SCOTUS upholds college Affirmative Action

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the person who wrote this but Becky refers to the Beyoncé song reference of Becky with the Good Hair. This is presumably refers to white women. Abigail Fisher is trending on twitter as Becky with the Bad Grades.


seriously? the idiot pp was referring to some trash singer?
Anonymous
Affirmative Action = Food Stamp of Education

- some need it
- some get it and want more
- some don't, and don't want it
- most of who get it, can't get out of poverty anyway
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Affirmative Action = Food Stamp of Education

- some need it
- some get it and want more
- some don't, and don't want it
- most of who get it, can't get out of poverty anyway


The troglodyte who wrote this nonsense is trying way to hard to be clever. Give it up because you do not possess the intelligence nor the talent to pull it off.
Anonymous
It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'm not the person who wrote this but Becky refers to the Beyoncé song reference of Becky with the Good Hair. This is presumably refers to white women. Abigail Fisher is trending on twitter as Becky with the Bad Grades.


OMG, that's hilarious.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


You should watch your language. Black people seem to think being the loudest, most obnoxious and using profanity leads to winning arguments but that is not so. Read carefully, holistic admissions means considering more than grades/scores including other subjective factors, recommendation letters, essays, activities, leadership potential, SES, overcoming hardships etc.

You should try to improve your reading comprehension skill if you are confused about the point in the previous posting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


You plebeians should really learn to read. Asian Americans are not complaining about 1%-3% black students taking seats away from Asian Americans. That figure shows the extremely small % of blacks admitted even with subjective holistic admission process and the mandate to increase black student admissions if race is not considered. Do you understand now or is it still confusing or do you want to resort to profanity?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom.


For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom.


For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place.


I disagree. Smart students attend school than can either afford or receive substantial financial assistance. Berkeley and UCLC doesn't offer much, if any, aid to out of state students. Those schools are relatively inexpensive for in-state students. California has just under 6% in Black residents. Why would a kid who could receive substantial assistance from Harvard, Stanford, Bates, Williams, etc pay out-of-state tuition to attend UCLA? Such a choice would be beyond stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom.


For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place.


NP-No, you should use state demographics to compare state school enrollment. State schools give state residents preference in admissions; Cal and UCLA are no exception. The prior PP is correct, California's two flagship universities' Black population is aligned with the state's Black population.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


Oh please, yes. Even if we reached the point that the makeup of the student body at one of these colleges was 100% Asian, there would still be some on here complaining that they had higher scores and should have gotten in. Holistic is holistic and can't be reduced to just numbers (even when those numbers include ECs with the appropriate number of awards and level of leadership).

And look at what has happened to TJ. As the make-up of the student body has changed, the school has become more of a stress factory, causing many students not to want to apply and some teachers to leave. Colleges each have their cultures and administrators often want to preserve those.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


What the fuck is your point with this? So tired of hearing. Damn, you fight with the 1 - 3% of black students getting in and we really took your Asian snowflakes slot away really? We didn't take your slot, white kids did. If the black kids weren't performing, then I would say, maybe it's a problem. If they are, that means that there are more important things to evaluate and proves intelligence then just grades.


2015 UCLA Fall demographics are 23% Hispanic, 30% white, 37% Asian, and 5% Black.. California demographics on the other hand is 57% white, 13% Asian, 37% Hispanic, and 6% Black. It seems that the Black population is aligned with the state population. The Hispanic enrollment will catch up to the state demographics eventually. The problem is that the white population is well below the state demographics. As a result of the Asians taking UCLA seats from the whites, the whites are bitching about the few seats Blacks and Hispanics earn. It's not 1970, whites are not entitled to every seat in the classroom.


For top national universities such as Berkeley and UCLA, national demographics should be used not regional. Nationally, blacks make up about 12% of the population. Incoming black student population for Berkeley was 2.8% for 2015 and the total black student population for UCLA is 4.0% which are very small compared to 10 to 12 percent for other top schools. This is with unofficial Institutional Affirmative Action at UCs despite the ban in place.


I disagree. Smart students attend school than can either afford or receive substantial financial assistance. Berkeley and UCLC doesn't offer much, if any, aid to out of state students. Those schools are relatively inexpensive for in-state students. California has just under 6% in Black residents. Why would a kid who could receive substantial assistance from Harvard, Stanford, Bates, Williams, etc pay out-of-state tuition to attend UCLA? Such a choice would be beyond stupid.


Uh because they were not offered admission because "race" is not one of the factors?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to see the black lady beating up on white posters. What is sad is that Asian Americans who are most affected by this ruling is forgotten and ignored once again.

Forget Becky with bad grades, Asian Americans with excellent grades, scores, awards, ECs, leadership skills, sport etc. are getting denied admission to top schools due to soft quotas in place at the top universities for Asian Americans . Asian Americans have accomplished academic and non-academic accomplishments despite many of them (or their parents) being immigrants who had to overcome language and cultural obstacles in addition to the same racial discrimination. Blacks are not the only group experiencing discrimination. Asians have been forced into slave labor, sent to internment camps, had property confiscated, lynched, subject to Chinese Exclusion Act etc.

Hopefully, the legal actions against Harvard and UNC by Asian Americans can proceed now the SCOTUS case is over.

Don't forget, wherever Holistic admission system" is used without considering "race", blacks make up extremely small number which is very telling.

For example, TJ uses "Holistic Admission System" and places heavy emphasis on short essays (SIS) and longer essay (some would say to give preference to non-Asians) and the admission's office bends backwards to recruit and admit blacks and Hispanics but their numbers are typically around 1% and 3% respectively and not much better for Berkeley and UCLA for blacks (2-3%) while Hispanics do better (20-25%).


Oh please, yes. Even if we reached the point that the makeup of the student body at one of these colleges was 100% Asian, there would still be some on here complaining that they had higher scores and should have gotten in. Holistic is holistic and can't be reduced to just numbers (even when those numbers include ECs with the appropriate number of awards and level of leadership).

And look at what has happened to TJ. As the make-up of the student body has changed, the school has become more of a stress factory, causing many students not to want to apply and some teachers to leave. Colleges each have their cultures and administrators often want to preserve those.


Many students not want to apply = whites scared to compete with Asian Americans or racist;
Teachers leave = teachers are retiring after 20-30 years of service.
Whites can run from competetion but they cannot hide forever.
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