SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

The clothes, Apartment, lifestyles are the only reason to watch.

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Here's my question: SJP is smart and plugged in. She must know how many people are disappointed by the show. How is she feeling?

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I really liked this take on Miranda's alcoholism:
https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a38686130/and-just-like-that-miranda-drinking-alcoholism-stereotypes/

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my question: SJP is smart and plugged in. She must know how many people are disappointed by the show. How is she feeling?

Rich. I think she’s feeling rich.

They also have the nice fallback that the show is “breaking boundaries of showing the lived experiences of older women,” so they can blame all negative feedback on people not wanting to see older women, shaming older women, blah blah blah.

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Anonymous wrote:My only complaint, it’s time to lose “Rambo”, she can call herself Miranda now. Was really hoping that was the pause before she sent the text. I thought it was a cute crush affectation using the nickname at first, now I want her to own her experience. Using her own name in that text would have shown a wee bit of growth/self awareness.

Also she should really be calling herself “Rando” instead since it is a better shortening of her name miRANDO/a

So frustrated with Carrie taking her her friend’s plastic surgery appointment and then complaining he should allow it because she had come to support him. Then DO IT and just sit there and support him Carrie instead of making everyone in the room focus on you you you because you’re so special.

That scene totally took me back to the original show because that was so in character for Carrie.

What? Anthony had his consult and was told he had great skin and only needed a little botox. The whole thing about the Carrie focus was acknowledgment that her face was in much worse shape in terms of aging effects, and would require far more extensive interventions to correct. If anything, it was humiliating.

She made it all about her. That’s what rang true to the original show. In which she was regularly humiliated.

It was a two-person consult. Anthony went first, was told he was hot and didn't really need work. Then Carrie was like, how about me? And the doctor totally tore her face apart. She didn't make it about her. She'd been brought to the consult as part of the package, and got humiliated during it - though I think she handled it really well. I think she's handling things really well overall honestly. She bought the apartment, realized she hated it, told Seema, and now they'll sell it. She is being pretty mature (maturity backed by astonishing resources, but mature).

I don’t think it was a consult for two people. Remember when the doctor started with Carrie as his focus and had to be corrected?

If the doctor really was supposed to evaluate both people, Carrie’s demand that he look at her is less selfish. But I thought she was just there as moral support. If she was, and then out the focus of the appointment on her, it’s so annoying! But if the doctor was supposed to evaluate them both from the beginning, it’s less egregious. (But if he was, I don’t think it would have mattered who he started with, and it clearly did given his faux pas at the beginning of the appointment.)

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Anonymous wrote:My only complaint, it’s time to lose “Rambo”, she can call herself Miranda now. Was really hoping that was the pause before she sent the text. I thought it was a cute crush affectation using the nickname at first, now I want her to own her experience. Using her own name in that text would have shown a wee bit of growth/self awareness.

Also she should really be calling herself “Rando” instead since it is a better shortening of her name miRANDO/a

So frustrated with Carrie taking her her friend’s plastic surgery appointment and then complaining he should allow it because she had come to support him. Then DO IT and just sit there and support him Carrie instead of making everyone in the room focus on you you you because you’re so special.

That scene totally took me back to the original show because that was so in character for Carrie.

What? Anthony had his consult and was told he had great skin and only needed a little botox. The whole thing about the Carrie focus was acknowledgment that her face was in much worse shape in terms of aging effects, and would require far more extensive interventions to correct. If anything, it was humiliating.

She made it all about her. That’s what rang true to the original show. In which she was regularly humiliated.

It was a two-person consult. Anthony went first, was told he was hot and didn't really need work. Then Carrie was like, how about me? And the doctor totally tore her face apart. She didn't make it about her. She'd been brought to the consult as part of the package, and got humiliated during it - though I think she handled it really well. I think she's handling things really well overall honestly. She bought the apartment, realized she hated it, told Seema, and now they'll sell it. She is being pretty mature (maturity backed by astonishing resources, but mature).

I don’t think it was a consult for two people. Remember when the doctor started with Carrie as his focus and had to be corrected?

If the doctor really was supposed to evaluate both people, Carrie’s demand that he look at her is less selfish. But I thought she was just there as moral support. If she was, and then out the focus of the appointment on her, it’s so annoying! But if the doctor was supposed to evaluate them both from the beginning, it’s less egregious. (But if he was, I don’t think it would have mattered who he started with, and it clearly did given his faux pas at the beginning of the appointment.)

