SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

FYI Tito’s is not tequila, it’s vodka. Hidden vodka is par for the course for people with alcohol issues. And I don’t think her giving it all up that fast is going to be the end of it. Plus, isn’t Steve still bringing in income?

DP. PP also has a really skewed sense of time. The most recent episode is *months* after the one with the bottles in the backpack, and even since Miranda quit drinking. This is all happening after Carries’s PT is done, and that alone was three months.

I thought that too about the timing but then I couldn’t believe they waited all that time to tell Charlotte that Miranda had sex with Carrie’s boss in her kitchen. That’s a story that couldn’t wait hours, much less months.

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Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

FYI Tito’s is not tequila, it’s vodka. Hidden vodka is par for the course for people with alcohol issues. And I don’t think her giving it all up that fast is going to be the end of it. Plus, isn’t Steve still bringing in income?

DP. PP also has a really skewed sense of time. The most recent episode is *months* after the one with the bottles in the backpack, and even since Miranda quit drinking. This is all happening after Carries’s PT is done, and that alone was three months.

I thought that too about the timing but then I couldn’t believe they waited all that time to tell Charlotte that Miranda had sex with Carrie’s boss in her kitchen. That’s a story that couldn’t wait hours, much less months.

When you try to get sober after developing a true drinking problem, it can be an all-consuming thing. Your mental and emotional energy has to go into not drinking, and bring extra emotional turmoil upon yourself (such as admitting you cheated on your husband with your friend’s boss and now think you might be a lesbian) is really counterproductive. Miranda probably had a lot of work to do before she even could have that conversation without going straight to the bar.

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Carrie’s apartment beeping…zzzzzz…could they come up with a more boring storyline?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

It’s rare on shows, but not are rare among affluent NYC women as you might think. Smoking is better than eating is you want to be stick thin, which is still big part of how women in that social class are valued.

The realtor isn’t stick thin.

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I’m enjoying the reboot, though I realize I’m in the minority. SATC was always a little cheesy, a little bombastic, very much not relatable to me. But there’s something about watching the characters age (somewhat) gracefully and deal with their various issues, however token they seem. I’ll keep watching

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Anonymous wrote:There are many things that bug me about the reboot, most of which have been discussed here, but one of them is the stratospheric wealth. SATC was never a remotely realistic depiction of single women living in NYC but now every single character and scene is living at billionaire levels. It's like Real Housewives sort of parody at this point, there's nothing relatable about a woman widowed in her mid50s who doesn't work, has no kids or other nuclear family, and who buys and sells $25m apartments on a whim. Same for Charlotte and Miranda although at least they have kids as props. Ironically it's only the POC and Anthony in his gay sidekick role where there's even a pretense of work, and no one ever has to think about money. Feels especially tone deaf right now.

Why do some people always equate something being good with how “relatable” it is? Do you watch “Hamlet” and RELATE to it? Hope not. Can you relate to being in the British aristocracy? If not, you won’t find “Bridgerton” to be very relatable. Do you relate to Captain Picard’s “lifestyle” as he commands a Starfleet ship? Do you “relate” to Pip’s poverty and being an orphan in “Great Expectations”? Did you “relate” to Harry Potter when he went off to wizard in school?

While you didn’t relate to these characters based on lifestyle or life circumstances, you likely did relate to them because of the emotions they feel, the relationships they forge, and the way life can bring them very high or very low.

Because on some level, these characters were relatable in the original, at least in terms of their relationships. Yes, the fashion and glamour had an element of fantasy, but the relationships felt authentic and struck a chord.

Just because having a possibly trans kid doesn’t resonate with you doesn’t mean it doesn’t resonate with others. Or an alcohol struggle, or a sudden death, or a dead-bedroom marriage…

The topics seemed handpicked to be token-resonant. The writing isn't strong, deep, or nuanced enough to make it relatable. This issue has been well-documented. Sure, I know many people with alcohol issues. Not many that carried small bottles of tequila in a back pack and then gave it all up the next week, all while living in a multi-million dollar home with no income.

