NPS: Ban Cars Now in DC Urban Parks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

Oh, hey Adam! It’s really impressive how you keep trying despite the complete lack of support for your crusade. Twitter was a failure, no news reporter would talk to you, and I’m guessing your website was a total flop. So now you’re telling DCUM? Sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

Oh, hey Adam! It’s really impressive how you keep trying despite the complete lack of support for your crusade. Twitter was a failure, no news reporter would talk to you, and I’m guessing your website was a total flop. So now you’re telling DCUM? Sad.

Who's Adam and wtf are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

Oh, hey Adam! It’s really impressive how you keep trying despite the complete lack of support for your crusade. Twitter was a failure, no news reporter would talk to you, and I’m guessing your website was a total flop. So now you’re telling DCUM? Sad.

Who's Adam and wtf are you talking about?

I’m laughing at you and your two MAGA buddies. No one cares what you think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

Oh, hey Adam! It’s really impressive how you keep trying despite the complete lack of support for your crusade. Twitter was a failure, no news reporter would talk to you, and I’m guessing your website was a total flop. So now you’re telling DCUM? Sad.

Who's Adam and wtf are you talking about?

I’m laughing at you and your two MAGA buddies. No one cares what you think.

I'm not Adam. I'm also not MAGA. Still have no idea wtf you are talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

Oh, hey Adam! It’s really impressive how you keep trying despite the complete lack of support for your crusade. Twitter was a failure, no news reporter would talk to you, and I’m guessing your website was a total flop. So now you’re telling DCUM? Sad.

Who's Adam and wtf are you talking about?

I’m laughing at you and your two MAGA buddies. No one cares what you think.

I'm not Adam. I'm also not MAGA. Still have no idea wtf you are talking about.

If I were you I’d also be ashamed of myself and the company I keep.

[Anonymous]

DP. The weird thing about cyclists is that they think everyone cares about cycling and cyclists. We don’t, okay. No ones going to congratulate you because you think you’re morally superior. Get over yourselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.

Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.

So because you are at a red light in a car, and a bike slows down, assesses and determines it is safe for them to continue, that gets you upset? And in terms of stopping at stop signs, have you heard of the "Idaho Stop?" Many states have adopted this as a very safe option. Get used to it.

Many states that do not include Washington DC, Virginia, or Maryland, right? I know everyone does it anyway and most of the time it's done safely, but it's not actually legal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.

Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.

So because you are at a red light in a car, and a bike slows down, assesses and determines it is safe for them to continue, that gets you upset? And in terms of stopping at stop signs, have you heard of the "Idaho Stop?" Many states have adopted this as a very safe option. Get used to it.

Many states that do not include Washington DC, Virginia, or Maryland, right? I know everyone does it anyway and most of the time it's done safely, but it's not actually legal.

Most drivers do the Idaho stop at stop signs too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.

Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.

So because you are at a red light in a car, and a bike slows down, assesses and determines it is safe for them to continue, that gets you upset? And in terms of stopping at stop signs, have you heard of the "Idaho Stop?" Many states have adopted this as a very safe option. Get used to it.

Many states that do not include Washington DC, Virginia, or Maryland, right? I know everyone does it anyway and most of the time it's done safely, but it's not actually legal.

Most drivers do the Idaho stop at stop signs too.

Yep. Stake out any corner on Capitol Hill with a four-way stop sign. Take a shot every time you see a driver come to a complete stop if there isn't an obstacle directly in front of them. You'll be stone-cold sober at the end of the day.

[Anonymous]

From what I've seen, Hains Point is a pretty popular location for African-American families to have cookouts, usually involving a fair number of people of all ages (from little kids to seniors). Banning cars in this park would make those types of gatherings very difficult, if not impossible.

I'm guessing the people in favor of the ban on cars don't care about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.

Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.

No. Just somebody that walks a lot and has had orders of magnitude more close calls with bicyclists than drivers.

I guess you do all of your walking on the Capital Crescent Trail?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I've seen, Hains Point is a pretty popular location for African-American families to have cookouts, usually involving a fair number of people of all ages (from little kids to seniors). Banning cars in this park would make those types of gatherings very difficult, if not impossible.

I'm guessing the people in favor of the ban on cars don't care about that.

Or park and walk? It’s not that hard to figure out a way for everyone to use the space safely. You just don’t need to be able to drive 100% of the park.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From what I've seen, Hains Point is a pretty popular location for African-American families to have cookouts, usually involving a fair number of people of all ages (from little kids to seniors). Banning cars in this park would make those types of gatherings very difficult, if not impossible.

I'm guessing the people in favor of the ban on cars don't care about that.

Why would you guess that?

Hains Point is also a pretty popular location for African-American people to walk - and, ideally, not have someone run them over and kill them.

https://dcist.com/story/21/04/27/everyones-numb-and-devastated-two-homeless-advocates-killed-by-driver-at-hains-point/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. The weird thing about cyclists is that they think everyone cares about cycling and cyclists. We don’t, okay. No ones going to congratulate you because you think you’re morally superior. Get over yourselves.

I think you've identified the most annoying thing about self-declared cyclists, who I would consider to be a subset of the people who ride bikes. There's a sense of moral superiority about their choice of transportation that you don't see in people who walk, take public transit, or drive. Every argument for more bicycle infrastructure has an almost religious undertone because cycling is the One True Way to travel.