McLean leaving FVU

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who’s nm or ml?

Former gfr, Union, McLean, dmv, and Herndon coaches.

Club hoppers looking for the higher salary at every turn while vomiting the words ‘youth development, process, mission’

Hahahah

If you think any club or coach in youth soccer cares more about youth development than their profit/salary, then you have been sleeping under a rock. Welcome to the world, kid. Money is the bottom line for everyone involved. Ppl change jobs/companies all the time so why is it different for career coaches. That too over the span of many many years. Are you at the same job you were at 5 years ago?

What about the part time coaches? They’re on the field every night and weekend for the money?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who’s nm or ml?

Former gfr, Union, McLean, dmv, and Herndon coaches.

Club hoppers looking for the higher salary at every turn while vomiting the words ‘youth development, process, mission’

Hahahah

If you think any club or coach in youth soccer cares more about youth development than their profit/salary, then you have been sleeping under a rock. Welcome to the world, kid. Money is the bottom line for everyone involved. Ppl change jobs/companies all the time so why is it different for career coaches. That too over the span of many many years. Are you at the same job you were at 5 years ago?

What about the part time coaches? They’re on the field every night and weekend for the money?

You don’t think they get paid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

The DA was USSF. GA and MLSN aren’t ussf. The DA stunk and failed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's up with the rumored parent revolt at FVU, is it about one team or are multiple group of parents in revolt? What are they upset about exactly?

This is a rumor I heard so could be nothing to it, but why not ask here.

The rumor that has players following NM to Bethesda would be devastating to ECNL VA

Yet another example of coaches using players as currency to ensure their salaries.

Someone wrote in another thread that they were OP on this and totally made it up to see who would bite. It’s in the Bethesda Girls thread. So wouldn’t put too much stock here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

If JH had connections than McLean would have got MLS1. He does not have connections and has zero credibility in youth soccer. He isn’t well liked in any circles and going behind Clyde’s back isn’t going to help his reputation. You know that reputation that ruined the chemistry of a World Cup team.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who’s nm or ml?

Former gfr, Union, McLean, dmv, and Herndon coaches.

Club hoppers looking for the higher salary at every turn while vomiting the words ‘youth development, process, mission’

Hahahah

If you think any club or coach in youth soccer cares more about youth development than their profit/salary, then you have been sleeping under a rock. Welcome to the world, kid. Money is the bottom line for everyone involved. Ppl change jobs/companies all the time so why is it different for career coaches. That too over the span of many many years. Are you at the same job you were at 5 years ago?

What about the part time coaches? They’re on the field every night and weekend for the money?

You don’t think they get paid?

These coaches should coach for free out of the kindness of their hearts! They can just use love, sunshine and rainbows to pay for food, clothing and bills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

If JH had connections than McLean would have got MLS1. He does not have connections and has zero credibility in youth soccer. He isn’t well liked in any circles and going behind Clyde’s back isn’t going to help his reputation. You know that reputation that ruined the chemistry of a World Cup team.

He had the pull to get MYS MLS2 without waiting. Legitimately MYS is not MLS1 caliber but if they perform they’ll get moved up. JH has a lot of pull. CW reputation was built when there were only two elite teams in the area. His communication and management skills are widely known to be terrible. MYS hitting reset on a lot of these characters including CW, NM, JA, etc.

It was obviously broken in the last several years so the revamp is on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

And the same will happen with the 2014's next year. FVU made sure that they got DB and CW to lure away 2013's this year and 2014's next year to FVU. After 2014s MYS is very weak. This is the beginning of the end for MYS girls youth program.

2014G top team, in Fall season 2024, they earned 220 points (check Gotsport ranking).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

And the same will happen with the 2014's next year. FVU made sure that they got DB and CW to lure away 2013's this year and 2014's next year to FVU. After 2014s MYS is very weak. This is the beginning of the end for MYS girls youth program.

2014G top team, in Fall season 2024, they earned 220 points (check Gotsport ranking).

Is that a lot of points?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

If JH had connections than McLean would have got MLS1. He does not have connections and has zero credibility in youth soccer. He isn’t well liked in any circles and going behind Clyde’s back isn’t going to help his reputation. You know that reputation that ruined the chemistry of a World Cup team.

He had the pull to get MYS MLS2 without waiting. Legitimately MYS is not MLS1 caliber but if they perform they’ll get moved up. JH has a lot of pull. CW reputation was built when there were only two elite teams in the area. His communication and management skills are widely known to be terrible. MYS hitting reset on a lot of these characters including CW, NM, JA, etc.

It was obviously broken in the last several years so the revamp is on.

I don’t know if one post could contain so much BS and lies.
Did anyone need any pull to get MLS2? Literally they gave it to anyone that wanted it. FCV got MLS2 and they are known as a girls club.
CW won a national championship and was coach of the year before the ECNL ever existed so the whole two elite team thing is just BS. McLean was given ECNL because of CW’s reputation.
His communication and management is widely known as terrible? By who? And tell me about Harkes’ great communication and management?
The only truth you said in this post was they are doing a reset. The point is it was stupid to do a reset. What was broken over the last few years? They have had arguably the best graduating class EVERY year for the past 20 years. Mclean might never have another power 4 commit with the decision to go GA.
And the reset has not started well as I have heard they have struggled to find a girls director.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

And the same will happen with the 2014's next year. FVU made sure that they got DB and CW to lure away 2013's this year and 2014's next year to FVU. After 2014s MYS is very weak. This is the beginning of the end for MYS girls youth program.

