With Love, Meghan on Netflix

[Anonymous]

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You guys are ridiculous.

As long as everything she releases ends up in the Netflix top 10, Netflix will keep working with her. It’s that simple. Nobody cares if you hate watch it or watch it for enjoyment.

Its viewership also came from Baltic bot farms. Even if those viewers were real they aren’t buying her jams.

Netflix doesn't care if anyone buys her jams. They aren't getting a cut of that merchandise I don't think.

PP is right though. And even if the allegation about "baltic bot farms" is true, there's also no question it got a lot of organic interest in the US and UK, even if a lot of it is hate watching or just people who are curious about the royal drama and want to see if it sneaks into the show.

One thing you can't deny is that it gets more media coverage and discussion than 99% of what Netflix makes. It's not on par with their truly big hits -- stuff like Bridgerton, British Baking Show, that romcom with Adam Brody and Kristen Bell. All of those get largely good reviews and I think do drive people to sign up for Netflix in a way that Meghans show never will.

But Netflix has a challenge of keeping viewers between season of those more popular shows, plus they keep raising their prices and they need to combat attrition when they do that. Meghan's show is popular enough to help them flesh out a catalog of content that can keep people engaged. The overlapping interests/audience with Bridgerton and British Baking Show is actually probably a huge selling point for Netflix execs, who are going to view the whole thing coldly as one of demographics and eyeballs. Will Meghan's show give a Bridgerton super fan something to watch while she waits for Season 4 to come out? Yeah, probably, because that viewer likely has an above-average interest in royal family drama, a pretty floral aesthetic, and the concept of having tea. Likewise, someone who binges an entire season of Baking Show is much more likely than other viewers to give Meghan's show a try because of the baking/cooking content. Will these viewers like Meghan's show as much as Bridgerton or Baking Show? No way, it's not as good. But will it keep them from pausing or dropping their Netflix subscription altogether between seasons of the shows they really love? Probably, yes.

And then Netflix also probably sees a lot of potential with the format of Meghan's show and having famous guests. I wrote upthread how I bet Mindy was kind of pushed by Netflix as a guest for Meghan's show, and to have her episode early in the series, because Mindy also has a deal with Netflix and she had a show (that she wrote/produced, not starred in) premiering around the same time. Roy Choi is the episode three guest and he also has a Netflix show -- Meghan had never met him before he did the show and I'm certain that was another Netflix "suggestion". So her show can serve as a platform for them to help promo other Netflix properties and try to get cross-over viewers. Maybe a Baking Show devotee decided to watch Meghan's show because they like baking and British things and they were hoping for a decent cake recipe and a glimpse of Harry (they get both). But then they saw the Roy Choi episode and decide to watch The Chef Show after that even though they'd never heard of him before, because the Korean fried chicken he made with Meghan looked good. Notice that none of this requires you to like Meghan or even like her show that much.

Meghan has been a good investment for Netflix, especially compared to a lot of their content that flops and doesn't go anywhere. It slots into their programming really well and can be a way to drive eyeballs where they want to drive them. Regardless of what you think of Meghan as a person or whether you think her show is good entertainment, it's a solid business move for Netflix.

Interesting you say that bc insiders at Netflix disagree. They’re stuck with her and trying to make the best of the deal they signed, but no one thinks this was a win for Netflix.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

Yeah. Meghan Markle has zero in common with the Obamas esp Michelle, who has had a ton of genuinely fascinating life experiences and who has had to protect her kids from genuinely racist freaks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

Yeah. Meghan Markle has zero in common with the Obamas esp Michelle, who has had a ton of genuinely fascinating life experiences and who has had to protect her kids from genuinely racist freaks.

Michelle immediately washed out of big law and has been grifting off her husband for literally 30 years.

[Anonymous]

Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

Yeah. Meghan Markle has zero in common with the Obamas esp Michelle, who has had a ton of genuinely fascinating life experiences and who has had to protect her kids from genuinely racist freaks.

