Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:Why Fox Mill do not request AP at SLHS.

Even if they did, SLHS families wanted IB and in many cases moved close to the school specifically for IB.

Plenty do ask and have asked since the school was moved. And they are ignored. And they pupil place out to other schools. You don’t notice because Herndon HS kids pupil place at SLHS because their friends from AAP are at SLHS or they don’t want to be at Herndon.

Families move out of Fox Mill to attend different HS because they don’t want IB.

If people wanted the IB, more than 50 kids a year would complete the diploma.

Dp. That's your opinion on how IB should work. Other people who like IB may disagree. People can like and want IB and also not do the diploma. It happens more often than you seem willing to believe.

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Anonymous wrote:Online bully to Crossfield parents = in person bully to crossfield kids. I hope all those crossfield kids who will be at the new school enjoy their new HS.

Nope, the bully is the woman leading this effort. She bullies the kids and she bullies other parents. IYKYK - lots of people have piped up on this board about her.

DP without a dog in the fight here. You guys have been bashing this woman relentlessly. I think you’re turning a lot of people off of your cause.

May want to dial it back. Approach it from a standpoint that people are looking out for their kids and will doggedly fight for them, just like you are.

Yeah, also no dog in the fight and it seems like this is almost becoming more of a personalities fight than one over school assignments.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why Fox Mill do not request AP at SLHS.

Even if they did, SLHS families wanted IB and in many cases moved close to the school specifically for IB.

Plenty do ask and have asked since the school was moved. And they are ignored. And they pupil place out to other schools. You don’t notice because Herndon HS kids pupil place at SLHS because their friends from AAP are at SLHS or they don’t want to be at Herndon.

Families move out of Fox Mill to attend different HS because they don’t want IB.

If people wanted the IB, more than 50 kids a year would complete the diploma.

Dp. That's your opinion on how IB should work. Other people who like IB may disagree. People can like and want IB and also not do the diploma. It happens more often than you seem willing to believe.

The IB program is designed as an integrated program that leads to an IB diploma. There is added cost and no benefit to ad hoc IB courses. We have an oversupply of IB in FCPS that can’t be justified for any reason other than inertia.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why Fox Mill do not request AP at SLHS.

Even if they did, SLHS families wanted IB and in many cases moved close to the school specifically for IB.

Plenty do ask and have asked since the school was moved. And they are ignored. And they pupil place out to other schools. You don’t notice because Herndon HS kids pupil place at SLHS because their friends from AAP are at SLHS or they don’t want to be at Herndon.

Families move out of Fox Mill to attend different HS because they don’t want IB.

If people wanted the IB, more than 50 kids a year would complete the diploma.

Dp. That's your opinion on how IB should work. Other people who like IB may disagree. People can like and want IB and also not do the diploma. It happens more often than you seem willing to believe.

The IB program is designed as an integrated program that leads to an IB diploma. There is added cost and no benefit to ad hoc IB courses. We have an oversupply of IB in FCPS that can’t be justified for any reason other than inertia.

While I agree with you in that we have an oversupply of IB prorgrams, SLHS is the only IB in the Western Fairfax.

FCPS needs to get rid of IB programs in the Eastern side.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why Fox Mill do not request AP at SLHS.

Even if they did, SLHS families wanted IB and in many cases moved close to the school specifically for IB.

Plenty do ask and have asked since the school was moved. And they are ignored. And they pupil place out to other schools. You don’t notice because Herndon HS kids pupil place at SLHS because their friends from AAP are at SLHS or they don’t want to be at Herndon.

Families move out of Fox Mill to attend different HS because they don’t want IB.

If people wanted the IB, more than 50 kids a year would complete the diploma.

Dp. That's your opinion on how IB should work. Other people who like IB may disagree. People can like and want IB and also not do the diploma. It happens more often than you seem willing to believe.

The IB program is designed as an integrated program that leads to an IB diploma. There is added cost and no benefit to ad hoc IB courses. We have an oversupply of IB in FCPS that can’t be justified for any reason other than inertia.

