Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

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Why would be bother to drive the van home and live in a mostly inhospitable area to be a lone camper? Why wouldn't he just leave the van and take off into the wilderness there?
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....then both of them could just be missing. It would take a long time for someone to find her and he would still be missing weeks to months later. They both would be assumed to be a victim of foulplay by some escaped "loner" from the mysterious mental asylum, case closed.
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Why is there a deer cam in swampland?
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Anonymous wrote:Why would be bother to drive the van home and live in a mostly inhospitable area to be a lone camper? Why wouldn't he just leave the van and take off into the wilderness there?


Environment. Surviving and hiding in that area is much harder than doing so in a swamp. On top of that he had to think of the elements - fall is here and winter is coming. It's about to get very cold in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho with feet of snow on the ground. He'd freeze to death shortly after October/November-ish.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a deer cam in swampland?


It's used to capture wildlife movement - not just deer.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a deer cam in swampland?


Swamp Bucks. There are lots of deer in the swamps.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would be bother to drive the van home and live in a mostly inhospitable area to be a lone camper? Why wouldn't he just leave the van and take off into the wilderness there?


Environment. Surviving and hiding in that area is much harder than doing so in a swamp. On top of that he had to think of the elements - fall is here and winter is coming. It's about to get very cold in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho with feet of snow on the ground. He'd freeze to death shortly after October/November-ish.

But the parents could have gone out to Wyoming, claiming they were worried about him, since they're not afraid to file false missing persons reports, give him enough cash to get him to Canada, and then go back to Florida to file a missing persons report. Maybe they didn't realize how guilty he was until after he returned to Florida and spoke with the lawyer.
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Did LE actually say it "wasn't him" on the deer cam, or just that they investigated the area and didn't find anything? I only read the latter.
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Anonymous wrote:My point is what caused the disarray?


It was not even 2 months yet and , since they lived together for 2 years before that here is the lesson in why young adults should be counseled against running off like this with no purpose , no job and no concrete supports at that age:

They had a very vague plan and itinerary -but a chained together in a confined space - the van - which traps them to stay together in away because for each of them the van is their only form of shelter and transportation

Had they been Eurailing in Europe and had a Youth Hostel pass , they each could have gone their separate ways , but do you see - either they end their trip ( both give up their dream ) AND break up OR they stay in that Van and keep trying

Many young people have a hard time breaking up with the person that they have allowed themselves to become too dependent upon BUT for each of them , to break up meant giving up the van ( she can’t drive so she has to give up the whole trip ) . He has to admit failure to her, his parents and her parents - and himself

Had they each had an independent means of travel and their own money , they could have separated and Gabby write her blog ,” I kicked my lame bf out of my van and now I’m living my dream on my own ‘ cause I’m enough “ ( I would have followed her )

Instead, tragically- The pressure of their opposing goals begins to grate at Brian - “ she has this little blog “ ( Gabby wants to write a fairy tale )What does Brian want : he is basically an anti-social who just wants to hike off to the Wild barefoot and live off the land . Gabby wants him home for dinner and she wants to post photos of what she cooked and he should smile while he eats it

He can’t stand his own sense of failure and he feels trapped - kinda like people who kill themselves - too bad he didn’t . Instead, he kills her …now he can go on walkabout and not come back
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Anonymous wrote:Why would be bother to drive the van home and live in a mostly inhospitable area to be a lone camper? Why wouldn't he just leave the van and take off into the wilderness there?


Environment. Surviving and hiding in that area is much harder than doing so in a swamp. On top of that he had to think of the elements - fall is here and winter is coming. It's about to get very cold in the Utah/Wyoming/Idaho with feet of snow on the ground. He'd freeze to death shortly after October/November-ish.

But the parents could have gone out to Wyoming, claiming they were worried about him, since they're not afraid to file false missing persons reports, give him enough cash to get him to Canada, and then go back to Florida to file a missing persons report. Maybe they didn't realize how guilty he was until after he returned to Florida and spoke with the lawyer.


What would Canada do for him? It has the strongest extradition treaty and quick enforcement with the U.S. in the world. To the point that they're giving up a Chinese executive who is not a Canadian citizen over to the Americans. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/may/27/huawei-meng-wanzhou-canada-court-ruling-us-extradition

It also is completely unsurvivable unless you're living in the far South - which is why most of its people live along the northern U.S. border.

Crossing the Mexican border is a much better option - more lawlessness and places across a wide territory to hide. It also doesn't dip below zero with freezing temperatures at any part of the year.
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Anonymous wrote:He was possibly captured on a deer cam in Baker, FL, 500 miles from North Port. This was on Monday morning. Sure looks like him to me.



To add, it also appears to be a backpack similar to one he has carried.



That does indeed look like him.

He started growing his hair looks like.


that is totally him.


Cops already said it’s not


Link because that's wrong.



It is obviously him. The cops are wrong here (wouldn’t be the first time).


Wow. Good call on the necklace!
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Anonymous wrote:My point is what caused the disarray?


Living in a 40-square foot van on the road for three months...



Newsflash, all the prefect blog/Instagram worthy pictures aren't real life. First is a staged Instagram van lifer shot second is reality. So tired of all the influencer glorifying living out of a van.
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Anonymous wrote:He was possibly captured on a deer cam in Baker, FL, 500 miles from North Port. This was on Monday morning. Sure looks like him to me.



To add, it also appears to be a backpack similar to one he has carried.



That does indeed look like him.

He started growing his hair looks like.


that is totally him.


Cops already said it’s not


Link because that's wrong.



It is obviously him. The cops are wrong here (wouldn’t be the first time).


Wow. Good call on the necklace!


Also, it is possible the image is distorted which makes him look fatter. Image distortion is common.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why would be bother to drive the van home and live in a mostly inhospitable area to be a lone camper? Why wouldn't he just leave the van and take off into the wilderness there?


Because he isn’t a normal person . He is anti-social psychopath filled with rage

A normal person would just say , “ no more Jello for me Gabby “ “ here’s the keys ….call your parents …I’m outa here “ ( maybe atleast driven to the town and left her and the van there for her parents )

Instead, because he is a psycho he projects his sense of personal failure onto her …” I could be a great adventurer if it weren’t for this girl ….why does she keep making me come back to the van …how will I admit to everyone that Gabby left me because I’m a loser ….” Well, I have a solution for that ( Gabby will never be able to really leave me ) and she won’t challenge me anymore ….and that voice telling me I am a failure will go silent “

This is how psychos think
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Anonymous wrote:Why is there a deer cam in swampland?


Swamp Bucks. There are lots of deer in the swamps.


I don’t know. Someone up thread said it’s part of a deer trap.

Rednecks are so weird!
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