Why so much UVA jealousy?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm puzzled. How would one be able to estimate freshmen class rankings in LCPS? One would not be able to calculate rank until the end of junior year after all those weighted AP grades are tallied anyway. Seems premature.

Kids in advanced/pre-AP classes tend to share their grades with each other...they know where they stand in comparison to their peers.

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Anonymous wrote:Note for example this statement from UVA (now 5th law school in the nation) that the UVA law class of 2020 has students from 154 institutions and many countries. The law school admissions teams seek out the geographical and institutional diversity.
https://www.law.virginia.edu/admissions/class-2020-profile

First, where is UVA Law ranked 5th? It is 9th in USNews. It is a great school, but I think generally it is in the tier behind Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, and Chicago, but that would make it 6th tops and there is competition there from Penn, Cal, Michigan, Duke, NYU.

They all cite diversity, but you usually see a concentration from top schools. For UVA, as a state school, it is a bit different in that you see 17 for UVA and 12 for W&M, but you would typically see lots of top schools like Yale heavily represented at other top law schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Note for example this statement from UVA (now 5th law school in the nation) that the UVA law class of 2020 has students from 154 institutions and many countries. The law school admissions teams seek out the geographical and institutional diversity.
https://www.law.virginia.edu/admissions/class-2020-profile

First, where is UVA Law ranked 5th? It is 9th in USNews. It is a great school, but I think generally it is in the tier behind Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, and Chicago, but that would make it 6th tops and there is competition there from Penn, Cal, Michigan, Duke, NYU.

They all cite diversity, but you usually see a concentration from top schools. For UVA, as a state school, it is a bit different in that you see 17 for UVA and 12 for W&M, but you would typically see lots of top schools like Yale heavily represented at other top law schools.

4th, 5th, 6th depending on ranking service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_School_of_Law

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1st, 1st, 2nd, 5th, 6th, Princeton 2018 Review depending on subcategory. No. 5th most difficult to get into in the nation. https://www.princetonreview.com/law/university-virginia--school-law-1035851?ceid=best-law

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Anonymous wrote:Note for example this statement from UVA (now 5th law school in the nation) that the UVA law class of 2020 has students from 154 institutions and many countries. The law school admissions teams seek out the geographical and institutional diversity.
https://www.law.virginia.edu/admissions/class-2020-profile

First, where is UVA Law ranked 5th? It is 9th in USNews. It is a great school, but I think generally it is in the tier behind Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, and Chicago, but that would make it 6th tops and there is competition there from Penn, Cal, Michigan, Duke, NYU.

They all cite diversity, but you usually see a concentration from top schools. For UVA, as a state school, it is a bit different in that you see 17 for UVA and 12 for W&M, but you would typically see lots of top schools like Yale heavily represented at other top law schools.

4th, 5th, 6th depending on ranking service. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Virginia_School_of_Law

But 9th in USNews, you are only including the most favorable ("cherry picking"). Again, I am not disputing it is a great law school.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD and I just toured UVA two weeks ago. We used to live in Arlington, and my DH is from VA. We were in DC and drove down there. I'll tell you who is jealous of Virginians, and that is we Californians. UVA lets in about 75% Virginians. The in-state tuition is a bargain. Meanwhile, out of state tuition is in the 45K range, and your kid cannot establish VA residency unless a parent lives there.

In CA, the University of California system (UCs, such as UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Berkeley etc) lets in some ridiculously low % of Californians, because they are looking for out-of-state or out-of-country students to subsidize the California kids. They also have a deal with the CA public HSs to let in their top 10% of kids. But these publics don't hold a candle to what I've seen with the Arlington HS system. So many families go private. Then the private kids are SOL with respect to getting into their state schools bc those few spots are taken by public school kids.

So...I don't know why any Virginian would scoff at the UVA deal. Great school, great price.

Why are we leaving out the W&M deal?

UVA is 56% female, 44% male. JMU is 60% female, 40% male. Why single out W&M? Most schools other than top (Ivy, Stanford) and tech-heavy schools have a lot more women these days. They simply have better qualifications as applicants.

Two very different schools. Kids st both, years ago. Not too long ago, they were nearly at parity in terms of academic quality of undergrads, but UVA just became the more popular and somewhat stronger school. W&M is a great school but it has limited appeal now, given its size and reputation for un-fun. I honestly think that it might become an all-women’s state college soon. Its number of applications stays flat, it’s yield rate is embarrassingly low, and I think it has given up in appealing to men.

There will soon no longer be all-women's or all men's schools, since academia has determined that gender doesn't exist. In fact, most schools are converting their single sex dorms to coed.