While I agree with you in that we have an oversupply of IB prorgrams, SLHS is the only IB in the Western Fairfax.

FCPS needs to get rid of IB programs in the Eastern side.

FCPS needs to offer AP at all school and have limited schools with IB as an opt in program, like LCPS and APS do. You go to IB for the diploma, which is the point of the program. IB as a pick and choose program is not the point of the program. That people think that is a great option means that FCPS has run the program poorly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Why Fox Mill do not request AP at SLHS.

Even if they did, SLHS families wanted IB and in many cases moved close to the school specifically for IB.

Plenty do ask and have asked since the school was moved. And they are ignored. And they pupil place out to other schools. You don’t notice because Herndon HS kids pupil place at SLHS because their friends from AAP are at SLHS or they don’t want to be at Herndon.

Families move out of Fox Mill to attend different HS because they don’t want IB.

If people wanted the IB, more than 50 kids a year would complete the diploma.

Dp. That's your opinion on how IB should work. Other people who like IB may disagree. People can like and want IB and also not do the diploma. It happens more often than you seem willing to believe.

The IB program is designed as an integrated program that leads to an IB diploma. There is added cost and no benefit to ad hoc IB courses. We have an oversupply of IB in FCPS that can’t be justified for any reason other than inertia.

While I agree with you in that we have an oversupply of IB prorgrams, SLHS is the only IB in the Western Fairfax.

FCPS needs to get rid of IB programs in the Eastern side.

FCPS needs to offer AP at all school and have limited schools with IB as an opt in program, like LCPS and APS do. You go to IB for the diploma, which is the point of the program. IB as a pick and choose program is not the point of the program. That people think that is a great option means that FCPS has run the program poorly.

Other schools around the country do it this way too. FCPS and families in district that like IB are not the only ones who find value in the program beyond the diploma.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a Crossfield parent of a 7th grader. I hope that we get moved to Western. My child has made a lot of new friends at Western and is bummed that they won’t go to the same high school. They are hoping that we’ll be rezoned to Western but we’ve discussed and they are aware that a lot of parents feel differently. It’s just such a bummer because all of their new friends PLUS a lot of the kids they play sports with in CYA will end up at Western. They would like to remain with their Carson and CYA friends. As a parent, I want this for them too. It’s hard to see friends ripped apart (this already happened when a handful of kids ended up at Hughes this year) and we expected it for high school but wouldn’t it be great if all the Carson kids could stay together?? That’s what we want - and like I said, I’m a parent of an older “Crossfield kid”. I know some of my kid’s friends and their parents feel the same way. Even some whose older siblings are at Oakton. Not every parent of a high schooler likes it - I’ve heard about bullying and too much competitiveness. I really just want stability.

I know this is the status quo - like if we stayed zoned to Oakton, this is what would happen, but now that there is another option, I agree. My kids would prefer to stay in school with the friends they meet through sports (although the McNair and Coates kids usually play in the Herndon and Reston leagues). But the only kids we ever meet that are going to Oakton are Navy, and there aren't actually that many Navy kids in CYA either. I don't know where the majority of them play.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Online bully to Crossfield parents = in person bully to crossfield kids. I hope all those crossfield kids who will be at the new school enjoy their new HS.

Nope, the bully is the woman leading this effort. She bullies the kids and she bullies other parents. IYKYK - lots of people have piped up on this board about her.

DP without a dog in the fight here. You guys have been bashing this woman relentlessly. I think you’re turning a lot of people off of your cause.

May want to dial it back. Approach it from a standpoint that people are looking out for their kids and will doggedly fight for them, just like you are.

Yeah, also no dog in the fight and it seems like this is almost becoming more of a personalities fight than one over school assignments.

DP. Yeah, it does.

