Government Shutdown - September, 2025 Editiion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

Yep. Pretty soon the SNAP benefits feeding a lot of red voters and the ACA subsidies, also dominated by Republican voters, are both going to be cut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

I didn't say anything about compromise? J said win the damn war. And the Dens may not have anything to kids but the people? This affected by the shutdown!??? Are they winning? You think they don't have anything to lose? It's a damn CR. It's not even a perm fix! It's the ACA premium subsidies. Pick a fight that they can win. It's not about losing and compromising / go win a fight!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

Yep. Pretty soon the SNAP benefits feeding a lot of red voters and the ACA subsidies, also dominated by Republican voters, are both going to be cut.

Good. Glad they got what they voted for.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

I didn't say anything about compromise? J said win the damn war. And the Dens may not have anything to kids but the people? This affected by the shutdown!??? Are they winning? You think they don't have anything to lose? It's a damn CR. It's not even a perm fix! It's the ACA premium subsidies. Pick a fight that they can win. It's not about losing and compromising / go win a fight!

You still don't get it. Republicans have got all three levers of power AND, unlike in Trump's first term, he and his cabinet and department heads are not heeding any laws or the Constitution. The Constitutional crisis is at the door. This term, the Trumpian mandate is "let's do all the illegal things and overwhelm and intimidate all the judges who aren't already on our side". It has worked, up to a point. Plenty of irreversible harm has been done with that unpardonable approach.

The only response possible is out-an-out brinkmanship. The MAGAs are terrorists. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

Shut it down.

[Anonymous]

Shumer shutdown continues

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Shumer shutdown continues

I think that his 37% approval rating (and declining) makes that very wishful thinking on your part.

This is a Trump shutdown over the Trump-Epstein files.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

I didn't say anything about compromise? J said win the damn war. And the Dens may not have anything to kids but the people? This affected by the shutdown!??? Are they winning? You think they don't have anything to lose? It's a damn CR. It's not even a perm fix! It's the ACA premium subsidies. Pick a fight that they can win. It's not about losing and compromising / go win a fight!

You still don't get it. Republicans have got all three levers of power AND, unlike in Trump's first term, he and his cabinet and department heads are not heeding any laws or the Constitution. The Constitutional crisis is at the door. This term, the Trumpian mandate is "let's do all the illegal things and overwhelm and intimidate all the judges who aren't already on our side". It has worked, up to a point. Plenty of irreversible harm has been done with that unpardonable approach.

The only response possible is out-an-out brinkmanship. The MAGAs are terrorists. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

Shut it down.

How's that going?

Day 17. I pretty much guarantee you that at day 22 or 33 or 46 - the only ones shut down will be the Democrats who had to cave in order to get a govt running in this country.

-signed a frustrated Dem who barfs at how foolish the Dem leadership are

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

The shutdown effect.

[Anonymous]

Libs at it again lol x x x xxzzzzzzzzzz

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The shutdown effect.

"Peace" in the Middle East. It'll fade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Since when he cares about the federal government?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

I didn't say anything about compromise? J said win the damn war. And the Dens may not have anything to kids but the people? This affected by the shutdown!??? Are they winning? You think they don't have anything to lose? It's a damn CR. It's not even a perm fix! It's the ACA premium subsidies. Pick a fight that they can win. It's not about losing and compromising / go win a fight!

You still don't get it. Republicans have got all three levers of power AND, unlike in Trump's first term, he and his cabinet and department heads are not heeding any laws or the Constitution. The Constitutional crisis is at the door. This term, the Trumpian mandate is "let's do all the illegal things and overwhelm and intimidate all the judges who aren't already on our side". It has worked, up to a point. Plenty of irreversible harm has been done with that unpardonable approach.

The only response possible is out-an-out brinkmanship. The MAGAs are terrorists. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

Shut it down.

How's that going?

Day 17. I pretty much guarantee you that at day 22 or 33 or 46 - the only ones shut down will be the Democrats who had to cave in order to get a govt running in this country.

-signed a frustrated Dem who barfs at how foolish the Dem leadership are

I think it will all catch up to the Republicans soon enough... the Dems cave, and millions of Americans, many of whom are Trump supporters are left scratching their heads over why their healthcare costs doubled, tripled, quadrupled... or went away altogether. Or why everything else has continued to get so much more expensive.

Can't blame the Dems for any of it anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I get it - I think Dems should be angry about this topic in raising insurance prices. The Republicans suck. They are evil. They should be stopped from raising ACA min. I'm not sure who does not agree with this except anyone who isn't affected?

But in the context of battle - what will you win and what will you lose over this, you have to think hard and deep. It cannot just be - hey - this sucks - let's go fight! In every battle, there must be a....strategy. What are your options in how best to win this battle?

The Dems seem to never have a strategy, beyond, we won't cave! And everytime, the Dems cave. Maybe this time it goes on for longer but essentially, they operate the same way. every. time.

A govt shutdown is not a strategy. It's a bargaining chip to leverage their position but it's not a strategy.

You didn't notice the times they compromised like adults, then? Because Schumer is still smarting from that last time he kept the government open with the Republicans.

The truth is that we have reached the point where Democrats now have nothing to lose. Zip. They can keep it shut down forever. At the end, it will be on Trump and his horde of monsters.

I didn't say anything about compromise? J said win the damn war. And the Dens may not have anything to kids but the people? This affected by the shutdown!??? Are they winning? You think they don't have anything to lose? It's a damn CR. It's not even a perm fix! It's the ACA premium subsidies. Pick a fight that they can win. It's not about losing and compromising / go win a fight!

You still don't get it. Republicans have got all three levers of power AND, unlike in Trump's first term, he and his cabinet and department heads are not heeding any laws or the Constitution. The Constitutional crisis is at the door. This term, the Trumpian mandate is "let's do all the illegal things and overwhelm and intimidate all the judges who aren't already on our side". It has worked, up to a point. Plenty of irreversible harm has been done with that unpardonable approach.

The only response possible is out-an-out brinkmanship. The MAGAs are terrorists. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

Shut it down.

How's that going?

Day 17. I pretty much guarantee you that at day 22 or 33 or 46 - the only ones shut down will be the Democrats who had to cave in order to get a govt running in this country.

-signed a frustrated Dem who barfs at how foolish the Dem leadership are

+1

It's the awful leadership of the GOP vs the non-existent since Obama left office Dem leadership. Collectively, it's a disgusting hot mess.