SCOTUS upholds college Affirmative Action

[Anonymous]

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/education/edlife/lifting-the-veil-on-the-holistic-process-at-the-university-of-california-berkeley.html

The truth on the "holisitc" farce

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/education/edlife/lifting-the-veil-on-the-holistic-process-at-the-university-of-california-berkeley.html

The truth on the "holisitc" farce

:::Yawn:::

I'm looking forward to a "Confessions" article on how the 'elite' applicant is handled: legacy, very wealthy donors or potential donors, children of very connected individuals (politicians, celebrities, royalty), and students from connected boarding schools/elite privates.

And another one on elite athletes with poor academics.

For every minor piece of ethnic/racial social engineering, there are probably 10 admissions based on money and connections and sports.

I am always dismayed how people get up in arms about brown or black folks getting an edge, but not on white rich folks getting even more of an edge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone who thinks URMs don't get huge bumps at ivies is kidding themselves. Further more, admissions spots are fungible so to the poster that says that Asians compete against other Asians and whites only for spots means there is a de facto URM target enrollment quota that schools aim for every year.

The reason why I know URMs get a huge bump is because I posted before how my company asks for standardized test scores and transcripts from UG and MBA a

I'm the poster you referred to. Of course there is a target URM enrollment. There is also a target legacy, sports, merit, etc. If there was no affirmative action, the number of URM's would decrease to about 3% black and 4% Hispanic at most top 20 schools. However, this doesn't mean the number of Asian students would significantly increase to make up the difference. I guarantee that the number of white students would be proportionally higher. I have set on committees where it was clearly stated that no group should be over represented. Everyone in the room knows what that means.

Then you admit there is implicit quotas being adhered to which is illegal even under current affirmative action laws.

This is why Texas and other schools keep refusing to give data to support if their plans are "working" or not because they know if the support their aa plans with empirical data it will run foul of the quota issue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/08/04/education/edlife/lifting-the-veil-on-the-holistic-process-at-the-university-of-california-berkeley.html

The truth on the "holisitc" farce

:::Yawn:::

I'm looking forward to a "Confessions" article on how the 'elite' applicant is handled: legacy, very wealthy donors or potential donors, children of very connected individuals (politicians, celebrities, royalty), and students from connected boarding schools/elite privates.

And another one on elite athletes with poor academics.

For every minor piece of ethnic/racial social engineering, there are probably 10 admissions based on money and connections and sports.

I am always dismayed how people get up in arms about brown or black folks getting an edge, but not on white rich folks getting even more of an edge.

+1. Kills me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks, I feel great! Hmmm...my contribution to my success: Ivy undergrad and law school (with numerous academic honors). Partnership at big law (after working my ass off in a less than hospitable environment) and married to a successful entrepreneur with similar academic credentials. Any AA I have received is my due. Please and thank you.

You couldn't do it w/o AAction?

Who knows? Could this country have been built without my ancestors' stolen labor? Could your parents or grandparents attend good schools if they weren't white?

I didn't create this country, but I'm damned sure turning any lemons I've received into lemonade. And I am unapologetic. Does that upset you?

Damn I love you.

[Anonymous]

This article is remarkable for how clearly it cuts through the entitlement of all the Abby Fishers out there: http://jezebel.com/all-the-greedy-young-abigail-fishers-and-me-1782508801

"That, to Abigail Fisher—because she worked hard and is a nice white person whose parents have always had burnt-orange Longhorn pot holders hanging on the grill in their nice neighborhood with nice schools made possible by nice FHA policies that made possible a life in 2016 in which “diversity” could seem like a value that would hurt white people rather than assuage whatever it is in their soul that makes them this way—is wrong. Some proof that American discrimination is still quite high-functioning is available in the fact that Abigail Fisher went to the Supreme Court with an idea of the concept that centrally applied to her."

....

"I have heard so many Abigails tell me that UT’s policy is reverse racism. I sat across from white girls in oversized T-shirts, white boys in basketball shorts, sweet kids with good hearts and sleep still in their eyes, who told me—either very nicely or very snidely, never anything in between—that it was harder for white people to get into college now than anyone else, because of affirmative action. They said this as their parents wrote me $450 checks to “edit” their essays. They said this to me, the living proof that there is still so much to be compensated for—the minority literally paid to help get them into school."

[Anonymous]

The comments in the Jezebel article also make a point that hadn't occurred to me. Fisher said this:

There were people in my class with lower grades who weren’t in all the activities I was in, who were being accepted into UT, and the only other difference between us was the color of our skin.

However, there were only 5 Black and Latino kids in all of Texas that were admitted to UT that year with lower scores than Fisher. Only 5. Are we to believe that all 5 were from Fisher's high school? Either that's a heck of a coincidence, Fisher's lying, or she only ASSUMED the other kids had lower grades because they were Black or Latino.

[Anonymous]

There are entitled white kids who don't deserve to get into great colleges, and haven't done the work for Acceptence
There are also hundreds of thousands of white kids who have done the work, and will continue on to success in life.

For every Abby, there are 100's of students bringing their A game.
This whole conversation is silly. She is silly.

[Anonymous]

Who knows? Could this country have been built without my ancestors' stolen labor? Could your parents or grandparents attend good schools if they weren't white?

I didn't create this country, but I'm damned sure turning any lemons I've received into lemonade. And I am unapologetic. Does that upset you?

free is good man.

[Anonymous]

bye bye affirmative action. it is definitely getting gutted within 4 years for publics, if not for privates as well.

#MAGA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:bye bye affirmative action. it is definitely getting gutted within 4 years for publics, if not for privates as well.

#MAGA

You and your salivating fangs couldn't wait to restart this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:bye bye affirmative action. it is definitely getting gutted within 4 years for publics, if not for privates as well.

#MAGA

What is the actual mechanism by which you see this happening?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:bye bye affirmative action. it is definitely getting gutted within 4 years for publics, if not for privates as well.

#MAGA

What is the actual mechanism by which you see this happening?

1. scalia is replaced by a conservative

2. One of RBG (83), Breyer (78), or Kennedy (80) dies. Actuarial tables can forecast a probability of that.

3. 2018 map really favors R's in the senate. easy confirmation of another conservative to replace one of the names mentioned in #2 that passed away.

4. with a 6-3 majority, one of the many suits that are brought up against affirmative action will make way to scotus. aa is destroyed.

5. oh and with such a composition, it'll be quite a straight shot to ban it at privates as well. The applicable statute is title vi of the 1964 civil rights act.

Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which bans racial discrimination by schools that receive federal funds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:bye bye affirmative action. it is definitely getting gutted within 4 years for publics, if not for privates as well.

#MAGA

What is the actual mechanism by which you see this happening?

1. scalia is replaced by a conservative

2. One of RBG (83), Breyer (78), or Kennedy (80) dies. Actuarial tables can forecast a probability of that.

3. 2018 map really favors R's in the senate. easy confirmation of another conservative to replace one of the names mentioned in #2 that passed away.

4. with a 6-3 majority, one of the many suits that are brought up against affirmative action will make way to scotus. aa is destroyed.

5. oh and with such a composition, it'll be quite a straight shot to ban it at privates as well. The applicable statute is title vi of the 1964 civil rights act.

Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which bans racial discrimination by schools that receive federal funds.

True. End of the racial discrimination in college admissions is coming.

[Anonymous]

What sad and sorry people you are. God help us as a country when you realize that Trump will never make you "great again." But don't let me interrupt "the south will rise again."