Anybody following the Karen Read trial in Boston?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.


+1

Karen Read = Casey Anthony = OJ Simpson.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.


Anyone who still thinks he was hit by a car must not have watched the second trial.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:But it happened. Higgins drove to the army base on the cape to dump his. He testified to this in the first trial.


Sure, he may have done this but pretending this was standard police procedure is a total lie, and indicates he was destroying his device for some reason other than just wanting to protect his sources or whatever he was claiming was on his phone legitimately.

Come on. There’s a tech person in every police dept that wipes devices or destroys them when they are obsolete. Police don’t individually decide how to handle information. It is regulated.

This PO dept was a total farce and anyone saying she was acquitted because of her lies and turtle boy blah blah is not facing reality.

I personally believe they had a fight in the house and dumped him outside or something along those lines, but I really don’t know.

What I do know, is that the police and that group were shady liars.


I never said it was standard police procedure.


Right so at minimum he was willing to break police rules and obviously had something illegal or unethical on his phone. That’s a bare minimum with this guy who ‘slept through’ a dead guy and ambulances etc on his front lawn. Come on
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.


+1

Karen Read = Casey Anthony = OJ Simpson.


Like it or not, all were found not guilty.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks cops randomly decided to take out a buddy and frame his drunk wife needs to delete their crime podcast apps. Listening to that crap every day has fried your brain.


+1

Karen Read = Casey Anthony = OJ Simpson.


Like it or not, all were found not guilty.


The Casey Anthony case was a blatant over charge leading to nothing. They didn't have proof of how the kid died, yet they death certified and had to try to prove aggravating factors for the death penalty.

A good prosecutor hates a media case or ignores it as much as possible. A bad one lets the media storm cause them to charge past evidence and not try to do a plea to something they might be able to actually get (like a manslaughter charge).
Anonymous
Question for those who believe Karen Read is guilty: what if an eye witness came forward or a video was found that showed, without a doubt that John O’Keefe’s death was a slip and fall accident? So, no one would be to blame, it would just be a very sad accident.

How would you feel about this trial if it were proven that no one is to blame for John’s death? How would you feel about Karen Read and the idea that she had been unjustly accused? Would you feel understanding that she had to fight for innocence in court, or would you maybe find it hard to accept that she didn’t do it after thinking of her as guilty all this time?

Just curious if anybody who thinks she is guilty would feel bad if they learned that there was some incontrovertible proof that she had nothing to do with it.
Anonymous
Didn’t make the average dcum commenter as a thin blue line kind of person. She may have done it. Probably greater than 50% chance. But with no evidence and a whole lot of cops making shit up there was never a chance at a conviction.
Anonymous
The irony is that the cops wanting it to be her fault and no other explanation is what led to her being convicted for manslaughter an impossibility. Their actions and inactions led to these results.
Anonymous
So now the jurors are saying that they weren’t 100% sure she was guilty, they were 99% sure but that didn’t cut it. If this is the way juries are moving to then I think we’re going to have a big problem in our criminal justice system.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for those who believe Karen Read is guilty: what if an eye witness came forward or a video was found that showed, without a doubt that John O’Keefe’s death was a slip and fall accident? So, no one would be to blame, it would just be a very sad accident.

How would you feel about this trial if it were proven that no one is to blame for John’s death? How would you feel about Karen Read and the idea that she had been unjustly accused? Would you feel understanding that she had to fight for innocence in court, or would you maybe find it hard to accept that she didn’t do it after thinking of her as guilty all this time?

Just curious if anybody who thinks she is guilty would feel bad if they learned that there was some incontrovertible proof that she had nothing to do with it.


If there were video, I would accept it immediately.

Since you asked, if there were video of KR hitting him, would you accept it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So now the jurors are saying that they weren’t 100% sure she was guilty, they were 99% sure but that didn’t cut it. If this is the way juries are moving to then I think we’re going to have a big problem in our criminal justice system.



That isn’t what they’re saying. The jurors who have spoken out so far have said that some weren’t sure but there was enough reasonable doubt (particularly around the fact her taillight was illuminated in the tow truck and 5am videos) that it was a NG verdict. It was 100% consistent with the law and that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The CW did not prove guilt.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now the jurors are saying that they weren’t 100% sure she was guilty, they were 99% sure but that didn’t cut it. If this is the way juries are moving to then I think we’re going to have a big problem in our criminal justice system.



That isn’t what they’re saying. The jurors who have spoken out so far have said that some weren’t sure but there was enough reasonable doubt (particularly around the fact her taillight was illuminated in the tow truck and 5am videos) that it was a NG verdict. It was 100% consistent with the law and that you are presumed innocent until proven guilty. The CW did not prove guilt.


"At first for me, I thought Karen Read was actually maybe guilty of manslaughter in the beginning. But as the weeks passed by, I just realized there was too many holes that we couldn't fill and there is nothing that put her on the scene in our opinion besides just dropping John O'Keefe off," Prado said.

"And the taillight, the injuries on his arm didn't make much sense that come from a taillight for us," she said.

She said the last witness from ARCCA did a very good job making it clear for her. "We couldn't prove there was a collision, and she was responsible for John's death," Prado said.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/boston/news/karen...uror-speaks-verdict/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Question for those who believe Karen Read is guilty: what if an eye witness came forward or a video was found that showed, without a doubt that John O’Keefe’s death was a slip and fall accident? So, no one would be to blame, it would just be a very sad accident.

How would you feel about this trial if it were proven that no one is to blame for John’s death? How would you feel about Karen Read and the idea that she had been unjustly accused? Would you feel understanding that she had to fight for innocence in court, or would you maybe find it hard to accept that she didn’t do it after thinking of her as guilty all this time?

Just curious if anybody who thinks she is guilty would feel bad if they learned that there was some incontrovertible proof that she had nothing to do with it.


Feel bad? No. I would be super surprised at the coincidences though and I would think Karen has some serious 6th sense ability.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So now the jurors are saying that they weren’t 100% sure she was guilty, they were 99% sure but that didn’t cut it. If this is the way juries are moving to then I think we’re going to have a big problem in our criminal justice system.



Oh, please. The problem with our system is that rich, white collar criminals are getting away with financial crimes every day that affect us all. And the biggest white collar criminal of all is in the Oval Office. Clearly, Americans haven’t cared about justice in decades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Question for those who believe Karen Read is guilty: what if an eye witness came forward or a video was found that showed, without a doubt that John O’Keefe’s death was a slip and fall accident? So, no one would be to blame, it would just be a very sad accident.

How would you feel about this trial if it were proven that no one is to blame for John’s death? How would you feel about Karen Read and the idea that she had been unjustly accused? Would you feel understanding that she had to fight for innocence in court, or would you maybe find it hard to accept that she didn’t do it after thinking of her as guilty all this time?

Just curious if anybody who thinks she is guilty would feel bad if they learned that there was some incontrovertible proof that she had nothing to do with it.


If there were video, I would accept it immediately.

Since you asked, if there were video of KR hitting him, would you accept it?


DP yes. Why do you assume that no one is capable of letting evidence determine their opinions?
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