Marriage without sex

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Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

They will argue until they are blue in the face but as time goes on things turn the mans advantage. Men have a wider range in dating opportunities as time goes on. Women will argue all day about it but they know its true, they cant accept they are now on the dollar menu of dating and relationships, for reason that are very clear in reading this thread.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 56 years old. My wife gets how, if I have to go without I become one ornery bastard

Wow what a rut she is in. She knows she has to do the duty sex to keep her life style, but no doubt hopes to be a young widow.

Well, she’ll be waiting a long time, with the longevity in my genes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re wife isn’t having sex with you she feels no connection to you and most of all has no respect for you. In her eyes you’re not worthy to her. Woman have an innate ability to classify males as ones they want to sleep with and others they keep around as friends. The friends don’t stand a chance and are usually just obiters that hover around and hope they can get some action. They never do.

If you’re a husband who isn’t having sex you’re classified as one of them. Just s little above or below her brothers. She loves you probably, she just doesn’t view you as mating material to put it simply. It’s rare that a woman loses her desire for sex all together, it’s just sexual with you. You don’t think for one second given the opportunity to sleep with an attractive fit man and not get caught is an option she wouldn’t do it? Absolutely she would. And if she’s not having sex with you there’s a danger of that happening. Desire isn’t negotiable - you can’t talk your way into her getting that for you.

Do what others have said, work on and improve yourself. Get in shape, work out, find a social circle to hang out with and make time for yourself and going out. Start doing activities where the likelihood of meeting attractive women increased. Take a salsa class, women love a man who can dance. Chat women upnand flirt. Change your wardrobe. Get clothes that fit well and show off your physical strengths. Have big arms? Wear polo shorts that enhance your arms. If your slimmer, buy slim fit or modern fit shirts. Get the proper pants size so they’re not too big or long. Drop the white sneakers and get a couple of pairs of shoes that are stylish and comfortable. Black and brown. Match belt and shoes. Take pride in your appearance and dress nice, not talking suits every day, but your casual wear. How do you feel when you meet a slob? You don’t want to judge but we do, and women in particular do.

That’s my advice, at this point if she gets mad at you for going out with friends, taking time for yourself what is she going to do? Get mad and withdraw sex? Well that’s no longer a bargaining chip so do what you want. If you initiate - and I hope you at least try - it won’t turn out successfully all the time. Say ok, then go off and do something you need to do. I try to initiate in the morning, wife says no I’m out to the gym. I was probably going to go anyways but hey, now I get there earlier. Something like that.

So basically become gay?

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Anonymous wrote:If you’re wife isn’t having sex with you she feels no connection to you and most of all has no respect for you. In her eyes you’re not worthy to her. Woman have an innate ability to classify males as ones they want to sleep with and others they keep around as friends. The friends don’t stand a chance and are usually just obiters that hover around and hope they can get some action. They never do.

If you’re a husband who isn’t having sex you’re classified as one of them. Just s little above or below her brothers. She loves you probably, she just doesn’t view you as mating material to put it simply. It’s rare that a woman loses her desire for sex all together, it’s just sexual with you. You don’t think for one second given the opportunity to sleep with an attractive fit man and not get caught is an option she wouldn’t do it? Absolutely she would. And if she’s not having sex with you there’s a danger of that happening. Desire isn’t negotiable - you can’t talk your way into her getting that for you.

Do what others have said, work on and improve yourself. Get in shape, work out, find a social circle to hang out with and make time for yourself and going out. Start doing activities where the likelihood of meeting attractive women increased. Take a salsa class, women love a man who can dance. Chat women upnand flirt. Change your wardrobe. Get clothes that fit well and show off your physical strengths. Have big arms? Wear polo shorts that enhance your arms. If your slimmer, buy slim fit or modern fit shirts. Get the proper pants size so they’re not too big or long. Drop the white sneakers and get a couple of pairs of shoes that are stylish and comfortable. Black and brown. Match belt and shoes. Take pride in your appearance and dress nice, not talking suits every day, but your casual wear. How do you feel when you meet a slob? You don’t want to judge but we do, and women in particular do.

That’s my advice, at this point if she gets mad at you for going out with friends, taking time for yourself what is she going to do? Get mad and withdraw sex? Well that’s no longer a bargaining chip so do what you want. If you initiate - and I hope you at least try - it won’t turn out successfully all the time. Say ok, then go off and do something you need to do. I try to initiate in the morning, wife says no I’m out to the gym. I was probably going to go anyways but hey, now I get there earlier. Something like that.

So basically become gay?

So if its not kissing her a55 you must be gay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

I'm shocked you're divorced. Pig.

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Whenever a redpiller/MRA type shows up, I like to imagine them as White Goodman from "Dodgeball."