Michelle immediately washed out of big law and has been grifting off her husband for literally 30 years.

She was First Lady for 8 years and did her job well. Meghan Markle was wife to prince harry and failed spectacularly at First Lady type duties in the BRF.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

Yeah. Meghan Markle has zero in common with the Obamas esp Michelle, who has had a ton of genuinely fascinating life experiences and who has had to protect her kids from genuinely racist freaks.

Michelle immediately washed out of big law and has been grifting off her husband for literally 30 years.

She worked for U. Chicago, she was First Lady, has a MASSIVELY successful book published, additional published work, and raised kids in the public eye. GTFOH. You don’t have to like someone but that’s not grifting. The Obamas got their Netflix deal based on a damned two-term presidency. They have significant, no bots needed social media followings, with a reliable conversion rate info purchases, legitimate viewing numbers for their programming. Come ON. Take politics out of this and BFFR.

It’s not the goddamned same as Harry and Meghan trying to blackmail their own families, flouncing away, lying about needing mossad and the secret service and James Bond to bodyguard them 24/7 at taxpayer expense. Their only success has been the initial sales of Spare and their whine fest selling out reality show, Harry and Meghan. Everything else has been a true disaster in terms of sales, numbers, and PR - which they desperately need. They are useless, powerless, and broadly detested. Even in the event of a divorce, if there’s still a functioning monarchy, the UK public reviles these two. You don’t have to adore the Obamas to see that comparing a useless tit on a bull of a Prince and his empty lying wife to them is offensive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Yes! She has no grace.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Yes! She has no grace.

I'm so glad I wasn't the only one to see that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Is it though? Maybe she thought "maybe Mindy wants to eat the crostini she made" or even "the butterfly is cute, I'll eat one of the others so as not to ruin it."

I think Meghan is wooden and not particularly charming on this show, but comments like this make me more sympathetic to her. This is nitpicking on an absurd level, to where no matter what she does, you'll probably find fault with it. In fact, in this specific instance, I bet if she'd eaten the crostini Mindy made, you'd be saying "did you notice that winds up eating the one Mindy made and didn't even ask if Mindy wanted it? Sooo telling."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Is it though? Maybe she thought "maybe Mindy wants to eat the crostini she made" or even "the butterfly is cute, I'll eat one of the others so as not to ruin it."

I think Meghan is wooden and not particularly charming on this show, but comments like this make me more sympathetic to her. This is nitpicking on an absurd level, to where no matter what she does, you'll probably find fault with it. In fact, in this specific instance, I bet if she'd eaten the crostini Mindy made, you'd be saying "did you notice that winds up eating the one Mindy made and didn't even ask if Mindy wanted it? Sooo telling."

Give it a rest. You’re such a goddamned drag playing dumpy bodyguard. People are gonna laugh at a faker.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Is it though? Maybe she thought "maybe Mindy wants to eat the crostini she made" or even "the butterfly is cute, I'll eat one of the others so as not to ruin it."

I think Meghan is wooden and not particularly charming on this show, but comments like this make me more sympathetic to her. This is nitpicking on an absurd level, to where no matter what she does, you'll probably find fault with it. In fact, in this specific instance, I bet if she'd eaten the crostini Mindy made, you'd be saying "did you notice that winds up eating the one Mindy made and didn't even ask if Mindy wanted it? Sooo telling."

Highly doubtful. She is a known germaphobe, esp in her social circle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Is it though? Maybe she thought "maybe Mindy wants to eat the crostini she made" or even "the butterfly is cute, I'll eat one of the others so as not to ruin it."

I think Meghan is wooden and not particularly charming on this show, but comments like this make me more sympathetic to her. This is nitpicking on an absurd level, to where no matter what she does, you'll probably find fault with it. In fact, in this specific instance, I bet if she'd eaten the crostini Mindy made, you'd be saying "did you notice that winds up eating the one Mindy made and didn't even ask if Mindy wanted it? Sooo telling."

