Hoax: Hate crime attackers: "This is MAGA country."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread reminds me of that “blue dress gold dress” photo. How so many people can read the same reporting and walk away with two totally different conclusions is bizarre.

It’s too early to tell either way. Wait for facts.

Hint: if you don’t want to be an a$$hole, believe the victim until you hear otherwise.

Questioning doesn't make you an a**hole. It means you simply have questions b/c you want to discover the truth. Sheeple don't question; they follow with blinders on.

There are two sides to every story. That's why we have defense lawyers and prosecutors. In theory, both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So those two men caught on tape could be completely innocent, too.

People are only questioning b/c there are quite a few holes in this story. It doesn't mean Smollet is lying, but it also doesn't mean he's sharing the ENTIRE truth.

[Anonymous]

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/1090747496702377984

Chicago police are looking for potential persons of interest spotted on surveillance cameras

Awaiting sketches of 2 guys in full face masks?

I guess you missed the part where they have surveillance footage. They will be releasing stills from the surveillance footage.

Yeah, well - either way, Subway stays open, at the latest, until 11 pm.

Is that your "if the glove don't fit" defense?

I don't think we know yet what or what didn't happen. This seems to be taken seriously enough by the Chicago police department. I honestly don't have any prediction how this turns out. And I am the OP of this thread.

If you're really the OP of this thread it seems that the thread title kind of made your (at least initial) prediction.

Just out of curiosity, at point did this go from Hate crime attackers: "This is MAGA country." to not having any prediction as to how it will turn out?

when more details came out. my initial post reflected the initial reporting i'd seen. like many stories, this one is evolving.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

So . . . if someone put a "not-a-noose" rope around your neck, supposedly dragged you and yelled homophobic slurs at you, you'd keep your phone, too.

ok . . .

Then you, too, would have something to hide. If the dude's life was at stake, the phone would mean very little to him. Furthermore, if he's an actor, he has money for another phone. And at this point, I would think MOST people would at least change their number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

I disagree. It is an important detail. It would show 1) whether he was on the phone with Moore and 2) if he was on the phone, exactly when the attack happened. It could help police narrow their search of video in the area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

So . . . if someone put a "not-a-noose" rope around your neck, supposedly dragged you and yelled homophobic slurs at you, you'd keep your phone, too.

ok . . .

Then you, too, would have something to hide. If the dude's life was at stake, the phone would mean very little to him. Furthermore, if he's an actor, he has money for another phone. And at this point, I would think MOST people would at least change their number.

Y'all are very trusting of the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

So . . . if someone put a "not-a-noose" rope around your neck, supposedly dragged you and yelled homophobic slurs at you, you'd keep your phone, too.

ok . . .

Then you, too, would have something to hide. If the dude's life was at stake, the phone would mean very little to him. Furthermore, if he's an actor, he has money for another phone. And at this point, I would think MOST people would at least change their number.

Y'all are very trusting of the police.

As a white woman, maybe I am. Is that the angle you're taking?

[Anonymous]

That’s what I thought. The police could use his phone to pinpoint the specific area he was attacked. They could use that info to find security cameras.

Why he won’t allow that is crazy. It only leads to speculation it’s a hoax.

If he truly was attacked he’d help the police in anyway possible.

He’s hiding something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

If you were attacked and police requested your phone you’d say no?

And predictable dcum: suddenly the POLICE ARE EVIL!!!

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://twitter.com/SopanDeb/status/1090747496702377984

Chicago police are looking for potential persons of interest spotted on surveillance cameras

Awaiting sketches of 2 guys in full face masks?

I guess you missed the part where they have surveillance footage. They will be releasing stills from the surveillance footage.

Yeah, well - either way, Subway stays open, at the latest, until 11 pm.

Is that your "if the glove don't fit" defense?

I don't think we know yet what or what didn't happen. This seems to be taken seriously enough by the Chicago police department. I honestly don't have any prediction how this turns out. And I am the OP of this thread.

If you're really the OP of this thread it seems that the thread title kind of made your (at least initial) prediction.

Just out of curiosity, at point did this go from Hate crime attackers: "This is MAGA country." to not having any prediction as to how it will turn out?

+1
This is clearly going to be another one of those threads (like the Covington HS kids thread) that is allowed to stand with a totally inaccurate title.

It’s the dcum way.

It's true that the real victim is not Jussie Smollett, but rather the MAGA posters here who believe they are being unfairly maligned. BTW, Chicago police this afternoon said that they had found pictures of persons of interest. Just as you think the OP should not have jumped to conclusions, you may not want to jump to any either.

How about the real victims are the vast majority of Americans that want the press to accurately report the news without an agenda and with actual facts to support their stories? Wouldn't that be nice for a change?????

Go tell that to the press. DCUM posters are not reporters. Have you seen this:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country."

https://abc7chicago.com/surveillance-video-shows-possible-person-of-interest-in-empire-actor-attack-police-say/5113489/

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

But they are refusing to turn over the cell phones

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

So . . . if someone put a "not-a-noose" rope around your neck, supposedly dragged you and yelled homophobic slurs at you, you'd keep your phone, too.

ok . . .

Then you, too, would have something to hide. If the dude's life was at stake, the phone would mean very little to him. Furthermore, if he's an actor, he has money for another phone. And at this point, I would think MOST people would at least change their number.

Y'all are very trusting of the police.

As a white woman, maybe I am. Is that the angle you're taking?

I am a white woman - and I posted above that my dh (an attorney) would not let me hand my phone over to the police in this situation. All they need is the time of the call and they could use a screen shot I text them for that. It isn't about buying a phone. It is about the huge amount of personal data on the phone that is irrelevant to this attack.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Based on the reported facts, the subject line of this thread is correct.

So, according to the article, he was on the phone during the attack:

Brandon Z. Moore, Smollett's music manager, said he was on the phone with the actor when he heard some of the attack, and heard the words "MAGA country." "I heard that clearly. I heard the scuffle and I heard the racial slur," Moore told Variety.

The subject line is accurate based on this bit of evidence . . . ok.

However, the entire situation is still odd, especially since he refuses to turn over his phone.

+1

You are physically attacked, assaulted, attacked for you race and sexuality, but won’t turn over your phone?

It just screams hoax.

The phone is not an important detail. I wouldn't give my phone to the police if I didn't have to.

If you were attacked and police requested your phone you’d say no?

And predictable dcum: suddenly the POLICE ARE EVIL!!!

This isn't sudden. It is a sentiment that has been growing for some time, now.
Yet, they would be the first to dial 9-1-1 if someone dare trespass on their property.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread reminds me of that “blue dress gold dress” photo. How so many people can read the same reporting and walk away with two totally different conclusions is bizarre.

It’s too early to tell either way. Wait for facts.

Hint: if you don’t want to be an a$$hole, believe the victim until you hear otherwise.

Questioning doesn't make you an a**hole. It means you simply have questions b/c you want to discover the truth. Sheeple don't question; they follow with blinders on.

There are two sides to every story. That's why we have defense lawyers and prosecutors. In theory, both sides are innocent until proven guilty. So those two men caught on tape could be completely innocent, too.

People are only questioning b/c there are quite a few holes in this story. It doesn't mean Smollet is lying, but it also doesn't mean he's sharing the ENTIRE truth.

Yeah, it does make you an a**hole. When you hear the story and you are like, he is clearly lying because Subway closes at 11!!!! Or he is clearly lying because police asked for surveillance video and no one has a video of the attack! Yeah, you are an a**hole.

Just own it.