PARCC test results - slight increase in scores overall, white students see drop, Wilson plunges

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Anonymous wrote:I don't usually talk about white privilege, being as I am really white, aware that it's carried me through many things, and that I rely upon it for many more, but...

There's a problem here, with how we are talking about this. And it is depressing the hell out of me. I would like to propose that we change the dialogue.

Here we have Banneker, on one hand, where high school students know they CANT fail a test, even one that doesn't matter. On the other hand, we have Wilson, where bad test scores just mean that "those poor seniors have enough to do!" Or, as per the Washington Post, the bad test scores are some kind of protest act.

And then, far away on an island somewhere we have the kids attending eastern, Dunbar et all, who everyone has just written off because of THEIR bad test scores.

Good point. Agree.

I think the alleged behavior of the Wilson students the principal spoke of is pretty appalling.

Whose terrible idea was it to schedule PARCC for the week before APs? Of course they wanted to hurry through the meaningless test and go back to study for the tests that matter.

Unlike the kids at SWW and Banneker who didn't care about their APs? Doesn't make sense.

+1

[Anonymous]

The behavior is appalling, of course it is; but I am more appalled by the collective us that then gives the Wilson students a pass while dismissing or worse shaming the students at the other dcps high schools.

Look, the tests would be useful if they were used as a metric to give students individualized assessments, ways to show areas that need work, etc. But that isn't how they are used.

In new York, I have several friends who, after receiving less than a good score for their children's tests, joined the opt out movement. Many of these same people refuse to consider sending their darlings to schools with low test scores. The way we are using these tests is wrong. It needs to change. There must be better ways to assess a school's proficiency.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When I attended B-CC, there were I believe 3 or 4 test we had to pass in order to graduate. Does MoCo still have this requirement? If so, should DC implement this as well? I'm guessing no as there will be plenty of students who wouldn't grauate.

I'm a parent of a Wilson student who find the scores appalling.

State of Maryland intends to require students to pass PARCC for graduation replacing their old state assessments. Starts for class of 2018, I think.

Thanks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The behavior is appalling, of course it is; but I am more appalled by the collective us that then gives the Wilson students a pass while dismissing or worse shaming the students at the other dcps high schools.

Look, the tests would be useful if they were used as a metric to give students individualized assessments, ways to show areas that need work, etc. But that isn't how they are used.

In new York, I have several friends who, after receiving less than a good score for their children's tests, joined the opt out movement. Many of these same people refuse to consider sending their darlings to schools with low test scores. The way we are using these tests is wrong. It needs to change. There must be better ways to assess a school's proficiency.

I"m with you PP (i'm the PP who said it the students behavior was appalling). But in no way do I give those kids a pass -- of course I'm not a Wilson parent (my kids go to BASIS, we're not IB for Wilson).

If DCPS gave the tests just once in high school during 10th grade then they could be used to see who is - and isn't on track and there would be less interference with AP exams.

But turning in a blank test is much worse than staying home and opting out completely and really does epitomize white privilege. These kids - and their parents - think these tests are fine for poor kids but not for themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The behavior is appalling, of course it is; but I am more appalled by the collective us that then gives the Wilson students a pass while dismissing or worse shaming the students at the other dcps high schools.

Look, the tests would be useful if they were used as a metric to give students individualized assessments, ways to show areas that need work, etc. But that isn't how they are used.

In new York, I have several friends who, after receiving less than a good score for their children's tests, joined the opt out movement. Many of these same people refuse to consider sending their darlings to schools with low test scores. The way we are using these tests is wrong. It needs to change. There must be better ways to assess a school's proficiency.

Whose behavior are you talking about? Wilson's new principal, so proud as she was in running a whole new school while completing some random PhD on the side?

Yup, someone got distracted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The behavior is appalling, of course it is; but I am more appalled by the collective us that then gives the Wilson students a pass while dismissing or worse shaming the students at the other dcps high schools.

Look, the tests would be useful if they were used as a metric to give students individualized assessments, ways to show areas that need work, etc. But that isn't how they are used.

In new York, I have several friends who, after receiving less than a good score for their children's tests, joined the opt out movement. Many of these same people refuse to consider sending their darlings to schools with low test scores. The way we are using these tests is wrong. It needs to change. There must be better ways to assess a school's proficiency.

Whose behavior are you talking about? Wilson's new principal, so proud as she was in running a whole new school while completing some random PhD on the side?

Yup, someone got distracted.

The students who went to take the test and left after 5 minutes of 'work' as described by the principal in the W Post story. Supposedly bc the kids were 'so focused' on the AP exams (according to the principal and their moms who have posted here today).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The behavior is appalling, of course it is; but I am more appalled by the collective us that then gives the Wilson students a pass while dismissing or worse shaming the students at the other dcps high schools.

Look, the tests would be useful if they were used as a metric to give students individualized assessments, ways to show areas that need work, etc. But that isn't how they are used.

In new York, I have several friends who, after receiving less than a good score for their children's tests, joined the opt out movement. Many of these same people refuse to consider sending their darlings to schools with low test scores. The way we are using these tests is wrong. It needs to change. There must be better ways to assess a school's proficiency.

