? Should they spend money on this?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

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Anonymous wrote:A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

They can keep both schools open but Wootton will have to wait their turn for major repairs. The demands are for an immediate fix.

Keeping the funds for the immediate fixes aside, does MCPS have the money to support two high schools with neither near capacity? Should they spend money on this?

Why not they have money for portable trailers, I mean classrooms. Can't afford to build a building gotta go with those disposable classrooms.

Wouldn't it be nice if Wootton were like double wide. Want it down three miles down the road just hitch it up to tractor trailer. Don't need it anymore, take it to the recycling... I mean dump.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

This is a crazy take. I was at that meeting. Every participant was encouraged to turn in a note w their opinions and thoughts. Over 400 notes were turned in that day. The Wootton PTSA painstakingly documented every one of these notes. 5% of the over 400 notes were neutral on H. 2% was for H.

You’ll never get an entire cluster to agree to anything, including the color of the sky. But if only 5% are neutral on H and 2% is for H AND THE REST vary from against to we absolutely hate it—the community has spoken.

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Anonymous wrote:A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

They can keep both schools open but Wootton will have to wait their turn for major repairs. The demands are for an immediate fix.

Keeping the funds for the immediate fixes aside, does MCPS have the money to support two high schools with neither near capacity? Should they spend money on this?

Why not they have money for portable trailers, I mean classrooms. Can't afford to build a building gotta go with those disposable classrooms.

Wouldn't it be nice if Wootton were like double wide. Want it down three miles down the road just hitch it up to tractor trailer. Don't need it anymore, take it to the recycling... I mean dump.

What on earth? Can you answer the question? Should a school system pay to run two discrete high schools when all could fit into one?

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Anonymous wrote:A few things: 1) Adam Van Grack is a main driver of this diviciveness and should be ashamed of his words and actions 2) Does the Wootton cluster want MCPS to fund both Wootton (on Wootton Parkway) and Crown--not just in terms of repairs but annual operating budget, knowing that MCPS does not have the money for this?

If not, then really what Wootton families are saying is that BOE should pick them over Gaithersburg. I don't have a problem with it personally, but let's just call it what it is.

Then why on earth MCPS built crown, not even having the operational budget for it? Is it decided long time ago to replace Wootton?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"the rest of us are ok with it"

Just clarifying that you are ok with A) The Wootton building never again being used for the cluster. B) The Wootton name going away and. C) Combining the Wootton cluster with 1,000 kids outside the cluster.

I realize the benefit of a new building but isn't this a steep price? and of course it is a permanent closure of Wootton. While I pointed out that there are differing points of view, I don't think the majority of the Wootton community favors closing Wootton

How do you know how the rest of the cluster feels when the obnoxious falls me and Lakewood crew have never asked. We have held our own meetings and I don’t recall seeing anybody there who represented those neighborhoods. We’re on message boards and chats and I can say firmly in the past several months, not one person has asked how the rest of us feel. Have you?? I also attended the Townhall at Wootton when absolutely anyone with a different point of view was literally cut off or yelled at. There were participants that yelled at the people who handed out data reports that said crown was the only safe environment option. They screamed at them like it was a bias when in fact get real, that is the truth.

Them Then the rest of you need your own meetings and speak up.

Read above comment again. WE HAVE HELD OUR OWN MEETINGS and no one from the walk zone attended. The group is speaking up and voicing their needs in a way that doesn’t isolate us from the rest of the county.

Lack of hearing the other side much? lol case in point.

Not th poster you are responding to, but you make no sense. They said they held their own local meetings and attended those in other locations. Clearly they actually are trying to hear other viewpoints. Not sharing them is allowed.

I made the original post so I will clarify because you are incorrect.

Unlike the anti-H Woottoners, us in north Potomac have held our own meetings. Anti-H didn’t bother to come. Instead, north Potomac came to anti-H meetings to learn more and discuss. North Potomac people were actually yelled at if a differing opinion was raised. North Potomac witnessed anti H yelling about data sheets that identified crown as their only safe environment option. Anti H yelled more.

It sounds like Dufief only then. Most people I know in Stonemill and travilah want Wootton stay in Wootton pkwy