Well, maybe de facto. They brought in as president an academic from Smith and the marketing just seems very women-focused. Maybe that’s just their core constituency.

That's cute. So maybe biological women will soon become known as "de facto" women as opposed to the trans-women.

Nope. What I think will happen is that the ratio will go out of whack. Go tilt at other windmills.

Ratios are already "out of whack" at most colleges. Overall in the U.S. at universities it is 44% male and 56% female. Virginia schools are no exception with VMI and VT being the outliers on the male side.

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Anonymous wrote:My DD and I just toured UVA two weeks ago. We used to live in Arlington, and my DH is from VA. We were in DC and drove down there. I'll tell you who is jealous of Virginians, and that is we Californians. UVA lets in about 75% Virginians. The in-state tuition is a bargain. Meanwhile, out of state tuition is in the 45K range, and your kid cannot establish VA residency unless a parent lives there.

In CA, the University of California system (UCs, such as UCLA, UC San Diego, UC Berkeley etc) lets in some ridiculously low % of Californians, because they are looking for out-of-state or out-of-country students to subsidize the California kids. They also have a deal with the CA public HSs to let in their top 10% of kids. But these publics don't hold a candle to what I've seen with the Arlington HS system. So many families go private. Then the private kids are SOL with respect to getting into their state schools bc those few spots are taken by public school kids.

So...I don't know why any Virginian would scoff at the UVA deal. Great school, great price.

Why are we leaving out the W&M deal?

UVA is 56% female, 44% male. JMU is 60% female, 40% male. Why single out W&M? Most schools other than top (Ivy, Stanford) and tech-heavy schools have a lot more women these days. They simply have better qualifications as applicants.

Two very different schools. Kids st both, years ago. Not too long ago, they were nearly at parity in terms of academic quality of undergrads, but UVA just became the more popular and somewhat stronger school. W&M is a great school but it has limited appeal now, given its size and reputation for un-fun. I honestly think that it might become an all-women’s state college soon. Its number of applications stays flat, it’s yield rate is embarrassingly low, and I think it has given up in appealing to men.

There will soon no longer be all-women's or all men's schools, since academia has determined that gender doesn't exist. In fact, most schools are converting their single sex dorms to coed.

Well, maybe de facto. They brought in as president an academic from Smith and the marketing just seems very women-focused. Maybe that’s just their core constituency.

That's cute. So maybe biological women will soon become known as "de facto" women as opposed to the trans-women.

Nope. What I think will happen is that the ratio will go out of whack. Go tilt at other windmills.

Ratios are already "out of whack" at most colleges. Overall in the U.S. at universities it is 44% male and 56% female. Virginia schools are no exception with VMI and VT being the outliers on the male side.

UVA is 56% female, 44% male. JMU is 60% female, 40% male. Why single out W&M? Most schools other than top (Ivy, Stanford) and tech-heavy schools have a lot more women these days. They simply have better qualifications as applicants.

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Who are the women going to marry

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the women going to marry

We are headed for 3+ female college graduates for every 2 male college graduates. I for one welcome our new college-educated female overlords. . .

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the women going to marry

Who cares? Men are superfluous. We don't even need them to have babies anymore.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the women going to marry

Who cares? Men are superfluous. We don't even need them to have babies anymore.

It's much more satisfying to raise your child with their biological father than with someone who doesn't have the same innate attachment.

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Wow, some major assumptions about women being made here.

Also, you all are aware that the age of marriage is going up and people aren't just marrying their college boyfriend/girlfriend.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm puzzled. How would one be able to estimate freshmen class rankings in LCPS? One would not be able to calculate rank until the end of junior year after all those weighted AP grades are tallied anyway. Seems premature.

Kids in advanced/pre-AP classes tend to share their grades with each other...they know where they stand in comparison to their peers.

And they never, ever tell people they got a different grade than the one they did. HA.

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Anonymous wrote:Who are the women going to marry

Who cares? Men are superfluous. We don't even need them to have babies anymore.

It's much more satisfying to raise your child with their biological father than with someone who doesn't have the same innate attachment.

You don't need them to get pregnant or to raise a child.

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OP nobody is jealous of UVA, it's just these annoying parents who went to some clown college (or more likely no college at all) that treat acceptance to UVA as though DC got into Stanford. We get it...UVA is a good, affordable public uni but that's about it.

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Anonymous wrote:OP nobody is jealous of UVA, it's just these annoying parents who went to some clown college (or more likely no college at all) that treat acceptance to UVA as though DC got into Stanford. We get it...UVA is a good, affordable public uni but that's about it.

Exactly.