Whose behavior are you talking about? Wilson's new principal, so proud as she was in running a whole new school while completing some random PhD on the side?

Yup, someone got distracted.

The students who went to take the test and left after 5 minutes of 'work' as described by the principal in the W Post story. Supposedly bc the kids were 'so focused' on the AP exams (according to the principal and their moms who have posted here today).

Either the principal doesn't care either, or she's a pretty bad principal, would you say?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.

Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.

I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!

+1000

Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.

Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.

Much appreciated.

Ignorant and racist???! I am an AA parent that intends to send my AA child to Banneker. Every year Banneker kills testing and people on DCUM talk about how great they are doing but every year they opt out of even applying to Banneker. Then some on DCUM say it's because they counsel or kick out students that don't do XYZ. My thing is most of these high performing white kids would have no problem maintaining the standards at Bannker. Seriously. Why don't more white families give Banneker a shot? My belief is that it has to do with deep down racial feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't usually talk about white privilege, being as I am really white, aware that it's carried me through many things, and that I rely upon it for many more, but...

There's a problem here, with how we are talking about this. And it is depressing the hell out of me. I would like to propose that we change the dialogue.

Here we have Banneker, on one hand, where high school students know they CANT fail a test, even one that doesn't matter. On the other hand, we have Wilson, where bad test scores just mean that "those poor seniors have enough to do!" Or, as per the Washington Post, the bad test scores are some kind of protest act.

And then, far away on an island somewhere we have the kids attending eastern, Dunbar et all, who everyone has just written off because of THEIR bad test scores.

Agreed. Depressing to see the excuses for Wilson and putting down Banneker from both sides of the mouth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.

Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.

I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!

+1000

Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.

Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.

Much appreciated.

Ignorant and racist???! I am an AA parent that intends to send my AA child to Banneker. Every year Banneker kills testing and people on DCUM talk about how great they are doing but every year they opt out of even applying to Banneker. Then some on DCUM say it's because they counsel or kick out students that don't do XYZ. My thing is most of these high performing white kids would have no problem maintaining the standards at Bannker. Seriously. Why don't more white families give Banneker a shot? My belief is that it has to do with deep down racial feelings.

Well, you are entitled to your feelings, and I am entitled to tell you that those feelings sound racist and add little value to the conversation we are having here.

Signed,,

Another minority, who looked seriously into B but was shocked by the huge attrition rate

[Anonymous]

I'm a white parent. Most will tell you they worry about Banneker's historic SAT scores.

That wasn't my concern or my kid's. But there were fewer AP options at B as at other schools available to our family (Wilson wasn't an option for us) and we were not interested in the IB program.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.

Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.

I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!

+1000

Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.

Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.

Much appreciated.

Ignorant and racist???! I am an AA parent that intends to send my AA child to Banneker. Every year Banneker kills testing and people on DCUM talk about how great they are doing but every year they opt out of even applying to Banneker. Then some on DCUM say it's because they counsel or kick out students that don't do XYZ. My thing is most of these high performing white kids would have no problem maintaining the standards at Bannker. Seriously. Why don't more white families give Banneker a shot? My belief is that it has to do with deep down racial feelings.

Well, you are entitled to your feelings, and I am entitled to tell you that those feelings sound racist and add little value to the conversation we are having here.

Signed,,

Another minority, who looked seriously into B but was shocked by the huge attrition rate

Another minority other than AA does not give you any weight in this particular topic so signing as one brings very little to conversation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Banneker's ELA score is great. Math almost as good.

Kudos for them for scoring highest in city.

I always knew Banneker deserved more love here!

+1000

Same here. Year after year we say it but the white population still lingers under 1%. Just goes to show how deep racist lines go.

Go take your ignorant and racist BS elsewhere.

Much appreciated.

Ignorant and racist???! I am an AA parent that intends to send my AA child to Banneker. Every year Banneker kills testing and people on DCUM talk about how great they are doing but every year they opt out of even applying to Banneker. Then some on DCUM say it's because they counsel or kick out students that don't do XYZ. My thing is most of these high performing white kids would have no problem maintaining the standards at Bannker. Seriously. Why don't more white families give Banneker a shot? My belief is that it has to do with deep down racial feelings.

Well, you are entitled to your feelings, and I am entitled to tell you that those feelings sound racist and add little value to the conversation we are having here.

Signed,,

Another minority, who looked seriously into B but was shocked by the huge attrition rate

Another minority other than AA does not give you any weight in this particular topic so signing as one brings very little to conversation

Says who, the minority certification police?

Sorry, didn't realize the school was only for kids with dark skin.

[Anonymous]

While you guys are working out your oppression matrix, a bunch of folks are just making more excuses for the Wilson kids. Pg county! Ap tests! Bad principal!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:While you guys are working out your oppression matrix, a bunch of folks are just making more excuses for the Wilson kids. Pg county! Ap tests! Bad principal!

Can you please sum it up for us...what happened over there?