Colleges that do NOT push individual pronouns

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

Narcissistic is a subjective opinion. Non Scientific is flat out false. Juse because like climate change deniers and flat earthers, and anti vaxxers you refuse to believe the science doesn't make it not real and legitimate. As a linguist, I can tell you the anti-grammatical stuff is BA> Language evolves to culture. If it didn't, we would still be saying thou and thy and and words that used to be pejorative. And so on,.

No one has yet to demonstrate how using a preferred pronoun hurts you any more than having to call Elizabeth, Liz or John Randall, JR.

[Anonymous]

^ That lost post will teach me to not type from my phone without my reading glasses. Damn. Sorry for the typos!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So homophobic is now a synonym for non-liberal. Got it.

No, I think the two have always gone hand in hand.

+1

If you vote for the GOP you vote against LGBTQ rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So homophobic is now a synonym for non-liberal. Got it.

No, I think the two have always gone hand in hand.

+1

If you vote for the GOP you vote against LGBTQ rights.

If you vote for Dems you are against women and men rights

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are two sexes. Male or female. XX or XY. You are either one or the other.

OP here. There are also intersex people, who have chromosomal abnormalities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friend who is a New York City banker took his son on
a tour of a top college campus that is in the south and
frequently discussed on this forum.

This campus was the son's number one choice. The guide
for the campus tour was a paid assistant at the Admissions Office.

A major part of the campus tour was this pronoun discussion and GLBT life on campus. (No one on the tour asked questions about the GLBT lifestyle on campus, nor seemed interested in it.) The paid assistant and also decision maker at the Admissions office lives the GLBT lifestyle. The paid assistant also
launched into a pretty extensive discussion about
slavery reparations and possible responsibility of the students for future slavery reparations (college not Georgetown).

Dad was surprised that a member of the GLBT lifestyle
was selected to represent the college and was surprised
that all of this alternative lifestyle stuff was shoved in their
face on a group tour particularly since members of the
GLBT lifestyle make up such a small percentage of the
population.

This college is considered to be a conservative
Southern college, top tier.

Son found the pronoun stuff, GLBT indoctrination as to
the lifestyle presence on campus etc to be extremely
bizarre.

Son took this college off of his list and will most likely be going to Notre Dame now.

I believe colleges and community colleges that do not
push the individual pronouns are the exception nowadays.

You probably need to go to one of the Mormon colleges,
Catholic and/or small Christian colleges. At some
of the Catholic colleges however some of the GLBT agenda
is pretty in your face.

I wonder if this was Davidson. I'm taking it off my list, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend who is a New York City banker took his son on
a tour of a top college campus that is in the south and
frequently discussed on this forum.

This campus was the son's number one choice. The guide
for the campus tour was a paid assistant at the Admissions Office.

A major part of the campus tour was this pronoun discussion and GLBT life on campus. (No one on the tour asked questions about the GLBT lifestyle on campus, nor seemed interested in it.) The paid assistant and also decision maker at the Admissions office lives the GLBT lifestyle. The paid assistant also
launched into a pretty extensive discussion about
slavery reparations and possible responsibility of the students for future slavery reparations (college not Georgetown).

Dad was surprised that a member of the GLBT lifestyle
was selected to represent the college and was surprised
that all of this alternative lifestyle stuff was shoved in their
face on a group tour particularly since members of the
GLBT lifestyle make up such a small percentage of the
population.

This college is considered to be a conservative
Southern college, top tier.

Son found the pronoun stuff, GLBT indoctrination as to
the lifestyle presence on campus etc to be extremely
bizarre.

Son took this college off of his list and will most likely be going to Notre Dame now.

I believe colleges and community colleges that do not
push the individual pronouns are the exception nowadays.

You probably need to go to one of the Mormon colleges,
Catholic and/or small Christian colleges. At some
of the Catholic colleges however some of the GLBT agenda
is pretty in your face.

How is it "in your face"; did anyone try to like, recruit the son to become gay?

How is a member of the LGBTQ community existing and holding a leadership position on campus a problem?

How is it "pushing" to ask ONCE if someone wants to share their pronouns? (I work on a college campus. This is how it goes. You fill out forms and are asked ONCE if you want to share. In person, you might be asked ONCE if you want to share. If you don't want to share, you don't, and that's the end of that.)

How is any of this "indoctrinating" anyone to anything?

I work on a college campus. When requests come around to share pronouns in some way, I simply choose not to. I have never been pushed or forced. Some people choose to put it in their email signatures; I do not. I have yet to be tarred and feathered.

