Missing Muslim teen found dead in Fairfax County - suspect arrested

[Anonymous]

The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

[Anonymous]

And in case I'm unclear, I am being sarcastic vis a vis "fine public schools". Some are, but also totally unequipped or funded to handle this. Many of these kids drop right out and go straight into the arms of the gangs.

[Anonymous]

I feel like this is a very "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" - ie, people hating on "illegals" as criminals are often the same people who harm on Muslims being terrorists. But in this case, it's convenient to show support for this Muslim family/community, but only in the name of disdain for "illegals."

[Anonymous]

*harp, not "harm"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so scary that there are random thugs out there who will snap and kill someone over something so dumb.

I agree. This was scary.

There was a brutal assault and murder of a girl at Accotink Lake in the Springfield area that absolutely was gang related although I don't know if it was MS13 or not. Bottom line is there are thugs out there targeting kids. That is frightening.

The gangbangers lived in maryland and chose springfield to commit their crime. Populated urban areas in reston, springfield, great falls, herndon etc are where they like to hang out with their buddies and bug people or pickup women. I remember when I was a teen in the 90s an asian girl got kidnapped or went away with some gangbangers for days and reported as missing. Girls need to stay away from crowded cars with men or just dont look or bother them. I avert my gaze everytime.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so scary that there are random thugs out there who will snap and kill someone over something so dumb.

I agree. This was scary.

There was a brutal assault and murder of a girl at Accotink Lake in the Springfield area that absolutely was gang related although I don't know if it was MS13 or not. Bottom line is there are thugs out there targeting kids. That is frightening.

The gangbangers lived in maryland and chose springfield to commit their crime. Populated urban areas in reston, springfield, great falls, herndon etc are where they like to hang out with their buddies and bug people or pickup women. I remember when I was a teen in the 90s an asian girl got kidnapped or went away with some gangbangers for days and reported as missing. Girls need to stay away from crowded cars with men or just dont look or bother them. I avert my gaze everytime.

?????

Nice, suburban neighborhoods back to that lake. Are you calling downtown Springfield where Springfield plaza, the mall and some apartment buildings are "urban" (city)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so scary that there are random thugs out there who will snap and kill someone over something so dumb.

I agree. This was scary.

There was a brutal assault and murder of a girl at Accotink Lake in the Springfield area that absolutely was gang related although I don't know if it was MS13 or not. Bottom line is there are thugs out there targeting kids. That is frightening.

The gangbangers lived in maryland and chose springfield to commit their crime. Populated urban areas in reston, springfield, great falls, herndon etc are where they like to hang out with their buddies and bug people or pickup women. I remember when I was a teen in the 90s an asian girl got kidnapped or went away with some gangbangers for days and reported as missing. Girls need to stay away from crowded cars with men or just dont look or bother them. I avert my gaze everytime.

?????

Wondering what part of Great Falls is frequented by gangbangers? (Or is "urban"?)

Nice, suburban neighborhoods back to that lake. Are you calling downtown Springfield where Springfield plaza, the mall and some apartment buildings are "urban" (city)?

[Anonymous]

Urban Great Falls = the plaza with Starbucks near the library?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

I have no idea if he's in school and it's rather beside the point, but legally, if you are a special needs student (and being ELL qualifies you as such) you are entitled to attend public school until 23.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

Excellent, balanced perspective and I agree RE: the need for effective integration programs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

I have no idea if he's in school and it's rather beside the point, but legally, if you are a special needs student (and being ELL qualifies you as such) you are entitled to attend public school until 23.

So you are saying that the this 22 year old man (undocumented, on ICE list) could have been a HS student?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

He would be entitled to stay in high school up to age 23 if he has a "qualifying disability."

ESL or "English as a second language" is qualified as a "disability" entitling him to stay in high school/free lunch/busing up to age 23.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

I have no idea if he's in school and it's rather beside the point, but legally, if you are a special needs student (and being ELL qualifies you as such) you are entitled to attend public school until 23.

So you are saying that the this 22 year old man (undocumented, on ICE list) could have been a HS student?

Potentially, yes. Students with disabilities can remain in the school system until 23. This ranges from down syndrome to truly speaking no English. I have no idea if he was but yes it's possible.

-teacher

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The contributions of young, illegal central American immigrants to ultraviolent crime and misdemeanor in our area cannot be denied. I cannot say I'm shocked. Twenty years ago I worked with the middle wave of Salvadoran and central American children brought over by parents fleeing the civil war. There is no intake process and while their parents work day and night they are left to the Latin kings 18th street gang Ms 13 and of course our fine public schools to be raised. Honestly, if we are going to offer sanctuary we should also offer the programming to calibrate these children to our civic norms and fight gang influence. Otherwise, they should go home and we should offer aid to these central American countries to battle gang violence and develop their own civil societies. Simply accepting them and thinking they'll integrate just because is stupid. The same goes for many poor, undereducated (my teen students were functionally illiterate) struggling populations coming to the US from places of strife.

The suspect is a 22 year old man. I assume that he is not a HS student but these days you never know.

An older person like that should be in adult education assuming he is going to school at all.

I have no idea if he's in school and it's rather beside the point, but legally, if you are a special needs student (and being ELL qualifies you as such) you are entitled to attend public school until 23.

So you are saying that the this 22 year old man (undocumented, on ICE list) could have been a HS student?

Potentially, yes. Students with disabilities can remain in the school system until 23. This ranges from down syndrome to truly speaking no English. I have no idea if he was but yes it's possible.

-teacher

Do schools do any sort of criminal background check on adult students? Do they do any sort of check to see if they are documented?