Schools back in-person in 2022 due to mass-vaccine

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Anonymous wrote:I am completely repulsed by the teachers responding to this thread. Can you not see how you are turning the entire country against you? You have lost any respect you may have previously had.

We are currently looking to move our kids to private as soon as possible, and will not look back.

This comes across as “Teachers, hardly anyone respected you before. And now, no one respects you. You just need to shut up and be willing to die so we can get our kids out of the house already.”

Not very a persuasive approach.

Nothing is going to persuade the teachers. As a group they're not acting or negotiating in good faith. Focus on persuading the Boards of Education and administrators to force the issue so individual teachers can make the choice for themselves: return teaching, or find a different job.

Then who will teach your children? There aren't enough teachers as it is. There will be even fewer if you try to force them when we know and you know and they know that it isn't safe for them. Why is there such an intensity and fervor for this particular group of adults to literally be committing suicide because you didn't plan ahead and you aren't good at managing your children and your family?

They're not really teaching them now, so what's the difference? If there's really a shortage, something will change to attract more. It's the sort of thing that can work itself out after a year or two.

Would you really describe doctors and nurses going to work as "committing suicide"? Or grocery store workers? Or meat packers? Or bus operators?

And yes, I'm sorry I didn't get a special education degree so that I'd be prepared when I had an autistic son and special education programs shut down and half the private therapists closed and the other half were overbooked to the point of not even putting new patients on a wait list. Definitely should have foreseen that.

You decided to be a parent and now that it isn't cracked up to what you thought it would be you are foisting your child off on other people because you don't want to deal with him. Not everyone gets to go to Italy. A lot of people end up in Holland. We don't get mad about it, we deal with it. I don't understand why you don't understand that.

We are currently not in Italy or Holland. We're stuck in O'Hare, we've been here for 9 months, sleeping on the floor of the terminal. Our sister's kids are in school, our cousin's kids are in school, our friends' kids are in school. While we're stuck here at the airport, with no ticket, nothing.

Then you need to realize that even if the planes are flying, you aren't getting on one so you should go home. Why are you hanging around in the airport? That seems dumb and a complete waste of time.

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Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

How would I have lined up ABA therapy before he had an autism diagnosis?

I've got a flexible job, but having a flexible schedule doesn't mean I can go a year without working during business hours, since my job involves public interaction. My wife is a provider at a hospital, so she has almost no flexibility in her schedule. And even separate from that, there's not enough hours in the day to do what you're describing, also do a full-time job, and also sleep.

And a "pod," in general, isn't going to work well for an autistic preschooler. He's already in a very small daycare, but he clearly needs special services because he hasn't picked up any words in the last 6 months (hence the visit to the developmental pediatrician, which itself took forever to get in).

But by all means, keep feeling smug. Hopefully karma's a bitch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

How would I have lined up ABA therapy before he had an autism diagnosis?

I've got a flexible job, but having a flexible schedule doesn't mean I can go a year without working during business hours, since my job involves public interaction. My wife is a provider at a hospital, so she has almost no flexibility in her schedule. And even separate from that, there's not enough hours in the day to do what you're describing, also do a full-time job, and also sleep.

And a "pod," in general, isn't going to work well for an autistic preschooler. He's already in a very small daycare, but he clearly needs special services because he hasn't picked up any words in the last 6 months (hence the visit to the developmental pediatrician, which itself took forever to get in).

But by all means, keep feeling smug. Hopefully karma's a bitch.

Huh. How did he get a diagnosis from March until now? I think you're just another idiot who knows nothing about it trying to stir the pot. You get what you deserve, baby.

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Anonymous wrote:For those wondering, expect vaccinations to rollout and schools to be fully back in session (no hybrid or DL) in 2022 not 2021.

Below is an expected timeline for approval of a COVID vaccine.

After approval there will be the hurdles of mass production and mass adoption.

It's hard for me to imagine us getting past those steps before mid to late 2022.

I'd love to be wrong but I'm just being realistic.

My kids are back in school now. Every day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

DP. Out of curiosity, are you a diagnosed psychopath? You come across as one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

DP. Out of curiosity, are you a diagnosed psychopath? You come across as one.

Well, bless your heart! Nope. Just someone who is realistic and pragmatic, and who doesn't put up with a bunch of bs from people who would rather whine and complain than do something proactive and positive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

DP. Out of curiosity, are you a diagnosed psychopath? You come across as one.

Well, bless your heart! Nope. Just someone who is realistic and pragmatic, and who doesn't put up with a bunch of bs from people who would rather whine and complain than do something proactive and positive.

You don't sound particularly realistic or pragmatic to me. But you do sound like a psychopath. That having been said, many psychopaths are quite pragmatic, so perhaps that's why you see yourself that way. Interesting, in any event.

[Anonymous]

Every reasonable place is already back in school. The DMV is just run by idiots.

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Anonymous wrote:Every reasonable place is already back in school. The DMV is just run by idiots.

Amen. DMV & California are the two hold out areas.

These two areas are going to require a pediatric vaccine and we'll be lucky if we're back by 2023. Rich people are going private or moving out of state. The only people hurt are the poor and middle class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every reasonable place is already back in school. The DMV is just run by idiots.

Amen. DMV & California are the two hold out areas.

