SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my question: SJP is smart and plugged in. She must know how many people are disappointed by the show. How is she feeling?

Rich. She's feeling very, very rich. Her kids are set for life. She grew up poor; she's probably happy her children, and grandchildren, are set for life.

I'm sure she's grateful to feel financially secure, but the backlash to her signature show -- her signature character, which was such an emblem of a place and time -- must really hurt. She's irrelevant; the storylines and characters are being mocked; and one of the main characters is now being accused of horrific sexual behavior. This, plus Cattrall's allegations, tarnish her image, and she works hard at her image.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's my question: SJP is smart and plugged in. She must know how many people are disappointed by the show. How is she feeling?

Rich. She's feeling very, very rich. Her kids are set for life. She grew up poor; she's probably happy her children, and grandchildren, are set for life.

I'm sure she's grateful to feel financially secure, but the backlash to her signature show -- her signature character, which was such an emblem of a place and time -- must really hurt. She's irrelevant; the storylines and characters are being mocked; and one of the main characters is now being accused of horrific sexual behavior. This, plus Cattrall's allegations, tarnish her image, and she works hard at her image.

Well they can’t take her Emmy and Golden Globes away, now can they? Nor the other awards won and nominations garnered by the original show’s cast, crew and producers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

[Anonymous]

…or the loss of a significant friendship…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

I think the reboot is generally terrible, but I do find Charlotte and her trans kid relatable, as someone with a trans kid. I think I was more aware and able to settle into the new name and pronouns a little easier than her, but some moments just really struck a familiar chord.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

The topics seemed handpicked to be token-resonant. The writing isn't strong, deep, or nuanced enough to make it relatable. This issue has been well-documented. Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

I know many people who died suddenly, but none who died in a multi-million-dollar Penthouse after a Peloton workout, discovered by a vapid spouse who didn't call 911 but clung to him in the shower as her Malonos got wet.

I also know many people with trans kids, but none who also seem baffled by Black authors, who go on a treasure hunt for token Black friends, and seem flabbergasted and perplexed during an elite private school meeting about the issue.

I also know people with dead-bedroom marriages, but to my knowledge none that have cheated on their spouse loudly while a friend recovers from surgery in the next room.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

The topics seemed handpicked to be token-resonant. The writing isn't strong, deep, or nuanced enough to make it relatable. This issue has been well-documented. Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

I know many people who died suddenly, but none who died in a multi-million-dollar Penthouse after a Peloton workout, discovered by a vapid spouse who didn't call 911 but clung to him in the shower as her Malonos got wet.

I also know many people with trans kids, but none who also seem baffled by Black authors, who go on a treasure hunt for token Black friends, and seem flabbergasted and perplexed during an elite private school meeting about the issue.

I also know people with dead-bedroom marriages, but to my knowledge none that have cheated on their spouse loudly while a friend recovers from surgery in the next room.

The people you know sound boring and I don’t want to watch a scripted TV show about them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

The topics seemed handpicked to be token-resonant. The writing isn't strong, deep, or nuanced enough to make it relatable. This issue has been well-documented. Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

I know many people who died suddenly, but none who died in a multi-million-dollar Penthouse after a Peloton workout, discovered by a vapid spouse who didn't call 911 but clung to him in the shower as her Malonos got wet.

I also know many people with trans kids, but none who also seem baffled by Black authors, who go on a treasure hunt for token Black friends, and seem flabbergasted and perplexed during an elite private school meeting about the issue.

I also know people with dead-bedroom marriages, but to my knowledge none that have cheated on their spouse loudly while a friend recovers from surgery in the next room.

The people you know sound boring and I don’t want to watch a scripted TV show about them.

These characters are cartoonish and flat.

[Anonymous]

Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

Carrie smoked throughout the original show. I don’t think it’s OOC for her to slip back into that after suffering a huge life change like her husband dying.

[Anonymous]

Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

FYI Tito’s is not tequila, it’s vodka. Hidden vodka is par for the course for people with alcohol issues. And I don’t think her giving it all up that fast is going to be the end of it. Plus, isn’t Steve still bringing in income?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

It’s rare on shows, but not are rare among affluent NYC women as you might think. Smoking is better than eating is you want to be stick thin, which is still big part of how women in that social class are valued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

FYI Tito’s is not tequila, it’s vodka. Hidden vodka is par for the course for people with alcohol issues. And I don’t think her giving it all up that fast is going to be the end of it. Plus, isn’t Steve still bringing in income?

DP. PP also has a really skewed sense of time. The most recent episode is *months* after the one with the bottles in the backpack, and even since Miranda quit drinking. This is all happening after Carries’s PT is done, and that alone was three months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

I’m finding Charlotte’s story with her younger kid very relatable because I have the exact same thing going on in my house.

Yeah, this one I get, including her both perplexed and also striving-to-be-empathetic reaction.