I know many people who died suddenly, but none who died in a multi-million-dollar Penthouse after a Peloton workout, discovered by a vapid spouse who didn't call 911 but clung to him in the shower as her Malonos got wet.

I also know many people with trans kids, but none who also seem baffled by Black authors, who go on a treasure hunt for token Black friends, and seem flabbergasted and perplexed during an elite private school meeting about the issue.

I also know people with dead-bedroom marriages, but to my knowledge none that have cheated on their spouse loudly while a friend recovers from surgery in the next room.

The people you know sound boring and I don’t want to watch a scripted TV show about them.

These characters are cartoonish and flat.

And yet, you are not only watching them every week, you are discussing them online.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m enjoying the reboot, though I realize I’m in the minority. SATC was always a little cheesy, a little bombastic, very much not relatable to me. But there’s something about watching the characters age (somewhat) gracefully and deal with their various issues, however token they seem. I’ll keep watching

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Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

I know plenty of non-“gritty” people over the age of 50 in real life who still smoke.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

I know plenty of non-“gritty” people over the age of 50 in real life who still smoke.

Even the kids in Euphoria smoke. Maybe HBO had some product placement deal with Big Bacco

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Anonymous wrote:Why do two characters (Carrie and the realtor) smoke? That’s fairly rare in shows, especially for characters like these. We often see it with grittier characters.

It’s rare on shows, but not are rare among affluent NYC women as you might think. Smoking is better than eating is you want to be stick thin, which is still big part of how women in that social class are valued.

The realtor isn’t stick thin.

All the more reason to smoke if it helps her keep her weight down.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m enjoying the reboot, though I realize I’m in the minority. SATC was always a little cheesy, a little bombastic, very much not relatable to me. But there’s something about watching the characters age (somewhat) gracefully and deal with their various issues, however token they seem. I’ll keep watching

I feel the same. I am really impressed actually that they have made this feel like an authentic continuation of the old series - not some hammy, fan service watered down disappointing version, like those terrible SATC movies (or the Gilmore Girls Year in the Life).

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t really buy “hate watching” as a concept. You’re watching because it’s entertaining, even if objectively you know it’s not high art. We used to call these show guilty pleasures—but I think people need to feel cooler than that these days.

There are shows I actually hate, and I couldn’t sit through them and post about them here. Who has that much free time?

You have enough time to post about how you don’t hate-watch, and others shouldn’t, too, so there’s that.

I didn’t say you “shouldn’t”—I’m saying if you’re watching the series and posting about it, you may be liking it more than you’re willing to admit.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m enjoying the reboot, though I realize I’m in the minority. SATC was always a little cheesy, a little bombastic, very much not relatable to me. But there’s something about watching the characters age (somewhat) gracefully and deal with their various issues, however token they seem. I’ll keep watching

I feel the same. I am really impressed actually that they have made this feel like an authentic continuation of the old series - not some hammy, fan service watered down disappointing version, like those terrible SATC movies (or the Gilmore Girls Year in the Life).

Me too. I hated the movies and would never rewatch them. But I’m enjoying the series. If feels largely the same to me as the OG. Except ep 1, which I thought was more like the movie. I think Carrie and Big together were just really boring and inauthentic. I’d rather watch Charlotte and Harry.

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Anonymous wrote:It's honestly unbelievable how selfish and unlikable Miranda has become. And she's not remotely cool enough for Che. Just pathetic.

LOL, I agree about Miranda except Che is neither cool nor funny except in the delusional universe of this show. I’ve never seen a less funny alleged comedy show.

+1 https://www.thedailybeast.com/and-just-like-thats-che-diaz-is-the-worst-character-on-tv?ref=author

Article is hilarious! Che is awful

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Anonymous wrote:It's honestly unbelievable how selfish and unlikable Miranda has become. And she's not remotely cool enough for Che. Just pathetic.

LOL, I agree about Miranda except Che is neither cool nor funny except in the delusional universe of this show. I’ve never seen a less funny alleged comedy show.

+1 https://www.thedailybeast.com/and-just-like-thats-che-diaz-is-the-worst-character-on-tv?ref=author

Article is hilarious! Che is awful

I feel terrible for Sara Ramirez.