These two areas are going to require a pediatric vaccine and we'll be lucky if we're back by 2023. Rich people are going private or moving out of state. The only people hurt are the poor and middle class.

This! I am in CA and I agree.

[Anonymous]

+1. People on this board need to turn off CNN and realize the rest of the country is forging ahead safely and have been for MANY WEEKS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every reasonable place is already back in school. The DMV is just run by idiots.

Amen. DMV & California are the two hold out areas.

These two areas are going to require a pediatric vaccine and we'll be lucky if we're back by 2023. Rich people are going private or moving out of state. The only people hurt are the poor and middle class.

This! I am in CA and I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:(And I do realize 2:28 is a troll. I'm just curious what they'll say.)

I don't think they are a troll because I didn't write that post but I wholly agree. You -do- have to plan for emergencies. Granted the pandemic was unforeseeable; however school shutdowns have occurred because of the flu or fire or other circumstances. You're a dumb and careless parent if you don't consider your backup plan for that. Or if your childcare falls through unexpectedly.

In the case of the pandemic, I don't think anyone could have predicted the spring circumstances a year prior; however, this fall was completely predictable. In April and May members of my friends and family group began talking about what we would do if school didn't reopen in-person in the fall.

Just because you're an ostrich with its head in the sand doesn't mean the rest of us were or are. If you're scrambling right now, the end of October, because of your ineptitude and failure to anticipate what you needed to do to support DL for your kids then that's on you for not being a good parent and caretaker of your child/ren, special needs or otherwise.

Schools don't shut down for 1+ years. They didn't for past pandemics, wars or national disasters. When I was growing up my high school was destroyed by a tornado. We were back in classrooms a month later after they found alternative space for us and power was restored to most of the town. Shutting schools down indefinitely is unprecedented.

How do you prepare for this? Really, how? I've been trying get him into private therapy programs. But, half of them are still shut down (or virtual), and the other half are overbooked. Which absolutely makes sense, since I'm sure I'm not the only person seeking extra private therapy to make up for the loss of SPED programs.

So we've got child care taken care of. If for some reason my current provider fell through I have a list of alternatives. When it comes to child care, I'm confident that I could deal with nearly any foreseeable outcome. What I can't deal with, though, is a broad shutdown of educational services in the county for an extended- and indefinite- period of time.

Where did either of those two earlier posters go? The ones telling me I should have foreseen having an autistic child during a pandemic. I'd really like to know how I could have planned for this better. Apparently a lot of people could benefit from their insights, given that I'm told ABA therapists are being slammed with requests in Montgomery County and they're not able to accommodate the demand.

I'm back. I've had a busy day. Here is what you should have done: line up support. Why weren't you contacting MoCo in April and May about what was happening? Why weren't you calling your insurance about coverage for therapists in June and July and August? Why weren't you working with other parents of SPED kids for a pod? Why weren't you working with your employer to rearrange your schedule so that you could be more present during the day for your kid? Why didn't you work with the school to establish a set of core classes that your child will attend and classes that he may or may not depending on your day?

You seem to have copious amounts of time to spend here on DCUM complaining but I don't see you saying anything about what you have actually done. Cry me a river and I'll build a boat for me and my kid because I planned ahead while you didn't. As far as I can tell what you have done is...NOTHING. Get your act together and start being a better parent.

How would I have lined up ABA therapy before he had an autism diagnosis?

I've got a flexible job, but having a flexible schedule doesn't mean I can go a year without working during business hours, since my job involves public interaction. My wife is a provider at a hospital, so she has almost no flexibility in her schedule. And even separate from that, there's not enough hours in the day to do what you're describing, also do a full-time job, and also sleep.

And a "pod," in general, isn't going to work well for an autistic preschooler. He's already in a very small daycare, but he clearly needs special services because he hasn't picked up any words in the last 6 months (hence the visit to the developmental pediatrician, which itself took forever to get in).

But by all means, keep feeling smug. Hopefully karma's a bitch.

Huh. How did he get a diagnosis from March until now? I think you're just another idiot who knows nothing about it trying to stir the pot. You get what you deserve, baby.

The same way as everyone else: he saw a developmental pediatrician. You do realize doctors offices, and much of society in general, have been open for months now, right?

Did you really think doctors offices were still closed? They're open- it can just be hard to get in to a specialist these days.

[Anonymous]

San Fran has announced no public school for the rest of the year. and they have very low rates in SF.

https://twitter.com/AlecMacGillis/status/1318766264920268801

"Serious Q: what is the appropriate comparison for a city where kids in the public system don't attend physical schools while kids in the private system do? 1980 South Africa? 1820 America?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone considering moving to a red area: you're at least moving AFTER the election, right? It seems a bit unfair to move somewhere because of their policies and then try to change the philosophy and policies that you moved there for.

There are Democrat or mixed areas that are also opening schools. The politics don't matter.

They actually do, per a study out of Brown: https://www.edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai20-304.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:To everyone considering moving to a red area: you're at least moving AFTER the election, right? It seems a bit unfair to move somewhere because of their policies and then try to change the philosophy and policies that you moved there for.

There are Democrat or mixed areas that are also opening schools. The politics don't matter.

They actually do, per a study out of Brown: https://www.edworkingpapers.com/sites/default/files/ai20-304.pdf

NYC is liberal and open. Red states are not open because they value education, but because they refuse to acknowledge scientific realities.