What’s up with parents not wearing masks at the playground?

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Anonymous wrote:All you people who are still wearing masks after being vaccinated are holding back society. Be free! Science doesn’t support you wearing a mask after being vaccinated. Wake up.

that's NOT true - the CDC recommends that those vaccinated fully continue to wear masks and practice social distancing when with people who are not vaccinated. Because we (I'm vaccinated fully) can still spread covid to others they think - they are studying this so this might change but at this time, haven't you seen the "I'm fully vaccinated but I still wear a mask and socially distance" ads?

CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html

when with fully vaccinated people, you may go mask-free. with unvaccinated people, keep mask on. (and more but this is about masks)

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Anonymous wrote:Masks are only recommended outside when 6’ of distance can’t be maintained. It’s fine. Really.

Not true. Even for fully vaccinated people CDC recommends to: "continue to wear masks and stay 6 feet apart from other people in other settings, like when they are in public or visiting with unvaccinated people from multiple households.

The CDC also recommends that we all cook our steaks well done, and that all eggs should be hard-boiled. Their recommendations are well on the side of overly cautious.

And women should never have more than one drink in 24 hours. We should all be avoiding sushi and over easy eggs too.

I mean, the type of people who work for the CDC and come up with these guidelines are probably incredibly careful, cautious, socially anxious germophobes. The type of lifestyle they propose isn't worth living.

+1. WHO says 3 feet? Let’s double it. WHO says mask 5 year olds? Let’s mask 2 year olds.

+1. The travel guidelines too. Party on in your own state but if you cross the border to go camping, test and quarantine for a week when you return home.

Right. Somehow, it's okay for my kid, who is in DCPS, to go skiing in Wisp (since it's just barely inside Maryland), but not Snowshoe (which is just barely outside of Virginia). You can go party in Ocean City, Maryland, but not Dewey Beach, Delaware.

These rules stopped making sense a long time ago. We pretty much ignore them.

You and many other people, which is why covid continues to spread.

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I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

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Outdoors and distanced? Why would you wear a mask. And the whole point of masking after vax is just to avoid the kind of "vax not vaxxed" issues that might pop up. Everyone knows you don't need to mask after vax.

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Anonymous wrote:Outdoors and distanced? Why would you wear a mask. And the whole point of masking after vax is just to avoid the kind of "vax not vaxxed" issues that might pop up. Everyone knows you don't need to mask after vax.

who is everyone? You?

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I took my kid and his two cousins to Palisades Park this afternoon. They were the only ones unmasked. We laughed about it on the way home. People around here are nuts.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot understand the kind of person who gets bothered by this.

Do you know how covid is spread? You need close, unventilated interactions for a period of time. There is zero indication covid is being spread running around in open, outdoor playgrounds, especially if kids are not constantly on top of each other.

What's even worse is these mask strictists often pretend to support science. I feel so bad for the kids who have parents that have uncontrolled mental health and rope the kids into their issues.

That is the main way it is spread, but not the only way. Kids are gross. They sneeze and cough all over each other. How does it hurt you if someone else wears a mask. Not at all.

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Anonymous wrote:Outdoors and distanced? Why would you wear a mask. And the whole point of masking after vax is just to avoid the kind of "vax not vaxxed" issues that might pop up. Everyone knows you don't need to mask after vax.

No the recommendation is for everyone to keep masking unless everyone in the group is fully vaccinated if you are indoors or unable to socially distance. If you are outside AND social distanced I don't think it's a big deal to take off your mask.

There are cases of people transmitting it outdoors, but you need proximity and enough time.

So sick of morons like you continuing to spread disinformation just so you can justify taking your mask off all the time.

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re you seriously questioning whether masks are necessary in schools. Multiple studies have supported that masks and other mitigation strategies are the key to safely keeping schools open. And we need schools to stay open.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/sci...ssion_k_12_schools.html#ftn-50

"When mitigation strategies – especially mask use and physical distancing – are consistently and correctly used, the risk of transmission in the school environment is decreased.50 CDC’s school guidance for COVID-19 emphasizes 5 key mitigation strategies: consistent and correct use of masks, physical distancing, handwashing and respiratory etiquette, cleaning and ventilation, and contact tracing in combination with isolation and quarantine. Use of multiple strategies – sometimes called layered mitigation – provides greater protection in breaking transmission chains than implementing a single strategy.51 The guidance recommends layering two or more mitigation strategies, with particular emphasis on universal use of masks and physical distancing."