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Anonymous wrote:If you feel differently then the Mom’s you are so upset with then you need to raise your own voice. The idea that you are only sending emails and posting on a board like this because you are worried about social ramifications for your kids is crazy. So what if your kid doesn’t hang out with their kid? You are prioritizing your kids social life for a year or two over what you think is important for their educational future? And your response is to TYPE IN ALL CAPS about how awful the parents are.

If it is that important to you, then say something. If you are going to prioritize the social element, then be prepared to not get what you want in terms of schools. And please stop shouting at us because you are making an active choice to prioritize socialization and not the school option.

DP but I know the people involved. I think it’s more than just social ramifications for the kids — it’s the whole family. Some people are very strongly against the possibility of having their kids attend this new school and are outright angry at anyone nearby trying to advocate to go there because they see it as a threat to what they want. That is unpleasant when you still have to go to school events, sports, scouts, etc with these people. It stinks because some of them (not the ringleaders — they aren’t nice in any setting — but some others) are otherwise nice people easy to get along with. This is really bringing out some craziness. At this point I figure most people staying quiet are fine with the new school but don’t want to incur the wrath of those who are really fired up about it.

Ignore them or tell them you disagree with them about the school but don’t want to discuss it with them. If they are that irrational about it, then separate yourself from them.

I fall into the passionate crowd but know my friends are in different places. I try not to talk about it any more and try to remember to shift the topic outside of sharing information. Like I posted the video showed at Carson for a group I am in and left it at that. We can opt-in or not, so people can make a choice that fits them. In the future, kids should be able to pupil place for the special programs.

That probably doesn’t help families with kids in ES who feel like they might not end up where they want but as long as FCPS allows for pupil placing, there is probably a way to move to a closer school or a school that you desire.

My kids are in late ES and I am concerned that by the time they’re going to high school there won’t be a way to opt in without being interested in whatever special program. Mine are unlikely to be interested in aviation. So we will be stuck with a long commute because people whose older kids had the option not to go there fought against us being in boundary.

By the time your kids grow older, you will understand why those older kids parents wants to stay at particular high school and appreciate what they have done for your younger kids.

What a joke! You know absolutely nothing about what the new school is going to be like. I've talked to two Oakton teachers that are hoping to work there.

DP

You're right!
We have no idea which teachers are going to be there!
We don't know what languages are going to be taught!
We don't know which AP classes are there!
We don't know how competative the sports teams will be!
We don't know what the borders are or what the demographics/FARMS of the school will be!
We don't know how competative/good the activities/clubs will be!

It's a joke that we're expecting kids/parents to make a decision with no info. (Other than it seems like they're trying to offer magnet like programs!)

Who want's their kids to be the guinea pigs that go there and how that new school will effect their chances at a competative school! but hey, we do know what pluses and minuses of the current schools are!

Your 2 teachers are super duper knowledgable, can they answer those questions because the school board can't provide all the answers to those questions!

but ThE BuS rIdEs... aand think of those young children who are so left out of the process! It's so unfair you people with older kids. SO UNFAIR!! You're so so selfish thinking about your kids futures!

Well guess what, for the young children... all of those questions will be answered by the time they go to their HS, but not for the kids who will be in the first few new classes!

Which is why you have the ability to opt out for THE NEXT THREE YEARS.

not long enough so my other kid can stay at oakton!

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, regardless of what is said, it’s going to be a magnet school. Too many parents spewing existential crises over moving from Oakton- they can’t resolve it. The point was to reduce enrollment in certain Western HS and that is who can opt in. Everyone can stop clutching their pearls, you get to choose where your kids are going and if you choose current school, great, you will have some extra elbow room with kids choosing Western. I was equally baffled by the sequencing but now I understand / there is literally no point to making people go to a new school - plenty will opt in and they will swing around a TJ style bus at local feeders and pick them up. The end result is the same - relieve crowding at Western realm high schools and don’t force anyone to go. I struggle to see a counter argument to this now that I figured it out.