You are correct. She was just there for moral support. Anthony asked her to go with and talk him out of anything crazy. It wasn’t about Carrie at all until the doctor and then Carrie made it all about her.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

I’m finding Charlotte’s story with her younger kid very relatable because I have the exact same thing going on in my house.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's my question: SJP is smart and plugged in. She must know how many people are disappointed by the show. How is she feeling?

Rich. She's feeling very, very rich. Her kids are set for life. She grew up poor; she's probably happy her children, and grandchildren, are set for life.

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Anonymous wrote:My only complaint, it’s time to lose “Rambo”, she can call herself Miranda now. Was really hoping that was the pause before she sent the text. I thought it was a cute crush affectation using the nickname at first, now I want her to own her experience. Using her own name in that text would have shown a wee bit of growth/self awareness.

Also she should really be calling herself “Rando” instead since it is a better shortening of her name miRANDO/a

So frustrated with Carrie taking her her friend’s plastic surgery appointment and then complaining he should allow it because she had come to support him. Then DO IT and just sit there and support him Carrie instead of making everyone in the room focus on you you you because you’re so special.

That scene totally took me back to the original show because that was so in character for Carrie.

What? Anthony had his consult and was told he had great skin and only needed a little botox. The whole thing about the Carrie focus was acknowledgment that her face was in much worse shape in terms of aging effects, and would require far more extensive interventions to correct. If anything, it was humiliating.

She made it all about her. That’s what rang true to the original show. In which she was regularly humiliated.

It was a two-person consult. Anthony went first, was told he was hot and didn't really need work. Then Carrie was like, how about me? And the doctor totally tore her face apart. She didn't make it about her. She'd been brought to the consult as part of the package, and got humiliated during it - though I think she handled it really well. I think she's handling things really well overall honestly. She bought the apartment, realized she hated it, told Seema, and now they'll sell it. She is being pretty mature (maturity backed by astonishing resources, but mature).

I don’t think it was a consult for two people. Remember when the doctor started with Carrie as his focus and had to be corrected?

If the doctor really was supposed to evaluate both people, Carrie’s demand that he look at her is less selfish. But I thought she was just there as moral support. If she was, and then out the focus of the appointment on her, it’s so annoying! But if the doctor was supposed to evaluate them both from the beginning, it’s less egregious. (But if he was, I don’t think it would have mattered who he started with, and it clearly did given his faux pas at the beginning of the appointment.)

You are correct. She was just there for moral support. Anthony asked her to go with and talk him out of anything crazy. It wasn’t about Carrie at all until the doctor and then Carrie made it all about her.

And she got slammed for it, which was funny. Also gave Jonathan Groff more lines which is always a good thing.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

PP here: Maybe it's because AJLT isn't quite written to the same level as Hamlet. Or even Star Trek. "The emotions they feel, the relationships they forge" in AJLT seem wildly cartoonish. I don't watch Real Housewives crap for that reason. The original SATC had some heart (remember the post-9/11 episode?) This one just seems like a parody.

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The plastic surgery scene reminded me of the movie Just Go With It when Nicole Kidman (very funny fake, conceited person) asked Adam Sandler (plastic surgeon) what he would change about her, fully expecting him to say, "Nothing, you are perfect."

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

PP here: Maybe it's because AJLT isn't quite written to the same level as Hamlet. Or even Star Trek. "The emotions they feel, the relationships they forge" in AJLT seem wildly cartoonish. I don't watch Real Housewives crap for that reason. The original SATC had some heart (remember the post-9/11 episode?) This one just seems like a parody.

I don’t disagree with any of those valid points. What I do roll my eyes at is the criteria that a show or a book or what have you has to be “relatable” to be good.

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Anonymous wrote:My only complaint, it’s time to lose “Rambo”, she can call herself Miranda now. Was really hoping that was the pause before she sent the text. I thought it was a cute crush affectation using the nickname at first, now I want her to own her experience. Using her own name in that text would have shown a wee bit of growth/self awareness.

Also she should really be calling herself “Rando” instead since it is a better shortening of her name miRANDO/a

So frustrated with Carrie taking her her friend’s plastic surgery appointment and then complaining he should allow it because she had come to support him. Then DO IT and just sit there and support him Carrie instead of making everyone in the room focus on you you you because you’re so special.

