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Midwife charged in DC? Karen Carr, CPM...
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Anonymous
Women coming forward to tell their tales? Yes indeed: www.inservicetowomen.org. |
Anonymous
Its heart warming to know that there is a population of people who support those that break the law, dispense drugs that were most likely obtained by illegal means, administer them with no formal training- because why would you want to learn how to administer a medication properly and educate yourself on the numerous indications and contraindication of those medications. I am also feeling secure in the knowledge that those same people will happily take a plea forever marking themselves and their records with a felony or two instead of defending yourself and your reputation. In regards to public sentiment- have any of you ever visited the City of Alexandria? Public view points and opinions carry heavy weight in that city. Its apparent there are many people content with Ms Carr operating illegally, administering medications illegally and contributing to an unknown amount of injuries and death so you can continue to have your alternative views, no matter what the cost. What is frightning is to think of where do you draw the line? Is something only wrong when it interfers with your alternative lifestyle? She broke the law and she was punished for it- she should have been left to rot in jail not only for her crimes in Va, but DC and MD as well. Regardless of whether or not one agrees with giving birth at home, in the forest or squating in a field-she practiced medicine without a license, she administered medications without a license, she posessed medications that she was not certified to have, but oh what the hell as long as no one get in the way of my progessive alternative lifestyle its all ok!!!! What kind of message does that send? You can do what you want because you think its ok, regardless of the laws? Amen? Logical thinking? I support those nurse midwives that dont take short cuts and get the education that they are required to have. I support all women who choose to take control of their bodies and make choices that they think are right for them and their unborn child/children. |
Anonymous
Two sides to every story: hurtbyhomebirth.blogspot.com |
Anonymous
As has been mentioned many, many times here, birth is normal and low risk until it's not. If she's delivered 1200 babies, and 100 have had problems, there are still 1100 deliveries that were perfect, and 1100 families who think she can do no wrong, when they were in fact just lucky. Does that negate the higher-than-justified numbers of damaged babies and problems she's run into because of her "trust birth" philosophy? I'm not overly concerned about the births she's attended that have gone well. I'm much more concerned about those that haven't, such as those that are referred to in the Washington Post article. |
Anonymous
Ignorance is bliss- and you are certainly full of bliss at this moment arent you? Funny that you place all this responsibility of Ms Boucher to take care of Ms Carr, but you dont seem to place any responsibility on Ms Carr for what she has done- why is that? |
Anonymous
My OB practice collaborates with midwives, home based as well as hospital based and we have an excellent relationship. It is unfortunate that the PP who stated the "nurse took care of her problem and her doctor was nowhere to be found" has sentenced OB physicians to a one size fits all category. There are many OB providers that give their patients choices and work within a paradigm that respects a mother's choices. Neither side should be demonized for experiences that are not the necessarily the norm, and that that goes for midwives as well as obstetricians. |
Anonymous
I am not the PP you are responding to, but I will answer anyway: I don't think Carr did anything wrong, and I believe she is an excellent midwife. |
Anonymous
How many deaths can she have to her name and still be an excellent midwife in your opinion? National average for all risk groups together is ~6.8/1000, which includes late term stillbirths and deaths of neonates up to 7 days. If she has had 10 deaths is she still an excellent midwife? 15? 20? |
Anonymous
Where on earth are you getting your information? You are spreading filthy lies that have no basis in reality. Every single provider - doctors and midwives alike - have encountered difficult birth situations. In all settings, sometimes babies and even mothers can die. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that Karen Carr has higher numbers than any other provider. This is one highly publicized case. The other cases mentioned in the WaPo article do not provide any meaningly information by which we can make any judgements at all about the midwife. |
Anonymous
Whoa there on the "filthy lies" bit. That In Service to Women site was mentioned as proof of what a great midwife and all around person Karen is. Is it really that hard to understand that any midwife is going to have lots of success stories? I could call myself a midwife starting today and have many more great, successful births than disasters. It's really not hard to see where she would have plenty of people who think she's the greatest, when her numbers could still be atrocious. Use your head. |
Anonymous
Don't you understand how vile you are being to speculate like this? You have absolutely no idea how many bad outcomes she has had. I challenge anyone who is truly interested in Carr's statistics to call her directly. Unlike your OB or your hospital, Karen Carr would happily sit down with you and have an open and honest discussion about her experience as a midwife. Though I'm sure the gossip mill would rather sit here spewing their bullshit and judgement without knowing any of the facts. |
Anonymous
KC didn't beg for it, they offered. They kept coming back with better and better deals because KC would not agree to jail time. Boucher kept coming back and KC kept saying no deal unless no jail time. I asked KC myself. Just give her a ring and find out for yourself. And if they wanted her off the streets, a simple cease and desist like DC did would have been a low-cost option. I want to know why Boucher spent all this money just to whittle it down to nothing. Was it really just a charade, a political event, like somebody else suggested? What a sham. And, if the family wasn't up to testifying, then well, they should have figured that one out way in advance. |
Anonymous
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I have to imagine that any OB who was convicted of similar felonies would have all their licenses to practice medicine removed.
Yet Karen Carr evidently has no difficulty maintaining her CPM "credential". Has NARM said a word to indicate that she is under investigation due to admitting that she was guilty of child endangerment? |
Anonymous
No, I'm not going to hold up on the "filthy lies" bit. You claim that she has a higher-than-justified number of damaged babies. That is completely, 100%, unsubstantiated. You use YOUR head. |
Anonymous
No, I did NOT claim damaged babies. I claimed that using that In Service to Women site (which, by the way, is not allowing all comments to stand- what on earth are they hiding??) as proof that Karen is a great, safe midwife is inane, and gave the example as to why. Awfully defensive, aren't we? |