You're wrong. There are five elementary schools in play and only one of them is making a stink. They'll leave Crossfield alone and let the families who want to go to Western (Floris, Coates, McNair, maybe Oak Hill and Fox Mill) go there. It's really not a big deal.

Agreed. I think FCPS thought Crossfield would be thrilled to have a shorter bus ride (I know it’s a big area and this might not be true for everyone) and while some are the others are so against it the board will probably determine it not worth the effort.

We are!!!! It's just a really vocal mommy and her friends who are against it.

you can read all the comments submitted, quite a few from crossfield parents who seem 90/10 against moving.

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, regardless of what is said, it’s going to be a magnet school. Too many parents spewing existential crises over moving from Oakton- they can’t resolve it. The point was to reduce enrollment in certain Western HS and that is who can opt in. Everyone can stop clutching their pearls, you get to choose where your kids are going and if you choose current school, great, you will have some extra elbow room with kids choosing Western. I was equally baffled by the sequencing but now I understand / there is literally no point to making people go to a new school - plenty will opt in and they will swing around a TJ style bus at local feeders and pick them up. The end result is the same - relieve crowding at Western realm high schools and don’t force anyone to go. I struggle to see a counter argument to this now that I figured it out.

You're wrong. There are five elementary schools in play and only one of them is making a stink. They'll leave Crossfield alone and let the families who want to go to Western (Floris, Coates, McNair, maybe Oak Hill and Fox Mill) go there. It's really not a big deal.

Agreed. I think FCPS thought Crossfield would be thrilled to have a shorter bus ride (I know it’s a big area and this might not be true for everyone) and while some are the others are so against it the board will probably determine it not worth the effort.

We are!!!! It's just a really vocal mommy and her friends who are against it.

you can read all the comments submitted, quite a few from crossfield parents who seem 90/10 against moving.

I doubt anyone knows the true numbers on any of these proposals because you can have the same handful of people posting over and over. So many comments on multiple schools were basically the same thing many times, posted in quick succession if you look at timestamps.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Crossfield parent of a 7th grader. I hope that we get moved to Western. My child has made a lot of new friends at Western and is bummed that they won’t go to the same high school. They are hoping that we’ll be rezoned to Western but we’ve discussed and they are aware that a lot of parents feel differently. It’s just such a bummer because all of their new friends PLUS a lot of the kids they play sports with in CYA will end up at Western. They would like to remain with their Carson and CYA friends. As a parent, I want this for them too. It’s hard to see friends ripped apart (this already happened when a handful of kids ended up at Hughes this year) and we expected it for high school but wouldn’t it be great if all the Carson kids could stay together?? That’s what we want - and like I said, I’m a parent of an older “Crossfield kid”. I know some of my kid’s friends and their parents feel the same way. Even some whose older siblings are at Oakton. Not every parent of a high schooler likes it - I’ve heard about bullying and too much competitiveness. I really just want stability.

I know this is the status quo - like if we stayed zoned to Oakton, this is what would happen, but now that there is another option, I agree. My kids would prefer to stay in school with the friends they meet through sports (although the McNair and Coates kids usually play in the Herndon and Reston leagues). But the only kids we ever meet that are going to Oakton are Navy, and there aren't actually that many Navy kids in CYA either. I don't know where the majority of them play.

There are a lot Navy kids in CYA.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Crossfield parent of a 7th grader. I hope that we get moved to Western. My child has made a lot of new friends at Western and is bummed that they won’t go to the same high school. They are hoping that we’ll be rezoned to Western but we’ve discussed and they are aware that a lot of parents feel differently. It’s just such a bummer because all of their new friends PLUS a lot of the kids they play sports with in CYA will end up at Western. They would like to remain with their Carson and CYA friends. As a parent, I want this for them too. It’s hard to see friends ripped apart (this already happened when a handful of kids ended up at Hughes this year) and we expected it for high school but wouldn’t it be great if all the Carson kids could stay together?? That’s what we want - and like I said, I’m a parent of an older “Crossfield kid”. I know some of my kid’s friends and their parents feel the same way. Even some whose older siblings are at Oakton. Not every parent of a high schooler likes it - I’ve heard about bullying and too much competitiveness. I really just want stability.