That scene totally took me back to the original show because that was so in character for Carrie.

What? Anthony had his consult and was told he had great skin and only needed a little botox. The whole thing about the Carrie focus was acknowledgment that her face was in much worse shape in terms of aging effects, and would require far more extensive interventions to correct. If anything, it was humiliating.

She made it all about her. That’s what rang true to the original show. In which she was regularly humiliated.

It was a two-person consult. Anthony went first, was told he was hot and didn't really need work. Then Carrie was like, how about me? And the doctor totally tore her face apart. She didn't make it about her. She'd been brought to the consult as part of the package, and got humiliated during it - though I think she handled it really well. I think she's handling things really well overall honestly. She bought the apartment, realized she hated it, told Seema, and now they'll sell it. She is being pretty mature (maturity backed by astonishing resources, but mature).

I don’t think it was a consult for two people. Remember when the doctor started with Carrie as his focus and had to be corrected?

If the doctor really was supposed to evaluate both people, Carrie’s demand that he look at her is less selfish. But I thought she was just there as moral support. If she was, and then out the focus of the appointment on her, it’s so annoying! But if the doctor was supposed to evaluate them both from the beginning, it’s less egregious. (But if he was, I don’t think it would have mattered who he started with, and it clearly did given his faux pas at the beginning of the appointment.)

You are correct. She was just there for moral support. Anthony asked her to go with and talk him out of anything crazy. It wasn’t about Carrie at all until the doctor and then Carrie made it all about her.

And she got slammed for it, which was funny. Also gave Jonathan Groff more lines which is always a good thing.

Seriously, he’s adorable.

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Anonymous wrote:My only complaint, it’s time to lose “Rambo”, she can call herself Miranda now. Was really hoping that was the pause before she sent the text. I thought it was a cute crush affectation using the nickname at first, now I want her to own her experience. Using her own name in that text would have shown a wee bit of growth/self awareness.

Also she should really be calling herself “Rando” instead since it is a better shortening of her name miRANDO/a

So frustrated with Carrie taking her her friend’s plastic surgery appointment and then complaining he should allow it because she had come to support him. Then DO IT and just sit there and support him Carrie instead of making everyone in the room focus on you you you because you’re so special.

That scene totally took me back to the original show because that was so in character for Carrie.

What? Anthony had his consult and was told he had great skin and only needed a little botox. The whole thing about the Carrie focus was acknowledgment that her face was in much worse shape in terms of aging effects, and would require far more extensive interventions to correct. If anything, it was humiliating.

She made it all about her. That’s what rang true to the original show. In which she was regularly humiliated.

It was a two-person consult. Anthony went first, was told he was hot and didn't really need work. Then Carrie was like, how about me? And the doctor totally tore her face apart. She didn't make it about her. She'd been brought to the consult as part of the package, and got humiliated during it - though I think she handled it really well. I think she's handling things really well overall honestly. She bought the apartment, realized she hated it, told Seema, and now they'll sell it. She is being pretty mature (maturity backed by astonishing resources, but mature).

I don’t think it was a consult for two people. Remember when the doctor started with Carrie as his focus and had to be corrected?

If the doctor really was supposed to evaluate both people, Carrie’s demand that he look at her is less selfish. But I thought she was just there as moral support. If she was, and then out the focus of the appointment on her, it’s so annoying! But if the doctor was supposed to evaluate them both from the beginning, it’s less egregious. (But if he was, I don’t think it would have mattered who he started with, and it clearly did given his faux pas at the beginning of the appointment.)

You are correct. She was just there for moral support. Anthony asked her to go with and talk him out of anything crazy. It wasn’t about Carrie at all until the doctor and then Carrie made it all about her.

It was originally a 2-person consult, for Anthony and Stannie. So I don't think it's a big deal that she ended up getting a consult, which the doctor basically invited. Agree with PPs it was more humiliating for the character than anything else.

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Anonymous wrote:It's honestly unbelievable how selfish and unlikable Miranda has become. And she's not remotely cool enough for Che. Just pathetic.

LOL, I agree about Miranda except Che is neither cool nor funny except in the delusional universe of this show. I’ve never seen a less funny alleged comedy show.

+1 https://www.thedailybeast.com/and-just-like-thats-che-diaz-is-the-worst-character-on-tv?ref=author