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she's cheating. I haven't had sex in over a year, neither of us are interested. Still enjoy life together though, and neither one of us is looking to destroy our marriage by cheating.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

Good for you. Congratulations dude!

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I am so shocked to read that so many married people in DMV do not have sex. Maybe that's why people seem so unhappy and rude on this forum.

Make love not war, people!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

I disagree. It's 11pm and my over 45 wife just walked by and invited me to bed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

They will argue until they are blue in the face but as time goes on things turn the mans advantage. Men have a wider range in dating opportunities as time goes on. Women will argue all day about it but they know its true, they cant accept they are now on the dollar menu of dating and relationships, for reason that are very clear in reading this thread.

What a riot. I am 52, married to a sexually worthless 55 year old, and having an affair with a 58 year old. Men from ages 45 to 60 hit on me fairly often.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

They will argue until they are blue in the face but as time goes on things turn the mans advantage. Men have a wider range in dating opportunities as time goes on. Women will argue all day about it but they know its true, they cant accept they are now on the dollar menu of dating and relationships, for reason that are very clear in reading this thread.

What a riot. I am 52, married to a sexually worthless 55 year old, and having an affair with a 58 year old. Men from ages 45 to 60 hit on me fairly often.

Why is what these people wrote above a "riot" - just because you have a lame husband and cheat? It's true that older women are not as high in demand. (New poster on this particular response.)

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Anonymous wrote:Women are worthless after 45, from a traditional male perspective. I divorced mien at 48 (I was 46) and my life turned back into technicolor. Currently living with a 32 year old and couldn't be happier.

They will argue until they are blue in the face but as time goes on things turn the mans advantage. Men have a wider range in dating opportunities as time goes on. Women will argue all day about it but they know its true, they cant accept they are now on the dollar menu of dating and relationships, for reason that are very clear in reading this thread.

What a riot. I am 52, married to a sexually worthless 55 year old, and having an affair with a 58 year old. Men from ages 45 to 60 hit on me fairly often.

Why is what these people wrote above a "riot" - just because you have a lame husband and cheat? It's true that older women are not as high in demand. (New poster on this particular response.)

52 year old women as desirable. Thanks for the laugh. Your husband is probably banging your daughter's friends. Cheers.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think she's cheating. I haven't had sex in over a year, neither of us are interested. Still enjoy life together though, and neither one of us is looking to destroy our marriage by cheating.

Your marriage is destroyed. You are roommates.

Why is everyone so melodramatic? OP, do some fun, new things with your wife. Sometimes people just get bored.

no it does not matter if you do the laundry, or take care of the kids, or take her out to dinner, or do something different. she doesnt care about the marriage. You are not that important to her. been there, get out now. there are other women that will actively take part in a marriage.

It really is that simple, she doesn't care about the marriage OR has zero respect for you. Therapy wont work, you cant "therapy" someone into respect or caring. The only thing that may is if it becomes apparent to her that he is willing to leave or if she sense another woman is a threat because she may be interested in him.

Respect and caring are not the problem. She probably actually does respect and care for him. She doesn't desire him, however. (She would say, as the classic phrase goes, "I love you but I'm not in love with you".) You can't therapy her into desiring you, either, so don't waste your time with that.

The only solution is for him to become much more attractive. Lift, dress better, re-learn how to flirt with women (and practice this on wife). She'll think he has the option to leave her for another woman; this will either cause her desire for him to increase, in which case deadbedroom problem solved, or it won't, and he can pull the plug on her and get another woman, in which case deadbedroom problem also solved.

Agree 100% with all you wrote except what is in bold. No way she respects him, a wife is not going dead bedroom if they respect their spouse. Not going to happen. It is a clear indicator of: I don't think you have the balls to leave or no one else would want you. 10 to 1 odds she would say men need sex or is very important to them.

I have to say I agree with this. I have some sex drive, not nearly what I did 15 years ago or before kids. BUT, I respect my husband and I respect our marriage, and sex is a part of that. I'm not worried about anyone cheating etc - I'm just giving him what he signed up for. I usually enjoy it once it gets going. We never go long enough for me to feel desperate to initiate, but if there was a lull I'd sure as hell be sure it was ended. (DH would probably be surprised to see me write this, HA!)

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Anonymous wrote:I am 56 years old. My wife gets how, if I have to go without I become one ornery bastard

Wow what a rut she is in. She knows she has to do the duty sex to keep her life style, but no doubt hopes to be a young widow.

You think she is just entitled to her lifestyle? That when you marry it's his job to ensure your lifestyle to keep you happy and her job, well whatever she feels like? Maybe you entitled slave owner viewpoint is the root of most marriage problems.

Do you think you're entitled to sex whenever you want it just because you are married. It's her job to keep you happy...just because you get a itch. Maybe YOUR entitled indentured servant viewpoint is the root of most marital problems.