Highly doubtful. She is a known germaphobe, esp in her social circle.

What is wrong with being a germaphobe? One of my BFFs is a germaphobe and hypochondriac and while it can be ridiculous at times, I don't hold it against him -- he's been medicated for anxiety and I know it's not something he can just snap his fingers and fix. I know it's actually tougher on him than it is on anyone else and would never take offense at him choosing not to eat something that I had touched. It is not a personal affront.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t care about whether Harry is anything diagnosable. He was the apparent primary target of the “fkin grifters” comment from a podcast exec.

Can anyone think of an analogous pair who sought fame and created content based on nothing? The only comparison is Real Housewives cast members AFAIC. They have not achieved in anything - Markle was not a super success at acting or at influencing. Other 2010s internet stars converted their “envy me! Get ready with me! Yayyyh” content into sellable product in conjunction with their site (cupcakes and cashmere, that dope who married a Ticonderoga pencil heir). Or — they turned to reality tv to recapture fleeting but earned fame in film, in music, etc (TI and Tiny, the Baldwins).

Meghan and Harry are different. They aren’t special because they kicked what made them special in the teeth and ran away. Their families don’t like them; they are out of cards to try and regain unwarranted, primogeniture based VIP status forever. It’s done.

This is pure Kardashians level stuff from 2008 or so but even then, Kim had a stylist job. I’ve never watched one second of any Kardashian show but those freaks seem to understand adaptation and how to convert fame into money. I’m under the impression that Meghan and Harry each think they’re too good for taking a note on how to succeed, that they “serve” and “think” and “are good people.” Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Kardashians. Influencers and social media personalities. Obamas. Trumps and Kushners. Nicki and Paris Hilton.

The Obama have fame based on nothing? In what universe lol

Yeah. Meghan Markle has zero in common with the Obamas esp Michelle, who has had a ton of genuinely fascinating life experiences and who has had to protect her kids from genuinely racist freaks.

Michelle immediately washed out of big law and has been grifting off her husband for literally 30 years.

She was First Lady for 8 years and did her job well. Meghan Markle was wife to prince harry and failed spectacularly at First Lady type duties in the BRF.

I agree. Michelle has made some recent statements about how unhappy she was in the White House. I think she did not want any part of being that high in politics and all the attention from the media It also seems like her baseline personality trends toward depressive or sullen. I think the Obamas are living separate lives but will not divorce.

Meghan did fail spectacularly. I think she did not realize how mundane the royal duties are. They spend most of their time shaking hands and cutting ribbons. Of course people get excited to see them but a lot of the places they visit are not glamorous at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice how at the end of the Mindy episode, Meghan almost reached for the butterfly crostini that Mindy made, then quickly passed over it for one she made. Sooo telling.

Is it though? Maybe she thought "maybe Mindy wants to eat the crostini she made" or even "the butterfly is cute, I'll eat one of the others so as not to ruin it."

I think Meghan is wooden and not particularly charming on this show, but comments like this make me more sympathetic to her. This is nitpicking on an absurd level, to where no matter what she does, you'll probably find fault with it. In fact, in this specific instance, I bet if she'd eaten the crostini Mindy made, you'd be saying "did you notice that winds up eating the one Mindy made and didn't even ask if Mindy wanted it? Sooo telling."

Highly doubtful. She is a known germaphobe, esp in her social circle.

What is wrong with being a germaphobe? One of my BFFs is a germaphobe and hypochondriac and while it can be ridiculous at times, I don't hold it against him -- he's been medicated for anxiety and I know it's not something he can just snap his fingers and fix. I know it's actually tougher on him than it is on anyone else and would never take offense at him choosing not to eat something that I had touched. It is not a personal affront.

Oh, yes, Meghan is being mocked for disability now 😢- the cruelty never ceases.

How does your BFF handle his issues on his streaming lifestyle show, since it’s relevant.