I know this is the status quo - like if we stayed zoned to Oakton, this is what would happen, but now that there is another option, I agree. My kids would prefer to stay in school with the friends they meet through sports (although the McNair and Coates kids usually play in the Herndon and Reston leagues). But the only kids we ever meet that are going to Oakton are Navy, and there aren't actually that many Navy kids in CYA either. I don't know where the majority of them play.

There are a lot Navy kids in CYA.

I guess my kids are just never paired with them. Most of the people they meet are actually Poplar Tree/Rocky Run or Floris/Carson for whatever reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Crossfield parent of a 7th grader. I hope that we get moved to Western. My child has made a lot of new friends at Western and is bummed that they won’t go to the same high school. They are hoping that we’ll be rezoned to Western but we’ve discussed and they are aware that a lot of parents feel differently. It’s just such a bummer because all of their new friends PLUS a lot of the kids they play sports with in CYA will end up at Western. They would like to remain with their Carson and CYA friends. As a parent, I want this for them too. It’s hard to see friends ripped apart (this already happened when a handful of kids ended up at Hughes this year) and we expected it for high school but wouldn’t it be great if all the Carson kids could stay together?? That’s what we want - and like I said, I’m a parent of an older “Crossfield kid”. I know some of my kid’s friends and their parents feel the same way. Even some whose older siblings are at Oakton. Not every parent of a high schooler likes it - I’ve heard about bullying and too much competitiveness. I really just want stability.

I know this is the status quo - like if we stayed zoned to Oakton, this is what would happen, but now that there is another option, I agree. My kids would prefer to stay in school with the friends they meet through sports (although the McNair and Coates kids usually play in the Herndon and Reston leagues). But the only kids we ever meet that are going to Oakton are Navy, and there aren't actually that many Navy kids in CYA either. I don't know where the majority of them play.

There are a lot Navy kids in CYA.

I guess my kids are just never paired with them. Most of the people they meet are actually Poplar Tree/Rocky Run or Floris/Carson for whatever reason.

There are plenty of Franklin kids and from Franklin feeders in CYA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a Crossfield parent of a 7th grader. I hope that we get moved to Western. My child has made a lot of new friends at Western and is bummed that they won’t go to the same high school. They are hoping that we’ll be rezoned to Western but we’ve discussed and they are aware that a lot of parents feel differently. It’s just such a bummer because all of their new friends PLUS a lot of the kids they play sports with in CYA will end up at Western. They would like to remain with their Carson and CYA friends. As a parent, I want this for them too. It’s hard to see friends ripped apart (this already happened when a handful of kids ended up at Hughes this year) and we expected it for high school but wouldn’t it be great if all the Carson kids could stay together?? That’s what we want - and like I said, I’m a parent of an older “Crossfield kid”. I know some of my kid’s friends and their parents feel the same way. Even some whose older siblings are at Oakton. Not every parent of a high schooler likes it - I’ve heard about bullying and too much competitiveness. I really just want stability.

I know this is the status quo - like if we stayed zoned to Oakton, this is what would happen, but now that there is another option, I agree. My kids would prefer to stay in school with the friends they meet through sports (although the McNair and Coates kids usually play in the Herndon and Reston leagues). But the only kids we ever meet that are going to Oakton are Navy, and there aren't actually that many Navy kids in CYA either. I don't know where the majority of them play.

There are a lot Navy kids in CYA.

I guess my kids are just never paired with them. Most of the people they meet are actually Poplar Tree/Rocky Run or Floris/Carson for whatever reason.

There are plenty of Franklin kids and from Franklin feeders in CYA.

Lees Corner and Oak Hill kids, sure, but we've never met a single Waples Mill kid in CYA. I'm not surprised, Chantilly and the schools we practice in are nowhere near Waples Mill.