Again, some more: it's like there's a field for you to put in a suffix, if you care to share. That's not INDOCTRINATING anyone to try to force them to put "junior" or "the III" after their name; the field is there if you need/want it, but you don't have to fill it in. Move on with your damn day. Really.

OP here. If I'm asked to use someone's pronouns, I will use them. I will never intentionally be cruel to another human being, ever. But, you have to realize that you liberals are being bullies on his issue. Could my child be hired as an RA without parroting the university line about pronouns? Could she just remain neutral on the topic? I don't think so. Could I be hired and tenured in academia without putting a "Safe Space" sticker on my door? Unlikely. By the way, any person is safe with me, just don't expect me to celebrate an alternative lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

Narcissistic is a subjective opinion. Non Scientific is flat out false. Juse because like climate change deniers and flat earthers, and anti vaxxers you refuse to believe the science doesn't make it not real and legitimate. As a linguist, I can tell you the anti-grammatical stuff is BA> Language evolves to culture. If it didn't, we would still be saying thou and thy and and words that used to be pejorative. And so on,.

No one has yet to demonstrate how using a preferred pronoun hurts you any more than having to call Elizabeth, Liz or John Randall, JR.

Are we supposed to teach our young children that gender is something we choose? That would be awfully confusing and contrary to my faith. I fear that we are also shaping the next generation to be voluntarily sterile.

[Anonymous]

It's not about choosing gender, it is about people who have gender identity issues or confusion having room to grow into their identity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

Narcissistic is a subjective opinion. Non Scientific is flat out false. Juse because like climate change deniers and flat earthers, and anti vaxxers you refuse to believe the science doesn't make it not real and legitimate. As a linguist, I can tell you the anti-grammatical stuff is BA> Language evolves to culture. If it didn't, we would still be saying thou and thy and and words that used to be pejorative. And so on,.

No one has yet to demonstrate how using a preferred pronoun hurts you any more than having to call Elizabeth, Liz or John Randall, JR.

Are we supposed to teach our young children that gender is something we choose? That would be awfully confusing and contrary to my faith. I fear that we are also shaping the next generation to be voluntarily sterile.

That is the environmentally responsible solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope the “they” thing passes. I am not going to engage in this overly sensitive pronoun stupidity.

It’s your right to be grandpa on the lawn yelling at people who pass by. Trans people being out isn’t going to pass. Because the world does move backwards. And in other news, gay people aren’t heading back in the closet because they make you uncomfortable. Deal with the 21st century or don’t. Your call.

But why does there have to be a portion of trans people who insist on being called they?

Why does it bother you? In what capacity is this infringing on your life in such as way that you care? I am being serious, not confrontational. People keep saying things like "I won't indulge their delusion," and "it's a mental illness," but that is not an answer.

Does pronoun usage on rare occasions so atively impact your life and hurt you that you need to spend more than a second thinking if it?

And FWIW< "they" in the trans community is a holdover. It was just an easy replacement."They" is mostly used in the non binary community now.

DP: it should bother all of us because it is narcissistic, anti-scientific and anti-grammatical.

The precise opposite of what higher learning should be.

Narcissistic is a subjective opinion. Non Scientific is flat out false. Juse because like climate change deniers and flat earthers, and anti vaxxers you refuse to believe the science doesn't make it not real and legitimate. As a linguist, I can tell you the anti-grammatical stuff is BA> Language evolves to culture. If it didn't, we would still be saying thou and thy and and words that used to be pejorative. And so on,.

No one has yet to demonstrate how using a preferred pronoun hurts you any more than having to call Elizabeth, Liz or John Randall, JR.

Are we supposed to teach our young children that gender is something we choose? That would be awfully confusing and contrary to my faith. I fear that we are also shaping the next generation to be voluntarily sterile.

That is the environmentally responsible solution.

I knew someone would say that. You care about the environment because you care about the future. Well, I care about the future, too. Haven't you noticed that all of the dystopian novels feature sterility? I care about the environment AND a culture of sterility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's not about choosing gender, it is about people who have gender identity issues or confusion having room to grow into their identity.

But, what if they choose to remain "they" forever? Thank you for admitting that they have issues or confusion.

[Anonymous]

It is not about disrespecting people who are transgender and identify as a different gender than they were born. It is about the other 99+% of people who are now expected to fall into the "he/him" or "she/her" way of identifying themselves when, hello! We already knew that about you.

It doesn't make any sense for people who identify as their actual gender to be compelled to play along to make those who don't identify that way feel included. We can teach inclusion and empathy towards transgender individuals without the false virtue signaling by those for whom the differences don't apply.