2014G top team, in Fall season 2024, they earned 220 points (check Gotsport ranking).

No, but you can safely ignore anyone who uses got soccer for any kind of ranking.

Is that a lot of points?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

If JH had connections than McLean would have got MLS1. He does not have connections and has zero credibility in youth soccer. He isn’t well liked in any circles and going behind Clyde’s back isn’t going to help his reputation. You know that reputation that ruined the chemistry of a World Cup team.

He had the pull to get MYS MLS2 without waiting. Legitimately MYS is not MLS1 caliber but if they perform they’ll get moved up. JH has a lot of pull. CW reputation was built when there were only two elite teams in the area. His communication and management skills are widely known to be terrible. MYS hitting reset on a lot of these characters including CW, NM, JA, etc.

It was obviously broken in the last several years so the revamp is on.

I don’t know if one post could contain so much BS and lies.
Did anyone need any pull to get MLS2? Literally they gave it to anyone that wanted it. FCV got MLS2 and they are known as a girls club.
CW won a national championship and was coach of the year before the ECNL ever existed so the whole two elite team thing is just BS. McLean was given ECNL because of CW’s reputation.
His communication and management is widely known as terrible? By who? And tell me about Harkes’ great communication and management?
The only truth you said in this post was they are doing a reset. The point is it was stupid to do a reset. What was broken over the last few years? They have had arguably the best graduating class EVERY year for the past 20 years. Mclean might never have another power 4 commit with the decision to go GA.
And the reset has not started well as I have heard they have struggled to find a girls director.

Not pp but they’re right about 2 elite teams. McLean and FC Virginia were the only ECNL clubs in the area for years. How could they not build elite teams when they had their pick of everyone in northern Virginia? Bethesda was the only one in Maryland. There were three teams for this entire region. There was no dilution. They literally got any player they wanted and they still couldn’t do anything. CW’s communication is awful and he’s collecting paycheck. Just get his cell phone number and your daughter will play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

And the same will happen with the 2014's next year. FVU made sure that they got DB and CW to lure away 2013's this year and 2014's next year to FVU. After 2014s MYS is very weak. This is the beginning of the end for MYS girls youth program.

2014G top team, in Fall season 2024, they earned 220 points (check Gotsport ranking).

That means they lost most games.

Is that a lot of points?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In 2-3 years Mclean will be much better. The GA exodus and MLS 2 is a hump. Player retention has improved with younger age groups. They just need to stop switching coaches around too often and let them grow through the 9-12 phase.

I rarely hear anything bad of the coaches. They are not the most well known around but do compete with bigger clubs.

How will McLean be better off? Harkes hasn’t even finished a full year and they went from national powerhouse with multiple players excelling at a pro level to an absolute joke. They traded the girls history for a second division on the boys side.
And player retention has improved? They lost almost all their players for both the boys and girls at 2013.

FVU was much better right(with 7 clubs and counting)? I wouldnt blame someone who took over a dumpster fire and hitting the reset button to build a program. CW let the boys side fall apart as TD and now someone has to clean up. JH has the best connections in all of the DMV, if they joined MLS2 it is to be MLS1 in 2-3 years.

No offense but if achilles and west virginia have MLS1 then anyone with connections can get it. The rest will be up to the quality of the coaches. The only reason ECNL got to where it is was because DA went under during covid and they picked up all the opportunistic scraps.

MLS and GA will take over under the US Federation. ECNL is under US Club soccer, MLS and GA are USSF.

If JH had connections than McLean would have got MLS1. He does not have connections and has zero credibility in youth soccer. He isn’t well liked in any circles and going behind Clyde’s back isn’t going to help his reputation. You know that reputation that ruined the chemistry of a World Cup team.

He had the pull to get MYS MLS2 without waiting. Legitimately MYS is not MLS1 caliber but if they perform they’ll get moved up. JH has a lot of pull. CW reputation was built when there were only two elite teams in the area. His communication and management skills are widely known to be terrible. MYS hitting reset on a lot of these characters including CW, NM, JA, etc.

It was obviously broken in the last several years so the revamp is on.

I don’t know if one post could contain so much BS and lies.
Did anyone need any pull to get MLS2? Literally they gave it to anyone that wanted it. FCV got MLS2 and they are known as a girls club.
CW won a national championship and was coach of the year before the ECNL ever existed so the whole two elite team thing is just BS. McLean was given ECNL because of CW’s reputation.
His communication and management is widely known as terrible? By who? And tell me about Harkes’ great communication and management?
The only truth you said in this post was they are doing a reset. The point is it was stupid to do a reset. What was broken over the last few years? They have had arguably the best graduating class EVERY year for the past 20 years. Mclean might never have another power 4 commit with the decision to go GA.
And the reset has not started well as I have heard they have struggled to find a girls director.

Coppermine has some of the best boys teams and have facilities, they got MLS2. Soooo..

You seem like a bitter parent that had to go to FVU(Which is a sinking ship) or you have no clue what goes on in club management.

Also, CW is not going to live forever, over the years hes lost touch with management, he damaged his reputation the way he handled his move to FVU. He trusted NM, DB, ML and look where they are now.
NM and ML were profiting off GFR, also mclean.
DB only recruits off the back of parents, go watch his teams play, no principles.
CW had these guys protected at mclean and it backfired on him. Well deserved, he blew mclean up because of his lack of professionalism.