NPS: Ban Cars Now in DC Urban Parks

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


Are you referring to an "Idaho stop" law, where bicyclists may treat stop signs and red lights as yield signs? DC doesn't have that. I wish that DC did, because it makes the roads safer for bicyclists, but DC doesn't.

Also, where different traffic laws apply to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers, that's not an "exemption," that's just different traffic laws applying to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers.

You wouldn't say that DC has given an exemption to car drivers, by not requiring them to have a CDL, would you?


Everytime you lie and dissemble you reveal the paucity of your argument.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.


Hi, I'm your neighbor. I walk, I bike, I take the bus, I drive.


You drive well and I'm sure you can manage to navigate the sidewalks on foot just fine. You only seem to behave like a douche while on your bike...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


Are you referring to an "Idaho stop" law, where bicyclists may treat stop signs and red lights as yield signs? DC doesn't have that. I wish that DC did, because it makes the roads safer for bicyclists, but DC doesn't.

Also, where different traffic laws apply to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers, that's not an "exemption," that's just different traffic laws applying to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers.

You wouldn't say that DC has given an exemption to car drivers, by not requiring them to have a CDL, would you?


Everytime you lie and dissemble you reveal the paucity of your argument.


Could you please cite the part of DC law that allows bicyclists to do an "Idaho stop"?

Bicyclists are allowed to treat stop signs as yield signs in Idaho, Delaware, Arkansas, Washington (the state), Utah, and North Dakota. Bicyclists are allowed to treat red lights as yield signs in Idaho and Arkansas. In Colorado, state law gives local jurisdictions the option of legalizing both practices.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.


Hi, I'm your neighbor. I walk, I bike, I take the bus, I drive.


You drive well and I'm sure you can manage to navigate the sidewalks on foot just fine. You only seem to behave like a douche while on your bike...


No, I'm the same person while walking, biking, taking the bus, and driving. You have a problem with people on bikes. Which endangers people on bikes (like me, your neighbor).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:someone resurrected this thread to continue ranting about bikes? how about we actually find out the identity of the driver who killed these people and whether they are being charged?


It's highly unlikely that the driver will be charged, unless the driver was driving drunk.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


Are you referring to an "Idaho stop" law, where bicyclists may treat stop signs and red lights as yield signs? DC doesn't have that. I wish that DC did, because it makes the roads safer for bicyclists, but DC doesn't.

Also, where different traffic laws apply to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers, that's not an "exemption," that's just different traffic laws applying to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers.

You wouldn't say that DC has given an exemption to car drivers, by not requiring them to have a CDL, would you?


Everytime you lie and dissemble you reveal the paucity of your argument.


Could you please cite the part of DC law that allows bicyclists to do an "Idaho stop"?

Bicyclists are allowed to treat stop signs as yield signs in Idaho, Delaware, Arkansas, Washington (the state), Utah, and North Dakota. Bicyclists are allowed to treat red lights as yield signs in Idaho and Arkansas. In Colorado, state law gives local jurisdictions the option of legalizing both practices.


No. You don't get to waste my time like that. You haven't even denied anything that i've said. DC does not have "Idaho Stop" laws BUT it's bicylcist rules are similar.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


Are you referring to an "Idaho stop" law, where bicyclists may treat stop signs and red lights as yield signs? DC doesn't have that. I wish that DC did, because it makes the roads safer for bicyclists, but DC doesn't.

Also, where different traffic laws apply to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers, that's not an "exemption," that's just different traffic laws applying to bicyclists and motor-vehicle drivers.

You wouldn't say that DC has given an exemption to car drivers, by not requiring them to have a CDL, would you?


Everytime you lie and dissemble you reveal the paucity of your argument.


Could you please cite the part of DC law that allows bicyclists to do an "Idaho stop"?

Bicyclists are allowed to treat stop signs as yield signs in Idaho, Delaware, Arkansas, Washington (the state), Utah, and North Dakota. Bicyclists are allowed to treat red lights as yield signs in Idaho and Arkansas. In Colorado, state law gives local jurisdictions the option of legalizing both practices.


No. You don't get to waste my time like that. You haven't even denied anything that i've said. DC does not have "Idaho Stop" laws BUT it's bicylcist rules are similar.


NP. I’ve been biking in DC for over 15 years, I’m pretty familiar with the laws here and I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.




Luckily, hardly anyone actually rides bicycles in DC.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

No. You don't get to waste my time like that. You haven't even denied anything that i've said. DC does not have "Idaho Stop" laws BUT it's bicylcist rules are similar.


Please cite the parts of DC law that say what you claim.

While you're at it, please cite the parts of DC law that require pedestrians to stop at stop signs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.


Luckily, hardly anyone actually rides bicycles in DC.


People with vision impairment like yours should not be allowed to drive.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.


Luckily, hardly anyone actually rides bicycles in DC.


People with vision impairment like yours should not be allowed to drive.


What are you taking about? They can see just fine if they look up from their phones.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I mean, even bicyclists hate bicyclists. If there's anything we can all agree upon, it's that people on bikes are the worst.


Hi, I'm your neighbor. I walk, I bike, I take the bus, I drive.


You drive well and I'm sure you can manage to navigate the sidewalks on foot just fine. You only seem to behave like a douche while on your bike...


No, I'm the same person while walking, biking, taking the bus, and driving. You have a problem with people on bikes. Which endangers people on bikes (like me, your neighbor).


Nah. I have never come close to hitting or endangering anyone on a bike.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


Only someone who hasn't ridden a bike in 30+ years would post this. Physics is your friend, on a bike.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


So because you are at a red light in a car, and a bike slows down, assesses and determines it is safe for them to continue, that gets you upset? And in terms of stopping at stop signs, have you heard of the "Idaho Stop?" Many states have adopted this as a very safe option. Get used to it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC has given an exemption to traffic rules for bicyclists. An exemption they dont get in MD or VA. It may be legal but that doesn't mean it is either right or good policy.


What exemption, specifically, are you referring to? Please explain.


Stopping at red lights and stop signs. As has been stated repeatedly.


So because you are at a red light in a car, and a bike slows down, assesses and determines it is safe for them to continue, that gets you upset? And in terms of stopping at stop signs, have you heard of the "Idaho Stop?" Many states have adopted this as a very safe option. Get used to it.[/quote
No. Because I am a pedestrian I am sick and tired of bicyclists almost running me over and thinking that they are better and more important than the rest of us

The Idaho Stop is not safer for pedestrians.
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