That doesn’t separate the effectiveness of individual NPIs or compare outcomes in mask vs. mask optional schools. We have had worse outcomes than countries that don’t expect students to mask.

- Pediatricians in Canada advise against kids wearing masks for the school day.

https://www.sickkids.ca/siteassets/news/news-archive/2020/covid19-recommendations-for-school-reopening-sickkids.pdf

- Denmark and Sweden haven’t required students to mask

- Norway requires masks during passing periods

- Germany didn’t require them when windows were open

We know some schools in Florida are mask optional. Florida has done no worse than California, where extended school closures continue to harm students.

Kids in Sweden have attended maskless, and this was prior to teacher vaccination.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2026670

Data from the Public Health Agency of Sweden (published report5 and personal communication) showed that fewer than 10 preschool teachers and 20 schoolteachers in Sweden received intensive care for Covid-19 up until June 30, 2020 (20 per 103,596 schoolteachers, which is equal to 19 per 100,000). As compared with other occupations (excluding health care workers), this corresponded to sex- and age-adjusted relative risks of 1.10 (95% confidence interval [CI], 0.49 to 2.49) among preschool teachers and 0.43 (95% CI, 0.28 to 0.68) among schoolteachers

But for secondary school teachers there was increased risk of illness without the masks.

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Anonymous wrote:Outdoors and distanced? Why would you wear a mask. And the whole point of masking after vax is just to avoid the kind of "vax not vaxxed" issues that might pop up. Everyone knows you don't need to mask after vax.

No the recommendation is for everyone to keep masking unless everyone in the group is fully vaccinated if you are indoors or unable to socially distance. If you are outside AND social distanced I don't think it's a big deal to take off your mask.

There are cases of people transmitting it outdoors, but you need proximity and enough time.

So sick of morons like you continuing to spread disinformation just so you can justify taking your mask off all the time.

Masking after being vaccinated has nothing to do with the spread of the virus, but is a simple public policy measure. If vaccinated people stop wearing masks, unvaccinated people will do the same, which will ultimately lead to more disease and more deaths.

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science says outdoors with social media is almost zero chance of getting covid.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/03/13/covid-spread-outside-what-know-safety-masks-warm-weather/4642329001/

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Anonymous wrote:Took DD to the playground today. It was fairly crowded since it was nice weather. There were several moms who just weren’t wearing masks. There were at least 30 kids and 20 parents around.

Honestly, just use this info to plan your move. You should move to a place where more people think like you. I live in a place where everyone wears masks all the time, even today. I'm happy. I know there are lots of places where people don't wear masks, and if I were one of those types, then I'd move there.

Where do you live pp!? We mask everywhere outside. Double mask in fact. Because why not? What’s the downside. Cannot wait for this to be over tho. We’ve come so far, not sure why people think ok to just give up now.

The downside is that I don’t like suffocating. But that’s a personal preference snd I certainly respect if yours is different

Suffocating? LOL. Oh, can it with the everloving melodrama.

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Anonymous wrote:Because a thick mask is rather suffocating when outside, especially for little kids running around. But switching to something more "breathable" defeats the purpose, IMO.

Get better masks. My oldest has been in school since September. All the kids wear masks all day, including outside and in gym. Not a single case.

+1. But why do that, when they can just whine like toddlers that they’re “suffocating” and make excuses?

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Anonymous wrote:I tell my child to take her mask off outside. I do not wear a mask outside.

Do you realize how bad it is to be breathing through a dirty mask? You are putting your child at risk for all sorts of lung issues later in life.

Oh, please. Citation needed. Legitimate medical sources only, please.

We’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh shut up. I wear a mask at the playground personally to avoid conflict but of ALL the things to get worked up over. It’s fine. It’s outside.

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+2. I don’t want to lose friendships or make enemies with my neighbors, so I mask at the playground. If more people took a nuanced position around here, I would drop the mask outdoors.

I felt the same way. In our local smaller playgrounds Ive started talking to parents about mask wearing. Turns out they were just wearing it for me. And I them. When it was discussed, we agreed to take off the masks. This was only two weeks ago, but already more and more are joining us mask less.

And then the entire playground clapped.